Greg Sullivan

jay helfert said:
Asked Greg about this and he told me that not all Diamond bar tables will play the same. It can be the rail height or even humidity that causes this. I know that the tables we played on in Reno at the USBT played just fine.

He said that if anyone is having trouble with their Diamond table, they can call him. (812)989-6665.
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LOL, it was the tables at the USBT that prompted me to make the comment. I saw a ridiculous number of unusual bounces off those rails, and many bounce so stiffly that they don't seem to catch running english properly at all.

It's not something unique to one table or two either, I think there's an actual flaw in the design which is causing the problem. Greg should talk to several of the top players and see what they think - I'm sure many will agree with me. He should also take a good look at the Accu-Fast rail because I agree with the previous poster that they are clearly doing something very right there.

Don't get me wrong, the Diamonds are excellent tables, and the product is totally first-rate in every way. The issue with the bounce off the rail is something that definitely warrants some study, that's all. I mean, why not make the tables better if you can?
 
gromulan said:
See if you can get him to do something about the crazy bounces off the rails on the bar tables. It's making them almost unplayable.

What he really needs to do is reverse engineer the Olhausen Accu-Fast rails for Diamond. Olhausens are crappy tables but those rails play great.
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I think you played on an improperly setup table. All the Diamond barbox tables I've played on were great.
 
gromulan said:
LOL, it was the tables at the USBT that prompted me to make the comment. I saw a ridiculous number of unusual bounces off those rails, and many bounce so stiffly that they don't seem to catch running english properly at all.

It's not something unique to one table or two either, I think there's an actual flaw in the design which is causing the problem. Greg should talk to several of the top players and see what they think - I'm sure many will agree with me. He should also take a good look at the Accu-Fast rail because I agree with the previous poster that they are clearly doing something very right there.

Don't get me wrong, the Diamonds are excellent tables, and the product is totally first-rate in every way. The issue with the bounce off the rail is something that definitely warrants some study, that's all. I mean, why not make the tables better if you can?
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Greg is here with me and he read this. He said they are working on improving the table and are doing tests on the rail rubber and angles right now. He added that if anyone wants more information they can call him.
 
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jay helfert said:
What you might not know it that Greg was the teacher/mentor for some of the more high profile table mechanics that post on here. Yes, they learned much of their craft from him. But Greg is not one to go around blowing his own horn. So I will do it for him./QUOTE]

That could be wrote to be read either way, some of the high profile mechanics that post on here have also taught Greg a few things as well;)

Glen
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no offense to anyone but accu-fast rails SUCK IMO, Olhausan is way out of there league
I have played on some Diamonds that play more springy then others, but I pretty much every table plays different, that is just part of the sport
On top of that Greg and Mark do more for pool than anyone, they should be supported.
Support is not just words but by buying there products.

Greg I would love to test any table you need tested,:wink:
 
jay helfert said:
Asked Greg about this and he told me that not all Diamond bar tables will play the same. It can be the rail height or even humidity that causes this. I know that the tables we played on in Reno at the USBT played just fine.

He said that if anyone is having trouble with their Diamond table, they can call him. (812)989-6665.
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I had a chance to play on a number of Diamond 7' tables at the recent TAP Pool League National event that was held here in Charleston a couple of months ago and I have never played on a better 7' table. The room was full of tables for the tournament so I got to try 6 or 8 different tables and i've never seen a better 7' table. The tables I played on played like a 9' table and my only problem is I can't afford one right now or i'd have one sitting in my home. Diamond tables are the best IMO.......

James
 
jay helfert said:
What you might not know it that Greg was the teacher/mentor for some of the more high profile table mechanics that post on here. Yes, they learned much of their craft from him. But Greg is not one to go around blowing his own horn. So I will do it for him.
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realkingcobra said:
That could be wrote to be read either way, some of the high profile mechanics that post on here have also taught Greg a few things as well;)

Glen
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my hat is always off to the people in this world that do outstanding work and never toot their own horn. In my opinion, that is a very telltale trait that sheds alot of light on that person as a whole.:)

Hat's off to Greg!

By that same token though........:rolleyes:
 
Go Greg! Go Diamond!

I am amazed by how well Diamond has done. In an industry ran pretty much by Brunswick and many other table makers have come and gone we have seen Diamond rise to the top. I think many of us knew that Diamond is the best table out there and more and more people are realizing this. It is funny because we have one Diamond in Kolby's and it is the table everyone prefers to play on but of course action gets first dibs on the table.

I think Greg is doing wonderful things and really cares about the game, he is the head guy at Diamond and is reachable, try contacting the head guy at Brunswick. Brunswick is not putting back anything into the sport from what I see, the DCC is one of the best tournaments in the world, if not the best and I am sure Greg digs deep to make it happen. I have yet to make it to the DCC but hope to sometime in the near future to sweat so much great pool it will have me spinning. Diamond is here to stay and I cannot wait until more rooms start filling up with them. :smile:
 
A big thank you to Greg Sullivan for all he has endured in the pool world! I also want to back him flipping quarters too-lol. He has made great tables and put on great events. So thank you again for your vision for Pool all around the globe.
 
