Gambling etiquette

I agree, you fulfilled your side of the agreement if both parties agreed to play 2 sets and only 2 sets. But, at what cost? 1) you gave your customer new information about your improved skill level and it only cost him $40, or 2) you pissed off a customer who may never play you again.

I'm probably in the minority here, but I don't buy into "gambling etiquette". You're gambling, the objective is not to conduct yourself with proper etiquette. The objective is to walk out with more money than you walked in with.

I believe there is an art to gambling (I'm not very artistic though). I think you need to know when to quit whether you are ahead or behind.

When your customer was pissed off and wanting to double the bet, I wonder if you should have fired right back at him with your nose about 2 inches from his nose. Screw this double the bet BS. You want to play more, race to 10, I get 3 on the wire, for dime. Post up punk.

The spot had not been adjusted for your improved skill level, and he was mad (in my opinion you should never gamble when in an emotional state of mind). Sounds like you had him bent over a stump, brother. Get his nose wide open.

Just a few thoughts

Steven
 
"a fool and his money is soon parted" you not have to keep playing but you should of,HAHAHAHA,,

BR
Kenny
 
Doubling up

Shaky1 said:
I agree! If You lost it at 20 a set, you are going to have to win it back at 20 a set. :)
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I learned the hard way on doubling up. A few guys that quit when they get back even. So now it's win it back the way you lost it. Some people don't want to work hard to get it back.
 
On the subject of doubling up when I'm ahead and a little nervous about it I like to say.

"Sorry but you dug this hole with a shovel and I'm not letting you fill it in with a back hoe. Shall we continue or are you done?"

That always seems to get the point across without further discussion. If they're sandbagging you they will usually show their speed once they know you're not going to be easy money just to get even at which time I can quit if I smell a skunk. If I know the player and am not nervous about it then what the hell, my back hoe can dig faster than a shovel too.

JC
 
The answer depends on your motivation for gambling.

If your goal is to make money, and this guy is a potential source of future money, then it might be worth risking 40 for a potential payoff down the road. Not to mention the odds are good you will win this third set and walk home with twice as much cash.

If your goal is to just play pool and you need to play for something just to avoid being bored, then it probably doesn't matter much if you piss him off and he never comes back, there's usually some other fish around who can keep you entertained.
 
Game

You did the right thing, especially since you had a tournament the next day.
But me, I usually take the double up, and sometimes I double them back, that makes them stop and think, or stutter a little ... lol
 
randallt6 said:
What's the etiquette here. I agreed to play 2 sets with a guy. We played and I won both sets. Only 20 a set. Anyways after he wants to go double or nothing. I say no and he gets all mad... What's the etiquette here. Am I bad action for saying no to double or nothing.?
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there is a proper response for some one who wants to double up.

first of all understand he is chasing his $$$ or thinks he has you beat so he aint wrong to ask.

what you say to cool the situation and not piss him off(his nose is open) is this(with a smile):

"I'll let you out the way you got in.....same bet" and say it with conviction and play pool.


lesson is over,

fatboy Inc.
 
randallt6 said:
What's the etiquette here. I agreed to play 2 sets with a guy. We played and I won both sets. Only 20 a set. Anyways after he wants to go double or nothing. I say no and he gets all mad... What's the etiquette here. Am I bad action for saying no to double or nothing.?
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No the guy is an Ass Hat, and as far as bad action go's he is the bad action not you.
 
You agreed to 2 sets at 20, you played two. what are you supposed to do? Keep doubling up till he gets even??next time if he wants to start at 40, do that.
 
This is gonna be long-winded :wink:.

I'm 100% with Fatboy here,but in my case I go a step further,so I'll explain this later on.

I've been in this same situation a few times,for different amounts,for various reasons,with positive,neutral,and negative results.

In all cases with me dealing with small money it wasn't posted because it was always with someone I was familiar with.

In your case,you never said if the money was posted,so I don't know about that.

You did the right thing I believe by not allowing the game to change,but the ONLY time to change the game is if one of 2 things happens.

You've won,and you've got what was posted in your pocket,or if he lost and paid you what he owed.

In this scenario,you're in a much "safer" position to make a decision about whether to stick to your guns and move on OR put that money back into play,plus more depending on HOW he asks you to pump the bet,or for HOW MUCH he asks you to step it up.

The reason I say it's safer to make the decision in this scenario is if he's paid you or you have taken the cash down,is IF you decide to re-up the same amount or double that amount,is now you can ask him to post again or make him prove he has the cash on him,and it won't look like you're being a dick .

By doing this,you can effectively make him show you his cards,because I've learned a few things,some the hard way,from the situations I've encountered.

One is that in all but a couple of mine,both of those with the same guy,the player that lost and asked me to "double or nothing" is on a short bankroll and is just taking a chance to get back even or make a little.

OR,he's flat busted,and shooting air at you hoping you take the bait. Every time I agreed to double up and didn't have the money in hand before the next game or set,something changed in one of these ways.

His game steps up. Taking you from one step forward,then one or 2,perhaps more steps back.

He gets lucky and gets back even and quits or takes part of mine.

I play bad and he wins,back to even or up for him.

I catch a bad break and lose,same end result,now we're even or I'm down.

If you've got the cheese from earlier,and jacking the bet will still cover the amount for next game/set,if you ask him to post or prove he can cover it,you know you're not gonna get stiffed unless he's just runs off or tries to not pay off. You're only out of pocket what you originally set anyway if the set was a big enough jump,like if he asked you to go from 20 a set with your limit at 2 sets to a bet for the next set of 80 or 50 to 100.

If he agrees to post or show cash,now you're on a free roll,or only going to lose what you had originally set in your mind before the first game or set started anyway.

If he doesn't agree to flash cash or post it,you just outed him as bogus.

So,if you have what used to be his money,and he's throwing perhaps even more at you and know you can and will get paid,it's a matter of judgement and "feel" then.

Your guy asked you to double up and you said no,he got mad. That tells me he's mad at himself for making a bad game,and now frustrated because you were smart enough to not fall into what can be a trap,and he's taking it out on you.

He could also be embarrassed that he tried to pull a Scooter Special and throw air at ya,and got busted. If that happens,make sure EVERYONE knows.

Every time I've doubled the bet and either had money posted or got paid in full,it's been profitable,and helpful as far as the game itself went,and at times helpful in the long run. Tommy D.
 
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