Celtic said:
there's actually another related mcd's lawsuit in the works. a guy collided with someone and spilled his coffee on a kid. the mother wants to sue because the coffee was 'unreasonably hot' and burned her kid
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there's actually another related mcd's lawsuit in the works. a guy collided with someone and spilled his coffee on a kid. the mother wants to sue because the coffee was 'unreasonably hot' and burned her kid
JimBo said:
Jim,
I hope you're kidding. This is 2005. They will have you in civil and criminal court for the next 5 years, or if you kill the guy, 40. They will parade his family in front of the judge telling everyone what a sweet loving guy he was as you look at his expressionless, drooling brain-damaged face in court every day. The women jurors look away from you and shake their heads when they hear how you split this guys skull with a two ball, playing for 10 bucks.
As you rot in your cell you can say "I sure showed that guy..."
Chris
matthew staton
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Cory in DC said:
guys come on down to beloit WI to gamble. It is right on the ILL. Wisconson boarder. Good luck beating locals at bars here because the 8 ball has to go in on a bank or long rail kick shot,man I hate this game but theres a nice size pool hall there it's called the carom room if ya want some action come play the owner Dave Coles JR.I just love to watch him beat up on the chicago guys. I myself don't gamble but I love to watch it. home bar of larry nevel. There are 9 ft, tables and bar tables good food and a heated billiard table and on saturday mournings always a 10 ,5 golf game going on in the mourning on the snooker table Erick come on up here some time.
matthew staton said:
I go to a few pools halls every so often, but I find it hard to match up where I feel that I'm not the underdog. The regulars that I know aren't really interested in a fair, evenly matched game...they really just want the nuts and their opponent's money.
I practice on a 9 foot table and I feel that I can complete very well on a 7-foot bar table. When I play in bars, even just for fun, I'm always hoping that a strong player shows up so that I will have a good challenge. A strong player (but not necessarily a world beater) in a normal bar will end up looking like a hustler to many people though. Although I like a good challenge from a strong player, I also enjoy playing all comers, since you're really just playing the table anyways.
I don't understand people who say playing for $5 or $10 a game is not gambling though. For me, playing all night and losing or winning $100 would not be that big of a deal, but I still believe that for a lot of people that would be considered a significant amount of money.
JimBo said:
To be honest with you, although I'm not the type looking for trouble...if I thought that it was just the one guy that I had to worry about...I would have just went outside to my car...and if he followed and tried something...that would have been fine with me. However, there were actually five of them including the bouncer (and he was huge). I know that there was no way I was going to be able to fight with only one of them--and they new that too--which is why they kept pushing...
Also, I left my cell phone in my car (not smart). But I'm still not sure about calling the cops, unless they really hurt me. Remember, I was drinking--not a lot, but some. Also, we were gambling. I believe that it's not really wise to call the cops and then lie to them and make up some story. I would have told them exactly what had happened and let the chips fall where they may. That is just me, but I do try to be as honest as I can. Even though telling the truth might have gotten me into some smaller trouble, I would have told the truth nonetheless.
That's fine not calling the Police since you were gambling..HOWEVER i cannot understand WHY you would not post the name of the bar so it can warn other innocent people of this potential for violence..for people drinking and causing a problem i say what they get in retuen is good for them ..but for innocent people that may wander into this place ...tell us about it....Get_A_Grip said:
cuejoey said:
The city is Antioch. For anyone who frequents bars in that town and wants to know the name, PM me and I will tell you. I think that the problem is just with the one bouncer and his buddies. I've played for money there a few other times and a different bouncer was always there. The other bouncer just told me not to openly display the money, because the bar could get into trouble. He was cool with the gambling and me winning.
TATE said:
Sorry Chris i wish I was just kidding, I don't really care what year it is, if a guy takes a swing at me and hits me I doubt I'd be thinking about HIM sueing ME. I'm just not the type of person who could let a guy punch me in the nuts and walk away. I know sleeping in a cell isn't easy, but I'm also sure I wouldn't be able to sleep in my own bed that nite letting it go. And besides all that if there really was 5 of them willing to fight for $10 I am sure I'd be the one sueing cause I'd be the one who got his ass kicked, I'd take out as many as I could then sue the bar,bar tender, bouncer, owners and everyone else who's name I could get. Of course that's if I got beat real bad, that doesn't happen to often. I think his attitude that he didn't want any trouble and his showing fear is what fueled these clowns, if he had freaked out they would have backed down (probably). I work in a college bar/pool hall, I've seen more then once where 1 guy backed down a group of 3-4 bigger guys. Maybe I'm out of 1950's with all the eye for an eye crap, but then again I also don't believe in time outs for the kids.