"CaliRed". said:
my hat is always off to the people in this world that do outstanding work and never toot their own horn. In my opinion, that is a very telltale trait that sheds alot of light on that person as a whole.:)

Hat's off to Greg!

By that same token though........:rolleyes:
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Isn't it the truth! I've had the pleasure to speak with Mr. Sullivan a few times and he has always been a gentleman. He leads by example. It is a shame that some people have their nose too far in the air or their chest too puffed out to see that example, learn from it and follow it.
 
I am somewhat mystified at the "bounce" referred to in some other posts. Are we referring to a "Big G" type of bounce off the rubber (rail height)? Is it a different angle taken by the cue ball off the rubber? Different in as to the angle you think you'll get off the rail. Can it be the "Diamonds bank short" comment I've heard? Please enlighten me.

Jay, hope you haven't been feeding Greg those cheeseburgers he loves so much:yikes:. Seriously, IMHO, no one is doing more for the game of pool than Greg. Diamond tables, whether small or large, play consistantly better than any factory made table out there. Hopefully Paul Smith can figure out how to put one in my attic this spring.

My glass is raised for Greg, Chad, Paul and the rest of the great folks at Diamond. See "all you'all" at the Super Billiards Expo!

Lyn
 
cardiac kid said:
I am somewhat mystified at the "bounce" referred to in some other posts. Are we referring to a "Big G" type of bounce off the rubber (rail height)? Is it a different angle taken by the cue ball off the rubber? Different in as to the angle you think you'll get off the rail. Can it be the "Diamonds bank short" comment I've heard? Please enlighten me.

Jay, hope you haven't been feeding Greg those cheeseburgers he loves so much:yikes:. Seriously, IMHO, no one is doing more for the game of pool than Greg. Diamond tables, whether small or large, play consistantly better than any factory made table out there. Hopefully Paul Smith can figure out how to put one in my attic this spring.

My glass is raised for Greg, Chad, Paul and the rest of the great folks at Diamond. See "all you'all" at the Super Billiards Expo!

Lyn
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Lyn, I am curious if the size of the balls they are using might come into play but what do I know.
 
UrackmIcrackm said:
Isn't it the truth! I've had the pleasure to speak with Mr. Sullivan a few times and he has always been a gentleman. He leads by example. It is a shame that some people have their nose too far in the air or their chest too puffed out to see that example, learn from it and follow it.
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I support Diamond and Greg 100% as most of you already know, but to make the Diamond tables the way they are today was not all Greg or Diamond, as most of you don't know...because I'm not on here trying to take credit for anything. I know what I've done and that's all that really counts, so SOME of you...are out of line with your comments...because you just DON'T know...and really DON'T need to know:rolleyes:

Glen
 
I'd like to have a diamond but first I'd have to get rid of my A E Schmidt and I doubt if that will ever happen.

Plus, my wife might notice the $3,000 gone out of the checking account.
 
I agree the rails on bar box play bad if you hit hard banks. hit soft fine. I will have to talk to our bar vendor and have him read this post. We are in Waukesha, WI. about 20 miles west of milwaukee. All diamond bar box rails play the same here in WI. Will research this more may have vendor call Greg. Great post Jay:smile::smile::smile::smile::smile::smile:
 
alstl said:
I'd like to have a diamond but first I'd have to get rid of my A E Schmidt and I doubt if that will ever happen.

Plus, my wife might notice the $3,000 gone out of the checking account.
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She might notice the change in your pockets getting a little heavy as well:grin:
 
Fast Lenny said:
Lyn, I am curious if the size of the balls they are using might come into play but what do I know.
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Lenny,

As far as I know, only some of the cue balls used on a Valley, Dynamo etc. are oversized. Never seen a set of pool balls made as large. Billiard balls yes. Pool balls no. It does bring into effect rail height though. A great thing about Diamond is their rack. Place it next to the rail. If the rail rubber is higher or lower, something is wrong. Small thing but really well worked out!

Lyn
 
realkingcobra said:
She might notice the change in your pockets getting a little heavy as well:grin:
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Hi Glen,

Understand you're coming to Upstate New York to work on one of my friends table. May I mention your visit to our new room owner? Our eight GC III's are in desparate need of your TLC. Regardless, I'll be visiting you at his house while you're here. Looking forward to meeting you.

Lyn
 
jay helfert said:
But Greg is not one to go around blowing his own horn. So I will do it for him.

P.S. He can still play a little too. :smile:
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Yeah, that's no lie. Just before the Galveston tournament he was seen down in New Orleans gambling with the locals, supplementing his income.

JoeyA
 
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