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seanandnik

seanandnik

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this may be a pointless question, but I have always wondered what gina cues logo was, is it a weird "G" of some sort ? maybe something to do with his initials, EG ? it looks like a lowercase g and the digit 2, am i missing something or overthinking it ?
 
seanandnik said:
this may be a pointless question, but I have always wondered what gina cues logo was, is it a weird "G" of some sort ? maybe something to do with his initials, EG ? it looks like a lowercase g and the digit 2, am i missing something or overthinking it ?
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I believe Gina is the name of his daughter.

When I stare at the logo for a bit it looks like an exotic sort of G at a slant.
 
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No

I am not asking where the name Gina came from, but what is his logo ? A g ? It looks like there is more to it than that
 
Sweet brand

It's a G and a Q...(For Gina his daughter)....Real classy if you ask me.......Ray.......Happy New Year All!
 
It always reminded me of Ashley Forge knives. Hugh Bartrug named his forge after his granddaughter Ashley. I was honored to have known him.
 
Ginacue is most definitely named after his daughter.

I asked Ernie about his logo when I was in his shop. It is "G2". The "G" of course stands for Gina and the "2" (version 2 if you will) has been used since he came back to cue making in the 80's after his first retirement.
 
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DogsPlayingPool said:
Ginacue is most definitely named after his daughter.

I asked Ernie about his logo when I was in his shop. It is "G2". The "G" of course stands for Gina and the "2" (version 2 if you will) has been used since he came back to cue making in the 80's after his first retirement.
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My understanding also.
 
Mr Gutierrez 1st cue was completed and daughter was born just six days apart. So he chose to name his company after his daughter, Gina. His cues are identified by the stylized "GC"
 
According to the Blue Book of Pool Cues, 3rd Edition:

"Ginacues from the 1990s to present are identified by the stylizes "GC" which appears on the butt cap. Cues of the 1960s and 1970s were usually marked "Ginacue" on a ring just below the wrap. The logos of the 1960s era cues often yellowed since they were hand-scrolled on phenolic material cut from cue balls. In 1970, block lettering on Delrin became the norm."​

Perhaps the author got it a bit wrong?
 
AtLarge said:
According to the Blue Book of Pool Cues, 3rd Edition:

"Ginacues from the 1990s to present are identified by the stylizes "GC" which appears on the butt cap. Cues of the 1960s and 1970s were usually marked "Ginacue" on a ring just below the wrap. The logos of the 1960s era cues often yellowed since they were hand-scrolled on phenolic material cut from cue balls. In 1970, block lettering on Delrin became the norm."​

Perhaps the author got it a bit wrong?
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That is a possibility. I love the Blue book but I note another uncertain statement in the Gina section. The BB suggests that Ernie went to the block lettering in his old "Ginacue" logo in 1970. This is not correct. I am the original owner of a domino Gina with the block lettered logo. Because I am the original owner of the cue I know when I bought it and it was way before 1970. Ernie personally has certified the cue as one of the first 100 cues he has produced, confirmed by the stainless steel insert in the shaft joint and has stated the build date as 1963-64. According to Ernie, when he started making cues he ordered 100 SS inserts and when these were gone he couldn't get any more so he went to brass and has used brass ever since.

Now that I think about it Ernie may have said there was a G,C, and 2 in the logo, but I'm still pretty sure there is a "2". I seem to recall asking Ernie if the "2" was a stylized script "Q" and he said no, it's a "2".

I'll PM Kevin to see if he can chime in. If anyone will know about the logo, it's him.
 
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DogsPlayingPool said:
That is a possibility. I love the Blue book but I note another uncertain statement in the Gina section. ...
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That Blue Book portion I quoted has words like "usually" and "norm" in it, so perhaps Ernie did vary it a bit from time to time.

The more I look at the "1990s to present" logo, the more it does look like a lower-case "g" on the left with a "2" on the right but overlapping the "g."

And you bought a new Ginacue in '63/'64? You must be OLD!:)
 
LOL

I just got off the phone with Ernie. He is back from vacation and claims to have the design for his 50th Anniversary Edition Cues sketched out in his head. He said he had to finish the design to know how much gold to order, so get out your checkbooks kids.

I always thought there was a "C" in there for Caesar, his "real" fist name, but Ernie informs he (one of his favorite things to do) that I am wrong (again!).

"G" for Gina, his daughter.
"E" for Ernie, his first name in an American way (Ernie is Colombian)
"2" for his second coming as a cue maker.

As far as the decoding of his logos for his older style cues as delineated in the BlueBook, it is flawed and wrong.

Thanks

Kevin
 
AtLarge said:
That Blue Book portion I quoted has words like "usually" and "norm" in it, so perhaps Ernie did vary it a bit from time to time.

Yeah, that's why I also qualified my statement with the use of the terms "suggests that" and "seems to say", LOL


The more I look at the "1990s to present" logo, the more it does look like a lower-case "g" on the left with a "2" on the right but overlapping the "g."

And you bought a new Ginacue in '63/'64? You must be OLD!:)
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Guilty as charged, but in my defense I was just a kid. I wasn't old enough to drive and had to take like three busses to get to his house. At the time he was working out of his garage.

But yes, I'm getting to that point where I can blame my misses on my eye sight. ;)
 
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kvinbrwr said:
LOL

I just got off the phone with Ernie. He is back from vacation and claims to have the design for his 50th Anniversary Edition Cues sketched out in his head. He said he had to finish the design to know how much gold to order, so get out your checkbooks kids.

I always thought there was a "C" in there for Caesar, his "real" fist name, but Ernie informs he (one of his favorite things to do) that I am wrong (again!).

"G" for Gina, his daughter.
"E" for Ernie, his first name in an American way (Ernie is Colombian)
"2" for his second coming as a cue maker.

As far as the decoding of his logos for his older style cues as delineated in the BlueBook, it is flawed and wrong.

Thanks

Kevin
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Thanks Kevin, ;). Now that I read that I do recall it was an "E" and not a "C". I think Cornerman probably had it right in a thread I started on this very subject a while ago:

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The E is laying on it's side.
 
DogsPlayingPool said:
Thanks Kevin, ;). Now that I read that I do recall it was an "E" and not a "C". I think Cornerman probably had it right in a thread I started on this very subject a while ago:

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The E is laying on it's side.
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Mitchell

Yup, akimbo E. Its a cool logo, I like his old cues quite a bit so I like seeing those old logos very much, but the new one is cool, especially when presented in a medallion.

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Ernie has done a great job of product branding, right from the beginning, its as if when he was just starting out, he could envision himself as the icon he is now. Quite the interesting fella.

Thanks again

Kevin
 
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Mitchell

Yup, akimbo E. Its a cool logo, I like his old cues quite a bit so I like seeing those old logos very much, but the new one is cool, especially when presented in a medallion.


Ernie has done a great job of product branding, right from the beginning, its as if when he was just starting out, he could envision himself as the icon he is now. Quite the interesting fella.

Thanks again

Kevin
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I've a question about the medallion logo. Is that an upgrade available on any cue (like an ivory joint or leather wrap) or is that something only Ernie determines will go on a cue? I've seen it on cues that aren't necessarily 1/1's but only on cues that at least have significant upgrades in materials, like a lot ivory or snake wood instead of ebony, even though the cue may have been based on a catalog model.
 
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