Jim
I had fun reading this thread. I don't know much about pool and I don't gamble, but I do have some experience in this area. One of the toughest guys I've known of and four of his buddies all got shot by a guy who went home and came back with a gun. The muscle was the only one who went to the hospital with a gunshot wound AND a broken hand. The bullet severed his spinal cord.
By the way, if you want to see a good movie where the locals get the tables turned on them, rent "Knockaround Guys". Good movie.
By the way, if you want to see a good movie where the locals get the tables turned on them, rent "Knockaround Guys". Good movie.
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Shoebat
we see a pooltable somewhere and think it's all about the pool, but it isn't: people go to bars to blow off steam, maybe establish some feelings of dominance and power or some sense of community and family that they don't manage to feel in other parts in their lives, they work out a little testosterone, dance, pick each other up, get in some drama and gossip. Even though this is a super-nice bar, it's still a bar with alcohol and all of the baggage that goes with it.
dm and others have said that the game was not about pool, and I'm trying to think of another way to explain why I agree with them. The big guy twice demonstrated that this whole thing was not about pool or money to him when he offered your $2 to you in the bathroom, and then when he insisted you take it when he got the $15. You violated his sense of right and wrong somehow and he was going out of his way to make sure it all fit to his code- fairly.
it sounds like his trip was "you don't waltz into MY home and call us names and take our money." I think it was local because he was clearly on the side of the buddy when he moved the balls according to who would benefit... I know some who would fight instantly if they were ever called a "liar." I can only imagine being called a cheater would be much much worse... Ultimately, he probably felt disrespected on a lot of levels.
i'm thinking the whole event was like two people having a conversation in different languages and then thinking they understand each other. You were both probably thinking, "i don't believe this sh*t"
dm and others have said that the game was not about pool, and I'm trying to think of another way to explain why I agree with them. The big guy twice demonstrated that this whole thing was not about pool or money to him when he offered your $2 to you in the bathroom, and then when he insisted you take it when he got the $15. You violated his sense of right and wrong somehow and he was going out of his way to make sure it all fit to his code- fairly.
it sounds like his trip was "you don't waltz into MY home and call us names and take our money." I think it was local because he was clearly on the side of the buddy when he moved the balls according to who would benefit... I know some who would fight instantly if they were ever called a "liar." I can only imagine being called a cheater would be much much worse... Ultimately, he probably felt disrespected on a lot of levels.
i'm thinking the whole event was like two people having a conversation in different languages and then thinking they understand each other. You were both probably thinking, "i don't believe this sh*t"
T
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My 1st question is call pocket or call shot, 2nd question is ball in hand or behind the line, 3rd question is off the break, "take what you make" or "open if you sink a ball?" Once those questions are answered, I/my opponent can break the balls. When I play in a bar, I refuse to play until I have the answer to those 3 questions. Being a female, I've had a different set of problems.(aside from guys not being able to lose to a girl) (one guy showed me his paystubCory in DC said:
). The worst... I was playing a guy for $5 a game... he wins the 1st game & I'm racking... while I rack, his buddy on a barstool behind me starts rubbing his cue up & down the inside of my leg. I was completely ignoring it as my opponent asked me if I wanted to jack the bet. I was so pissed about his friend behind me, I told him he could bet whatever the hell he wanted to. (this was the loser that showed me his paycheck stub). Once he jacked the bet from $5 a game to $20 a game & I was done racking, I turned around to his buddy on the barstool & politely told him that if he touched me again, I would shove that pool stick up his ass. (big talker for a chick whose friends had yet to show up ) It was actually stupid but I got lucky. He left me alone but during the course of the game, he would coach my opponent on what & how to shoot. I scratched on the ball b4 the 8 ball. (8 ball was in the kitchen). My opponents buddy instructed him to scratch... scratch he did. I kicked at the 8, hit it but didn't make it. Again, he lines up & shoots the cue right into the side pocket, no attempt to hit a single ball. Again, I Kick & miss. His buddy went up to coach him again but my patience was gone. I laid the cue on the table & told him that if I lost fair & square, he would get his $20, but if his buddy coached him one more time or he scratched one more time... win or lose, I wasn't paying up. He nodded his head in agreement, shot at his ball, missed & I got out. I collected my money & started to walk away. he asked to play again... I told him "any other time, I would give you a chance to win your money back but between your buddy trying to molest me with a cue & your continual cheating, I'm not going to give you that chance. I might as well just hand the money back to you." Again, I got lucky... LOL, he had the waitress bring me two drinks & a shot. Had I been in your situation... I would've given him one or two bucks (whatever the bet was) when the deal went down with the ball in the kitchen (or not in the kitchen). hand 'em the money & walk out the door. Once in awhile, you have to forego pride. 
