Handle this any better?

Shannon.spronk

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So I was playing in a team tournament over the weekend and this situation came up. It was the first game of this match. It started about 10 pm. I am playing against another player that was a little intoxicated. I broke and made a few then played safe. He was able to jump and make a ball. He makes a couple more and then as he is lining up another shot he is cueing very close to the cue ball and he taps the cue ball forward about 2 inches. Before he does anything else I say foul loud enough for him to hear but he just continues with his shot anyway. He misses the shot and I say foul and he says yeah sure. It was an obvious foul so I didn't even fathom that he might have not been serious when he said yeah sure. I proceed to pick up the cue ball. He then gets irate almost instantly and starts in on me. He gets right in my face and tells me about how he has been playing for 15 years and he knows that he did not foul. He asks me what he did and I explain it to him and he is livid saying that there is no way that happened.

Eventually his team pulls him back to their area and I am about to take my first shot when he stands up again and stands right next to the table just chirping it up about how if I want to win like that then whatever. Each time he opens his mouth I casually walk over to my table and grab a drink of Coke and wait for him to stop all the while with a nice big grin on my face. This goes back and forth for a while I make a ball and he chirps. I grin and go take a drink. He backs off and I go to line up again and he starts chirping again.

Personally I did not care much that he was loud and did not think that he fouled because it was obvious. I just keep my happy grin on my face and continue to run the table out. I am about to shoot the 8 ball and at this point no matter what I do he will not stop. I just stand by my table waiting for him to go take a seat and just stop the constant berating of me as a human being and I still have the smile on my face.

Anyways my captain goes and grabs the tournament director and he comes over. The guy sees him coming and goes and sits down. I sink the 8 ball. Game over. The TD actually offers to DQ the guy because he had been watching what was going on and was just a little busy to come over. I said no dont worry about it. The other guys captain is standing right there as the TD tells me this. Anyways I said no and the TD tells the other captain that if sees anything else from that guy he is going to DQ the entire team.

The TD walks away and I talk to the other captain for a little bit. He explains that the other guy is just a little drunk and in a bad mood and I flat out told him that it is no excuse. He then tells me that he say his player foul but the game was between us so he did not want to get involved. I nearly lost it. After his player was trying to get in my face about an obvious foul that his captain saw this captain decided to do nothing.

After that point for the rest of the match I did my best to just avoid the guy I had played against. If he was playing on the table closest to me I just stood off to the side. I just don't need all that drama in my life that some people seem to invite freely into their lives. At the end of the match we won and that was what we wanted to do anyway so I guess mission accomplished. Just wondering how others might have handled it differently better/worse in that situation.
 
Had a guy in Carlsbad, N.M. tell me when he moved the CB while lining up a shot that since the ball didn't move 6 in. it was no foul. I laughed at him and ask where in the hell did you learn that rule. He says American Leigon[sp]---Smitty
 
Seems kinda like you were fueling it a little with your "nice big grin". Maybe if you really want them to calm down next time you will act a little differently.
 
good assessment...

Seems kinda like you were fueling it a little with your "nice big grin". Maybe if you really want them to calm down next time you will act a little differently.

I totally agree. Reacting by putting on your "smarmy" face does nothing to help the situation. You might just get your ass kicked.
 
You handled it like you should have handled it. Kudos to you!

I probably would have getting loud and done some regrettable things.
 
I think you handled it very well. Perhaps the smirking is a little much, but given what you were getting, that's a drop in the bucket :)

I do think it sucks that the other captain didn't tone him down, since he saw that it was really a foul. Its one thing to not call a foul on your teammate, but when its called, and you know it happened...c'mon.

Congratulations on the win!
 
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Beer, 10PM and pool woodchucks are a recipe for trouble. It gets worse if you even look in the direction of their toothless women.
 
You probably handled it better then I would have.
I wouldn't doubt if he was MF'n you to his buddy's right now.
The next time you see him will tell you who he really is.
Apology or there's that MFer.
 
I think we need a separate sub-forum for angry-drunk pool stories.

At this rate, it would have more threads than 3/4 of the other sub-forums.




You handled it well.
 
Clearly all this pool playing was affecting everyone's drinking time to the point of frustration. :rolleyes:

I swear I'm gonna have a team named "my drinking team has a pool problem..."

Gotta be the right bunch. I have a few in mind :p
 
That is the CORRECT answer!

This should have been settled BEFORE it even got to the point it did.

He did! Read his post:
"Before he does anything else I say foul loud enough for him to hear but he just continues with his shot anyway. He misses the shot and I say foul and he says yeah sure."
 
He did! Read his post:
"Before he does anything else I say foul loud enough for him to hear but he just continues with his shot anyway. He misses the shot and I say foul and he says yeah sure."

Yeah I will never pick up the cue ball on a foul if the other person does not verbally agree that it was a foul. Him saying yeah sure sounded like a sincere yes I fouled. It did not sound like a yeah sure whatever you say man.

I will not pick up the cue ball unless the other player agrees no matter how obvious the foul may be. I dont care if they take their cue and tap the cue ball after a foul I will still say foul? and get a verbal response form them.
 
Well, I think you should not have let him continue with his shot,
unless he did it so fast you had absolutely no chance to stop him.

He might try to argue this rule:
If a foul is not called before the next shot begins, the foul is assumed not to have happened.

I guess that wouldn't apply, because the foul happened on the 'current' shot and not the 'next shot'.
But still. You want to resolve the foul the instant it happens.
If that means getting out of your chair and walking to the table then do it.

Don't stay seated and let him stay in his shooting stance, just to be "polite".
Because then it muddies the waters and he can claim he didn't see anything,
and you never said anything, you just suddenly got out your seat after he shot and took BIH.

If someone moves the cue ball 2 whole inches, I'm 99% sure they felt it and knew they fouled.
But maybe there's a tiny chance he thought you were trying to call foul ahead of time,
because you thought he was about to do an illegal jump or push shot or something.
Then it's understandable he'd be pissed.

But probably he's a bar player who is used to playing with people do never take
it seriously when someone taps the cue ball.
 
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