Gorilla Glue !

Russell Cues

Russell Cues

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WEll if anyone had a doubt about how strong gorilla glue is let me help you. Yesterday I was coring a batch of fronts/handles and while glueing up the 4th piece took 10 seconds to get another couple of fresh paper towels to wipe the ends with. Well just before i push the coring dowel through i sparay a mist of water into the cored peice and then a little glue and incer the dowel.

The Gorilla Glue started to activate and about 6 inched in, the dowel STOPPED ! I couldnt turn or push or pull it and inch ! I got some vice grips and grabbed the dowel, no dice, I finally got desparate and stood on it, Nope. The hydrolic preasure and glue expansion grabbed the dowel and that was that period. Soooo Today I had to re-core that front and start fresh. Just a side note, Im 270 lbs and have trained since I was 14 yrs old, heavy weight lifting and martial arts, that dowel wouldnt move for me, even with vice grips on the dowel !!

Strong enough, you bet !! I mist the inside of the cored piece for two reasons, one the wood is very dry and second the direction say to do so, moisten the work piece. Lucky for me it was only one peice that happend to LOL.


Tony
 
Is it possible the inside of the dowel expanded too much when you misted it water , Tony ?
 
JoeyInCali said:
Is it possible the inside of the dowel expanded too much when you misted it water , Tony ?
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Don't think so, thought of that too, my cores are loose but not sloppy, enough to go through easily. I've always done it this way, humidity was right maybe plus the light mist? All I know is it grabbed and held fast.
I've had the glue begin to activate before and gotten the core through, this time was a different story lol
 
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Russell Cues said:
WEll if anyone had a doubt about how strong gorilla glue is let me help you. Yesterday I was coring a batch of fronts/handles and while glueing up the 4th piece took 10 seconds to get another couple of fresh paper towels to wipe the ends with. Well just before i push the coring dowel through i sparay a mist of water into the cored peice and then a little glue and incer the dowel.

The Gorilla Glue started to activate and about 6 inched in, the dowel STOPPED ! I couldnt turn or push or pull it and inch ! I got some vice grips and grabbed the dowel, no dice, I finally got desparate and stood on it, Nope. The hydrolic preasure and glue expansion grabbed the dowel and that was that period. Soooo Today I had to re-core that front and start fresh. Just a side note, Im 270 lbs and have trained since I was 14 yrs old, heavy weight lifting and martial arts, that dowel wouldnt move for me, even with vice grips on the dowel !!
Strong enough, you bet !! I mist the inside of the cored piece for two reasons, one the wood is very dry and second the direction say to do so, moisten the work piece. Lucky for me it was only one peice that happend to LOL.


Tony
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I had the same problem a couple of days ago. A nice chunck of BEM and the PH cored froze up about 8" in. I cored it again and reglued it and everything looks good. Once that glue decides to set it's game over.
 
Hi,

When coring and using GG, I have found that having about .012 difference between my cored piece and the dowel works very well and is the ideal for me personally.

If you put the glue on the dowel and then spray water mist on the dowel, then shove it in while twisting it slowly you will be fine. If you spray or moisten the inside of the cored piece you will have a problem with maple for sure and some other woods that absorb water quickly will swell and the dowel will get stuck.:speechless:

JMO,

rick
 
Gg

I have never added any water to anything that I have cored with GG. My humidity is between 40% and 55%.

I turn cores and then sand them for an easy slip fit.

Foam comes out of both ends of a cored piece. I figure it has all the moisture it needs.

Kim
 
JoeyInCali said:
I think Tony just needs to get back in shape.:p
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Rofl !

There is plenty of "clearance" between the cored piece and coring dowel, wood swelling could be an issue when i mist it but it would have to swell Alot to stop the dowel like it did lol. Plus when i say mist I dont mean a spray bottle either, just not giving away all the methods in here :thumbup:
 
Gorilla Glue

You ever use the Gorilla Ductape, Don't put it on something, If you intend on taking the tape back off...

I thought Gorilla Glue Expaneded?
 
runoutsRme said:
You ever use the Gorilla Ductape, Don't put it on something, If you intend on taking the tape back off...

I thought Gorilla Glue Expaneded?
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I was an executive chef / convention center manager, we would use it to tape down mic cords or extention cords and yea IT wouldnt move unless you got a knife under an edge and got it started. Very sticky stuff
 
I think the amount of water used effects how much expansion takes place.

There is a video on the GG site that shows a tennon repair using a water spray bottle to coat the glue area.

Rick
 

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pescadoman said:
Its the wood expanding, not the glue....
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Sorry, it is the glue expanding. I used to manufactuer the same thing. It is a single part Urethane Foam where water becomes the blowing agent. The formulation can be made in many speeds and densities for expansion.

We used to make it to inject into cracks of basements through a one way valve. When the material hit moisture it would expand and stop leaks from coming in that area and you might have to do a multitude of areas.

More water, more expansion. Put to much water and glue into area putting front and handle togeather it will crack your wood.

Put it in a plastic shot glass and spray some water on it, you will see the reaction.
 
Never put glue in the core. Only put glue on the coring dowel. Wet only the inside of the hole and shove it through fast.
 
TomHay said:
Sorry, it is the glue expanding. I used to manufactuer the same thing. It is a single part Urethane Foam where water becomes the blowing agent. The formulation can be made in many speeds and densities for expansion.

We used to make it to inject into cracks of basements through a one way valve. When the material hit moisture it would expand and stop leaks from coming in that area and you might have to do a multitude of areas.

More water, more expansion. Put to much water and glue into area putting front and handle togeather it will crack your wood.

Put it in a plastic shot glass and spray some water on it, you will see the reaction.
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Hehe, I love a good discussion.

However Tom, like you pointed out it can be made in many speeds and densities for expansion. Like Great Stuff crack sealer

Even the fast set requires a MINIMUM clamp time of 30 mins(if you are clamping it).

To reinforce my theory let me add this. I thought it would be a bright idea to take a nicely fit dowel(maple), wet it, and run it through a cored piece of birdseye to damped the maple. I had to take it to my buddy's shop and use his hydraulic press to remove it. Both pieces expanded and wedged together.

:grin:
 
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