GOMEZ vs PEACH part 2 ?

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http://www.billiardphilippines.com/v3/modules/news/article.php?storyid=117

I wonder if this will push through. According to the last part of this article, the Gomez camp is pushing for a rematch to the tune of 6 million pesos. How much is that in US dollars? What are your thoughts?




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DUMAGUETE CITY---THE WORLD POOL CHAMPIONSHIPS will remain in Philippines for three straight years. However, Manila billiard fanatics needed to raise some money to fly to Cebu to watch the biggest 9-ball event in planet which features 128 top players of the world from some 50 countries will be coming to proclaimed 2008 World 9-Ball Champion.

Cebu, much known the Queen City of South already stage a dozen international sports events like Chess, Boxing, Triathlon, Judo, Arnis among other. In early report, hosting the WPC needed to raise at least P60 to P75-million.

"Bago mag finals ng WPC nagpakain sa amin si Pagcor chief (Efraim Genuino) at sinigurong ang World Pool Championships dito pa din sa Pilipinas gaganapin next year pero sa Cebu hindi sa Manila," Ronato Alcano, the 2006 Philippines WPC Champion referring the meeting with PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Efraim Genuino along with 1999 Cardiff WPC Champion Efren "Bata" Reyes before the titular showdown between upcoming Roberto Gomez and Englishman Daryl Peach which the latter's take home the top prize of $100,000 plus broke the Asian Domination in WPC since 2004.

"Para hindi na gumastos pa ang gobyerno natin, manager o mga players na dadayo pa sa ibang bansa para maglaro ng WPC," added Alcano, who use the controversial soft-break method to beat Souquet for the 2006 crown.

In a separate interview, Morry, a Public Relation Officer (PRO) of Indonesian Pool Federation was disappointed that WPC suppose to be in Bali, Indonesia for two straight years (2008-09) but didn't materialize because of financial problems.

"Pool sport is not popular than Badminton and Soccer in my country unlike the Philippines," said Morry, organizer the annual Bali International 9-Ball Open and own a pool haus in Jakarta.

"We try to find sponsor, however the biggest sponsor so far is cigarette but cigarette can sponsor but only for national tournament or if we are the organizer of WPC, unfortunately it's the Matchroom Sports of United Kingdom own the rights to organize the WPC," said Morry.

After the Philippines got the signal to host the WPC for three straight years (last year is optional), the Indonesian Pool Federation also negotiate Matchroom Sports for the staging in Indonesia from 2008-09.

"Everything is ready, however our governments not have enough funds to sponsor WPC, all the funds gave and allotted already to the Thailand Southeast Asian Games," she added.

"A possible co-sponsor maybe a beer but it should be our local TV will feed the blow by blow account of the WPC," said Morry, who fly to the Philippines to watch the WPC and Negros Oriental International 9-Ball before going back to her country on Tuesday.

Bintang, a local beer brand selling only in Indonesia want a local TV channel to shown the billiard event. Guinness, an Irish stout beer also signified to sponsor the WPC event not to mention the San Miguel Beer.

According to Morry, Macau and Malaysia also signified their intention to host the WPC event.

Meanwhile, Gomez' camp want a possible rematch to Peach who dismantle him in the WPC finals, one of the world 9-ball championships where both player lot of error and mistakes. The promoter is eyeing at least total of P6-million to stage the said event.
 
The Beginner said:
I think that's around $140,000
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If there were a rematch, I would not bet against Gomez.

Without the pressure of the WPC tournament squarely on his shoulders, his talent will come to the top and he will be the victor over PEACH who is a true champion. Gomez simply has more natural talent, IMHO. But natural talent doesn't always make a winner.
JoeyA
 
Alot of people were saying that Gomez lost because of the table being switched and he couldn't use the soft break... But i believe it was because of the tremendous pressure he was under due to the fact that he was the last hope of the locals and he knew it....

he folded pretty badly.... But I think if they played again Gomez would win fairly easily in a very long match.....
But I also believe Bustamante would as well, or SVB...

Peach was not under near as much pressure in the finals, and he was extremely confident after the Bustamante match...
 
San Miguel- Nice Move - Good Beer.

f210 said:
http://www.billiardphilippines.com/v3/modules/news/article.php?storyid=117

I wonder if this will push through. According to the last part of this article, the Gomez camp is pushing for a rematch to the tune of 6 million pesos. How much is that in US dollars? What are your thoughts?




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DUMAGUETE CITY---THE WORLD POOL CHAMPIONSHIPS will remain in Philippines for three straight years. However, Manila billiard fanatics needed to raise some money to fly to Cebu to watch the biggest 9-ball event in planet which features 128 top players of the world from some 50 countries will be coming to proclaimed 2008 World 9-Ball Champion.

Cebu, much known the Queen City of South already stage a dozen international sports events like Chess, Boxing, Triathlon, Judo, Arnis among other. In early report, hosting the WPC needed to raise at least P60 to P75-million.