Good Synopsis... a Psyche major could do their thesis on this subject...blah blah said:
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I got hijacked in Florida one time two guys with ski masks and guns came up to my car. Got me for about 4800.
I got hijacked in Florida one time two guys with ski masks and guns came up to my car. Got me for about 4800.
Sometimes it just pays to carry a pistol (if and only if you KNOW how to use it and have a very cool head). I know two guys at my pool room who are always packing and some of the nicest/non trouble starting folks...but I know who to be near if the sh*t ever hit the fan. Actually one of them had to shoot a guy in there before. It isn't a rough pool hall..but one night a guy came in bleeding claiming he was shot. A minute later a guy came in with a 9mil looking for the aforementioned gentleman. One of the patrons I mentioned who is always strapped instinctively pulled out his weapon and took the attacker out. Somehow he avoided getting into any trouble for it either..I know why, but out of respect I can't/won't mention it on here (and it really isn't that big of a deal regardless).
My father always carried a little 38 snubnose on him. He is a little guy like me. I only saw him pull it one time. We were at a car wash, and a car full of drunken gentlemen (and I use the term loosely) came zooming around and then started talking trash to my dad for no reason, and then said something threatening about or toward me (just being drunk and stupid-and the memory is vague). I just remember my dad saying "Oh really.." and pulling his pistol out as he walked towards their car (with it aimed towards the ground) and they quickly sped off. He told me later he was just going to take a windshield out. He grew up in a rougher time period where you had to know how to protect yourself.
All in all though, don't waste time with the nickel and dime gambling with thugs. You should carefully evaluate the situation and people before asking to gamble. Sometimes you might be asking for trouble and you don't even realize it. Kind of sounds like in your case you were being a bit too whiny in their home room. ASKING THE BOUNCER to make a ruling?? Uhhhhh...ok. When I play on someone's home turf who I KNOW I can beat, I just say "Ok" to whatever new rule comes up and I remain friendly. If you show respect people generally won't care about losing money to you. I went to a rough little club in Nashville called Big Daddy's (which had a teen night on Sundays). I (and my friend) realized there were nothing but gang members and thugs there after we entered (at the time I was 17- yes, Nashville TN has gangs). I played a big, crazy dude for ( you guessed it, 2 bucks a game ) and agreed with whatever rule he initiated to help his chances. Regardless he never had a chance. I just remained respectful (without being weak) and after I won about 10 bucks or so he complimented my pool game and acted as if it was the first time he had ever been beaten...so that meant I was really special. He and his friends spoke to me several times during my time at the club that night in a very cordial manner (as if we were old friends). Later that night he and his friend jumped some guy who tried to dance with his girlfriend. Yikes.. It is a tough world sometimes.
My father always carried a little 38 snubnose on him. He is a little guy like me. I only saw him pull it one time. We were at a car wash, and a car full of drunken gentlemen (and I use the term loosely) came zooming around and then started talking trash to my dad for no reason, and then said something threatening about or toward me (just being drunk and stupid-and the memory is vague). I just remember my dad saying "Oh really.." and pulling his pistol out as he walked towards their car (with it aimed towards the ground) and they quickly sped off. He told me later he was just going to take a windshield out. He grew up in a rougher time period where you had to know how to protect yourself.
All in all though, don't waste time with the nickel and dime gambling with thugs. You should carefully evaluate the situation and people before asking to gamble. Sometimes you might be asking for trouble and you don't even realize it. Kind of sounds like in your case you were being a bit too whiny in their home room. ASKING THE BOUNCER to make a ruling?? Uhhhhh...ok. When I play on someone's home turf who I KNOW I can beat, I just say "Ok" to whatever new rule comes up and I remain friendly. If you show respect people generally won't care about losing money to you. I went to a rough little club in Nashville called Big Daddy's (which had a teen night on Sundays). I (and my friend) realized there were nothing but gang members and thugs there after we entered (at the time I was 17- yes, Nashville TN has gangs). I played a big, crazy dude for ( you guessed it, 2 bucks a game ) and agreed with whatever rule he initiated to help his chances. Regardless he never had a chance. I just remained respectful (without being weak) and after I won about 10 bucks or so he complimented my pool game and acted as if it was the first time he had ever been beaten...so that meant I was really special. He and his friends spoke to me several times during my time at the club that night in a very cordial manner (as if we were old friends). Later that night he and his friend jumped some guy who tried to dance with his girlfriend. Yikes.. It is a tough world sometimes.
This one is a suburb of Chicago, ILMatt_24 said: