German billiards champ tests positive

BVal said:
... then go be a professional drug user instead.

They had a double elimination drug-users tournament here in the Seattle area not too long ago. Green fees were a bit stiff... but considering what you got to sample, they really weren't that bad. Some just dropped out when they got to the B side... guess they had enough for the night.
 
Oh Lord!

bigskyjake said:
" Dude.... weed isn't a real drug............ HAVE YOU EVER SUCKED DICK FOR COKE?" bigskyjake - azbilliards :D :D


What????????:)
 
TheNewSharkster said:
What about nicotine or alcohol? They are both drugs. I think you probably meant illegal drugs but I thought I would play a bit of devil advocate :)
ya think :):)
 
BVal said:
What????????:)


hahahaha, you bastard. I wouldn't smoke pole for nose candy, if you put a BK triple stacker and a large cherry icee in front of me I just might........wait.......nope still wouldn't
 
bigskyjake said:
hahahaha, you bastard. I wouldn't smoke pole for nose candy, if you put a BK triple stacker and a large cherry icee in front of me I just might........wait.......nope still wouldn't
LOL you crack me up.

no pun inteneded.

BVal
 
I was playing a tourney once and had a damn dogfight with my opponent. I lose, hill-hill. Guy plays jam-up safe, I tie 2 balls up and he makes a couple, then banks a ball from the end rail into the side pocket and breaks the cluster I made to get out. tells me afterwards he is 'trippin my balls off, man. Just tell Nick (;) ) you won. I gotta get out of here'.:eek:

My pee is clean!!
 
Drug testing would mean the end of pool. Who wants to play pool with completely pure blood?LOL :D

I plaid a set yesterday with one of the greatest hangovers of my life.:D
 
Just think of the Fringe benefits...

BVal said:
...than go be a professional drug user instead. JMHO.

BVal

I already am. The pay is not so great, but I'm my own boss and I have my weekends off.
:)
 
And today the news about the German player is in the Norwegian biggest newspapers aswell... Atleast international pool is getting attention again :D
 
A long time ago, at a pool room, known well for action, there was a restroom in the back. We all called it the "airport". Players would go in low and come out high.
 
I would like to know what kind of unfair advantage taking any type of drug could give a pool player.

... Anyone?
 
AZE said:
I would like to know what kind of unfair advantage taking any type of drug could give a pool player.

... Anyone?

Depends on the drug used, but the advantages could be more self-confidence, pressure decline, easy focusing, tired feeling decline.
Nevertheless most of the drugs don't give any kind of advantage for playing (for example cannabis), while the biggest disadvantage is precoce death.
 
AZE said:
I would like to know what kind of unfair advantage taking any type of drug could give a pool player.

... Anyone?

I have no experience with any drugs (well, I do drink a beer some times) but for me I could imagine that what-ever-substance-named-something could calm you down and don't get nervous before a tourney.. Stay-ability I guess is another.

I find it interesting to reed some of the comments here. It might be that I have the wrong impression but it seems like the view on drugs is "milder" in some parts of the world.... Drug testing would be the end of billiards ???? Is everybody stone over there or using what ever during tournaments?

Had me wondering when I hear people are slamming they're head in to the table having blood splashing around or when some one is on the edge and having a verbal explosion :confused:

It reminded me about the joke Monty Pyton made some years ago: The female football match team X against Germany... The German "ladies" where dressed up bodybuilders with mustaches he he he. Some bad effects he he.

N
 
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The only drug I was aware of that "helped" pool players, were "Uppers" or Amphetamines. In the old days, many hustlers used this stuff on a regular basis. I don't know how prevalent it's usage is today.

On uppers, you see better, feel stronger, and feel like you'll never miss a ball. A good player might not miss for hours on this shit. I mean you're totally zeroed in and fully focused on every shot. You see everything so clearly! And you can play a long, long time! When you finally come down, it is a hard crash. I imagine players here in the USA are still using them to a certain extent, especially the road men and full time gamblers.

Did I ever use them? Yes, once or twice. I used a little "white cross" a couple of times to stay awake when playing a long session. I don't even know for sure what they are, but they were around back then. I also tried some prescription "uppers", that my dad (a doctor) got for me. They were "black beauties", as Jimmy Reid liked to call them. I just didn't care for the after effects and didn't like the feeling of playing high, so I gave them up after a couple of experiments. I will say this, they worked! I could definitely play strong on them.

I remember guys used to gobble this stuff like candy. Ultimately they paid a price for using it. Like all drugs, it will take a toil on your body.

I remember the match where Frank Tullos beat Eddie Burton. They played all night. Frank played "on the natch" and Eddie was using every stimulant known to man. In the end Frank got there when Eddie began to come down from the pills. That night left an impression on me.
 
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jay helfert said:
The only drug I was aware of that "helped" pool players, were "Uppers" or Amphetamines. In the old days, many hustlers used this stuff on a regular basis. I don't know how prevalent it's usage is today.

On uppers, you see better, feel stronger, and feel like you'll never miss a ball. A good player might not miss for hours on this shit. I mean you're totally zeroed in and fully focused on every shot. You see everything so clearly! And you can play a long, long time! When you finally come down, it is a hard crash. I imagine players here in the USA are still using them to a certain extent, especially the road men and full time gamblers.

Did I ever use them? Yes, once or twice. I used a little "white cross" a couple of times to stay awake when playing a long session. I don't even know for sure what they are, but they were around back then. I also tried some prescription "uppers", that my dad (a doctor) got for me. They were "black beauties", as Jimmy Reid liked to call them. I just didn't care for the after effects and didn't like the feeling of playing high, so I gave them up after a couple of experiments. I will say this, they worked! I could definitely play strong on them.

I remember guys used to gobble this stuff like candy. Ultimately they paid a price for using it. Like all drugs, it will take a toil on your body.

I remember the match where Frank Tullos beat Eddie Burton. They played all night. Frank played "on the natch" and Eddie was using every stimulant known to man. In the end Frank got there when Eddie began to come down from the pills. That night left an impression on me.

Wow, that was a story I would remember. I was not aware about these issues in pool.

I have seen old clips from the Irish Snooker player Alex Higgins where he showed up with a bow tie and looked fresh. After the first frame he throw the bow tie and at the end of the match he could hardly speak if I don't remember wrong.

Correct me our English colleagues but I think he was a "thirsty" player if I'm not mistaking?
Edit:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Higgins

If I was playing against a drugged opponent I would feel horrible and I think I would leave the match and loose on purpose. It would for sure no feel right...

Correct me if I'm wrong and stepping on all the US hearts, but I have a impression that this is pretty common in the US?
Football players, base ball, sprinters and so on have at lest been exposed in media over here having used illegal substances :confused:

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TheNewSharkster said:
I wasn't even aware that they had banned substances in billiards. Very interesting to see something like this hit national news.

Why worry about the national mainstream media when you can reach the AZ?;)
 
Delay for nosebleed at 2007 derby

In the usa we are always trying to accomodate the players. In the banks at the derby, there was a woman who won by default(they gave the guy at least 1 hr delay in the match.) nosebleed wouldn't stop. what causes that? its a well known fact our military has a couple enhancing drugs. mark
 
AZE said:
I would like to know what kind of unfair advantage taking any type of drug could give a pool player.

... Anyone?


if i understand your question correctly, What drug could a player use to play better? there is one answere, i have seen first hand. I have NEVER done it, i would admit to it if it were true but I have seen it amny times in the 80's. One word "Coke".

I knew a player who I wont name in 88 who when he wasnt on blow he was a weak A player when he wasnt coked up, when he was coked up he was almost a champion. He was the most effected player I ever saw doing blow, but that drug seemed to make everyone who used it play better, the trick to beating them is simple just let them burnout or run out of coke and they they fall apart, also slow playing them drives them crazy.

Back in the 80's it was common and wide spread in the pool rooms I went to, I wont say who, where etc. But it was just part of the lifestyle-playing pool full time. I made the decision earily in life that I wouldnt ever do drugs, i have never smoked weed or anything, never did drugs until my back got so bad I couldnt help it, and the day I feel ok the drugs are gone, infact pain pills hurt my game.


Back to coke, from my studying the drug it puts the user in a state of heightened sense of awareness, more self confidence which leads to being fearless in pool. Look at Scarface at the end of the movie-perhaps over the top but none the less thats what coke does to pool players, personally I wouldnt o it if it made me play like SVB. Bad stuff.
 
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Hmm.

I get more and more blown away by you're stories. Maybe some of my pool idols was in that stage earlier and I'm being naive :(

Our sport is for sure depending a lot of what's above our shoulders. Messing around with it doing chemicals sounds for me like a short sighted solution...

If you can't handle it without them, then find something else to do is my opinion.

I remember in my younger day's when I was preparing my self for a tourney (age 15-16). I was so focused on the next days tournament that I was dreaming about how the balls was suppose to go the night in front.
Awakey awakey at 07:00 fresh as a fish I had my best tournaments ever. Players around in the pool hall and my opponent was just shadows which I did not even bother to notice.
I guess I in one way or another had put my self in a meditation state which helped me a lot, simply my imagining how I was supposed to do my playing and act on this and that situation...

The point by the story is that there must be other way's to get in to which ever state the doped players are in, by using common sense and techniques which top athletes apply on a regular basis (and then I mean not drugs).

Modern Snooker players has as far I have seen, a "sports coach " which peps them up in every tea break and make them focus on the right things during play.
I have not seen this in Pool, but it must be a much healthier solution :D

N
 
I think coke could give someone an advantage. The thing is it only stays in your system 24-48 hours so anybody on it can hide it from a drug test.
 
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