"Bago mag finals ng WPC nagpakain sa amin si Pagcor chief (Efraim Genuino) at sinigurong ang World Pool Championships dito pa din sa Pilipinas gaganapin next year pero sa Cebu hindi sa Manila," Ronato Alcano, the 2006 Philippines WPC Champion referring the meeting with PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Efraim Genuino along with 1999 Cardiff WPC Champion Efren "Bata" Reyes before the titular showdown between upcoming Roberto Gomez and Englishman Daryl Peach which the latter's take home the top prize of $100,000 plus broke the Asian Domination in WPC since 2004.

"Para hindi na gumastos pa ang gobyerno natin, manager o mga players na dadayo pa sa ibang bansa para maglaro ng WPC," added Alcano, who use the controversial soft-break method to beat Souquet for the 2006 crown.

In a separate interview, Morry, a Public Relation Officer (PRO) of Indonesian Pool Federation was disappointed that WPC suppose to be in Bali, Indonesia for two straight years (2008-09) but didn't materialize because of financial problems.

"Pool sport is not popular than Badminton and Soccer in my country unlike the Philippines," said Morry, organizer the annual Bali International 9-Ball Open and own a pool haus in Jakarta.

"We try to find sponsor, however the biggest sponsor so far is cigarette but cigarette can sponsor but only for national tournament or if we are the organizer of WPC, unfortunately it's the Matchroom Sports of United Kingdom own the rights to organize the WPC," said Morry.

After the Philippines got the signal to host the WPC for three straight years (last year is optional), the Indonesian Pool Federation also negotiate Matchroom Sports for the staging in Indonesia from 2008-09.

"Everything is ready, however our governments not have enough funds to sponsor WPC, all the funds gave and allotted already to the Thailand Southeast Asian Games," she added.

"A possible co-sponsor maybe a beer but it should be our local TV will feed the blow by blow account of the WPC," said Morry, who fly to the Philippines to watch the WPC and Negros Oriental International 9-Ball before going back to her country on Tuesday.

Bintang, a local beer brand selling only in Indonesia want a local TV channel to shown the billiard event. Guinness, an Irish stout beer also signified to sponsor the WPC event not to mention the San Miguel Beer.

According to Morry, Macau and Malaysia also signified their intention to host the WPC event.

Meanwhile, Gomez' camp want a possible rematch to Peach who dismantle him in the WPC finals, one of the world 9-ball championships where both player lot of error and mistakes. The promoter is eyeing at least total of P6-million to stage the said event.
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What I want to know is whose going to put up the P6-million? Is this ONLY Gomez's camp?

And is it winner take all?

Ahead set or long set. Surely he isn't stupid enough to risk $140,000.00 of his own money. Maybe the Philippines has finally got the TV advertising dollars pumping, like we need to get rolling.

Go San Miguel.
JoeyA
 
I think Peach would beat him again, even in a long match, unless equipment permitting a gimmick soft break is used. I feel that the soft break enabled Gomez to get by in some matches despite a moves game that's not yet sufficiently refined. Gomez is a greater raw talent and has a bigger upside tan Darryl, but Peach is the more refined player at this point in time.
 
sjm said:
I think Peach would beat him again, even in a long match, unless equipment permitting a gimmick soft break is used. I feel that the soft break enabled Gomez to get by in some matches despite a moves game that's not yet sufficiently refined. Gomez is a greater raw talent and has a bigger upside tan Darryl, but Peach is the more refined player at this point in time.
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The soft break had nothing to do with it... he was only on that table 2 times in the whole tourney
 
sjm said:
I think Peach would beat him again, even in a long match, unless equipment permitting a gimmick soft break is used. I feel that the soft break enabled Gomez to get by in some matches despite a moves game that's not yet sufficiently refined. Gomez is a greater raw talent and has a bigger upside tan Darryl, but Peach is the more refined player at this point in time.
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Gomez was never really in trouble before the finals. He was beating his opponents by comfortable margins since the start of the round of 64. The closest they ever got was 11 to 4. And yes, he was only in the tv table, the only table where the soft break worked, twice in the tournament. On the other hand, Peach had more difficulty disposing of his opponents. He was also beaten once in the elimination round unlike Gomez who won all his games prior to the finals.

IMHO, it was only nerves and pressure that did Gomez in. In a long match, I feel that Roberto Gomez has the skills to win. I hope this rematch happens soon.
 
f210 said:
Gomez was never really in trouble before the finals. He was beating his opponents by comfortable margins since the start of the round of 64. The closest they ever got was 11 to 4. And yes, he was only in the tv table, the only table where the soft break worked, twice in the tournament. On the other hand, Peach had more difficulty disposing of his opponents. He was also beaten once in the elimination round unlike Gomez who won all his games prior to the finals.

IMHO, it was only nerves and pressure that did Gomez in. In a long match, I feel that Roberto Gomez has the skills to win. I hope this rematch happens soon.
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I watched a few of Gomez's matches and I just felt that the final was the only one in which he was asked to rely heavily on his tactical arsenal. That's why I feel he loses again in a tactically oriented match if it plays out that way again. Just one man's view.

