Would it be too much to ask for you two to stop hijacking threads to post your insistent, idiotic back-and-forth banter? Start your own thread and bash each other back and forth all day to your heart's content. That way those of us that don't want to read it can just ignore the thread, rather than sifting through threads of stuff that we do want to read about filled with the same BS over and over again.
I don't know what Marks problem is, don't really care, but he's going to attack me when ever he feels the need to do so, I can't help that.
Bottom line is, when considering buying any kind of a GC, consider first, does it have, or has it in the past had commercial use. Reaon being, if it has then it's more than likely had the cloth changed on it so many times the cloth relief stapling area has been chewed up to where it won't really hold staples any longer. Along with this kind of tearout, the ends of the rails are pretty much going to be nailed out as well, because of mechanic's not using the machine screws to mount the pockets, or they were replaced with cheap pockets that didn't screw in to mount them.
With todays push for tighter pockets, the cushions even if in good condition are going to have to be replaced with longer cushions.
So, this is what I've been trying to get out as a point before I was jumped on.
When thinking about buying a GC, don't just look at the cost of buying the table as wow, I can pick up a GC1 for a steal at $1,500...then I can have the table I've always wanted....RIGHT?
Well, consider the cost of moving that table into your location and add that into the purchase price also.
Now, lets say you went ahead and paid someone to set your NEW table up, and in the process of that....you asked something about new cushions...or the mechanic told you that you really should replace the cushions on your NEW pool table....so, OK...you go along with that idea and spend MORE money to fix your NEW pool table up....RIGHT? And while you're at it....throw in some new Simonis 860 Tour Blue Cloth....added to that bill for your NEW pool table.
Well, down the road a little bit, you start to notice how your table is playing...and it don't play like it did when you first bought it...with your new cushions....new cloth....double shimmed pockets....the whole works....on your NEW pool table.
Your friends that come over to play, start telling you that your NEW pool table don't play all that good, so they don't really want to play on it any more....now that the NEW has worn off.
So, more time goes buy....then you've read and heard about some of the work that Mark and I, and a few other table mechanic's have done to some of the older GC's, making them play way better than when they were built new....I mean like 10X's better...so.......
Then you start looking into the cost of fixing up that NEW GC1 or 2, or 3 that you just bought...a year or two ago, and you decide to either send your rails off to Mark, or call me to come by and rebuild your rails....to make it play that 10X's better than new that you've heard so much about....so, now add in at LEAST another $1,500...to $2,000 to that first expense you laid out to buy your NEW to you....used GC1 or 1 or 3...and along the way, throw in how much you paid someone else to work on your pool table that had NO IDEA what they were doing....because that also was money spent on your NEW to you....worn out old GC1...or 2...or 3 because you thought it was a steal at the price you picked it up for...right?
And lets not forget the amount of money you're going to spend paying someone else to work on your table first just to save a few dollars because the work Mark and I do is way more than you'd planned on spending on that NEW to you....worn out old GC1...or 2...or 3....so add in that cost as well.
So, by the time you actually get that NEW to you GC playing just the way you dreamed it could play....you've sunk in about $4,000 to $5,000 on a NEW to you....worn out, over priced when you bought it....OLD GC1..or 2...or 3.
Now, if you already OWN your GC...it's already sitting there in your house, well....now it's like, OK....how much to make it play like better than new???
OK, well that'll be about $1,500...out the door, give or take a few dollars more depending on any additional repairs needed to fix the table up right.
Can you get this type of work done cheaper....sure, but is it going to turn out perfect when it's done...well, that all depends on who you start with....and not who you end up with in the end.
Would't it be great if the first table mechanic you hired, was also the last because everthing was done right the first time:thumbup:
Glen