Yes, it would make for great viewing. Sopcast, are you listening?
 
sjm said:
I watched a few of Gomez's matches and I just felt that the final was the only one in which he was asked to rely heavily on his tactical arsenal. That's why I feel he loses again in a tactically oriented match if it plays out that way again. Just one man's view.

Yes, it would make for great viewing. Sopcast, are you listening?
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If he breaks and runs out, why would he need to worry about safeties and kicking?
Which i'm sure he does well enough under normal conditions
 
Gomez Vs Peach Part 2?

I thnk Gomez and his camp should quit whinning. Gomez got beat because he played bad, very bad. I think his camp wanting to bet 140k is in poor taste. Peach played only a little better than Gomez and won because of it. Let Peach have his moment, after all he won.

I think most everyone agrees that the finals were poorly played and the reasons don't matter.
 
TWOFORPOOL said:
I thnk Gomez and his camp should quit whinning. Gomez got beat because he played bad, very bad. I think his camp wanting to bet 140k is in poor taste. Peach played only a little better than Gomez and won because of it. Let Peach have his moment, after all he won.

I think most everyone agrees that the finals were poorly played and the reasons don't matter.
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thats correct!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
TWOFORPOOL said:
I thnk Gomez and his camp should quit whinning. Gomez got beat because he played bad, very bad. I think his camp wanting to bet 140k is in poor taste. Peach played only a little better than Gomez and won because of it. Let Peach have his moment, after all he won.

I think most everyone agrees that the finals were poorly played and the reasons don't matter.
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The money was for the staging of the Gomez/Peach rematch, and not for betting purposes.
They were probably just striking while the iron is hot. These two makes good pool TV, and any
moolah being pump in to envigorate pool in general is good...
 
This would be like Tito Trinidad vs Oscar de la Hoya rematch.
Interesting but not that interesting.
 
If I were Peach, I would not respond to a challenge like that. As if the world pool champion has anything to prove to anyone...
 
sjm said:
I watched a few of Gomez's matches and I just felt that the final was the only one in which he was asked to rely heavily on his tactical arsenal. That's why I feel he loses again in a tactically oriented match if it plays out that way again. Just one man's view.

Yes, it would make for great viewing. Sopcast, are you listening?
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I STRONGLY disagree with you SJM, maybe for the first time. I had the pleasure of watching all of Gomez matches, except the final.

He beat Niels Feijen comfortably 9 - 6 without the soft-break, and won 9 - 3 in the next without the softbreak. Then he beat Karl Boyes 11 - 4 without the softbreak.

The reason Daryl Peach won, IMO, was because of the enourmous pressure on Gomez in the final. The same pressure the audience put on Efren Reyes, and made Efren look like an amateur in the match against Konstantin Stepanov. 500 crazy Filipinos watching and cheering on each shot Efren took made him nervous. I can only imagine how 1500 crazy Filipinos must have been like when Gomez was playing.

If there will ever be a rematch between these two, for a race to atleast 17, I would sell my wife, car, house, etc and put my money on Gomez.
 
predator said:
If I were Peach, I would not respond to a challenge like that. As if the world pool champion has anything to prove to anyone...
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Too right! Daryl would need a pretty big incentive to devalue his title. If he did it for anything less than an opportunity to earn at least $50k with a 50% guaranteee then he would be foolish. He would also be keeping the game at it's customary low level where it is still perceived as a low rent sport.

Then with the financial luxury he could relax and outplay Gomez again.
He certainly has the skills to relieve poor Roy of a wife, a home and a car.
 
Whinning

They didn't get their new Filapino 'Superman' hero, and this is their attempt
to save face for it. Gomez broke just fine breaking hard, it was the pressure.

For heaven's sake, he choked on the 9 ball to would have made it 16-15, and he would have broke to put him in a hill-to-hill match. In fact he choked 3 different times at the end, if not more.

Lots of players can keep up with Gomez, and the only difference in a match will be how each is breaking the balls. Lots of players look like world champions when they are breaking good, but can you win when you aren't?
 
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pro9dg said:
Too right! Daryl would need a pretty big incentive to devalue his title. If he did it for anything less than an opportunity to earn at least $50k with a 50% guaranteee then he would be foolish. He would also be keeping the game at it's customary low level where it is still perceived as a low rent sport.

Then with the financial luxury he could relax and outplay Gomez again.
He certainly has the skills to relieve poor Roy of a wife, a home and a car.
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I don't understand what you're saying, "devalue" his title? He just won the world championship and has momentum and a great boost to his confidence, so how is playing or matching up for money "devaluing" anything? Did Shane devalue his titles by matching up afterwards? No, he VALIDATED his titles. Are you saying he should hide now? Retire? I'm confused why you don't think he should use his 15 minutes of fame to enhance his standing.
I apparently have more confidence in him than others do.
 
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