Heart...

Courage. Courage to do what is important to you no matter the danger involved. Doesn't matter if the danger is monetary or embarrassment or whatever.

Heart is the "go for it" attitude. Courage. Guts. Personal power. Spirit.

Asking for a raise.
Asking for a date.
To read for the part.
To audition for the band.
To do the presentation.
To get up there and make the speech.
To go way out on a limb.
To face your fear, maybe your greatest fear.
Heart plays the solo, makes the speech, asks for the date. The man is afraid so he gives it up and lets Heart do it and Heart does the job without a second thought. Heart is not unafraid. Heart just does it. Heart doesn't know how to do it. Heart just does it. Heart just does it.

You can't win without heart but you may lose even though you have heart.

With heart you don't quit, you don't let up, you don't give in, you don't shrink.

There it is! You got heart you don't shrink! YOU DO NOT SHRINK!!
Faced with diffculty many of us shrink... we get smaller. We shrivel up and fall back inside ourselves.... we get little'r and little'r until we don't exist on the radar anymore.

Heart makes us get bigger when faced with annihilation. Heart means you walk towards your probable death lookin the slimy mf'r dead in the face, with a clear eye, an open mind, and an unfaltering gait all while taking dead freakin aim.

Later you know that it was your body that did it but you also know that the usual person that you and others think of as being "you" didn't do it. Heart did it. Life changes after that.

Google Robert Flack's version of To Dream The Impossible Dream.

Edit: Fatboy... you don't worry 'bout heart. I KNOW when a man's got heart and you got no worries along those lines. You got the orange crush in Heart.
 
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JimS said:
Courage. Courage to do what is important to you no matter the danger involved. Doesn't matter if the danger is monetary or embarrassment or whatever.

Heart is the "go for it" attitude. Courage. Guts. Personal power. Spirit.

Asking for a raise.
Asking for a date.
To read for the part.
To audition for the band.
To do the presentation.
To get up there and make the speech.
To go way out on a limb.
To face your fear, maybe your greatest fear.
Heart plays the solo, makes the speech, asks for the date. The man is afraid so he gives it up and lets Heart do it and Heart does the job without a second thought. Heart is not unafraid. Heart just does it. Heart doesn't know how to do it. Heart just does it. Heart just does it.

You can't win without heart but you may lose even though you have heart.

With heart you don't quit, you don't let up, you don't give in, you don't shrink.

There it is! You got heart you don't shrink! YOU DO NOT SHRINK!!
Faced with diffculty many of us shrink... we get smaller. We shrivel up and fall back inside ourselves.... we get little'r and little'r until we don't exist on the radar anymore.

Heart makes us get bigger when faced with annihilation. Heart means you walk towards your probable death lookin the slimy mf'r dead in the face, with a clear eye, an open mind, and an unfaltering gait all while taking dead freakin aim and later you know that it was your body but "you" didn't do it. Heart did it.

Google Robert Flack's version of To Dream The Impossible Dream.

Edit: Fatboy... you don't worry 'bout heart. I KNOW when a man's got heart and you got no worries along those lines. You got the orange crush in Heart.
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wow what a post, thats exactly why i started this thread, I'm gonna print that out, i have ran my businesses like that for years, when the FTC hit me, when I was on case $$$ in the beginning I never gave up, i'm in court as a plantiff now fighting for my rights, it never stops, there have been some easy months hear and there over the past 11 years but I understand, you summarized it, spot on. thanks
 
Heart!!

Eric,heart is the understanding of what needs to be executed,and the complete confidence that you will do it.
 
olympic champions

Fatboy,

I agree with you completely. Heart, talent, and the physical abilities that you have acquired at a certain moment in time are all distinctly different. In some respects I think that those gifted more with determination and less with talent have an edge over many with talent who may have never had to develop their determination to the same level.

One group of people that have always interested me are Olympic gold medallists. We could argue amateur or professional but the lines have always been blurred in the time of the modern Olympics. I think it is fair to say that on the day or days of their win they were the very best in the world. When you read their stories you find a few were extraordinarily gifted from the very beginning and were "naturals" at their event. However far more were only moderately gifted with skills or physique and extraordinarily courageous and determined. Some even had handicaps or injuries that prevent most people from having normal lives yet they not only led normal lives but were the best in the world at what they chose to do.

If I had a choice I would choose a strong work ethic and courage with just a smidgeon of talent over a lot of talent and a smidgeon of the other two any time.

Hu


Fatboy said:
I think that the lesser talanted players need more heart than the gifted players, I have seen the strong A players down in the trenches in action alot more than the gifted players(champions) who just show up and win, not all the time but most of the time

i have been gifted in one thing in life and didnt work half as hard as the guys who wernt as gifted-telemarketing. It came natural to me, I would go in do my thing for a couple hours and leave, I got bigger numbers($$$) than the guys pounding the phones all day. I didnt have the heart they did and believe me that gig takes heart. I just did my thing and left 4 hours earily everyday. I'm not taking anything away from top pool players just sharing my experience-perhaps its a bad compairson. Heart and talant are 2 different things.

again not to beat a dead horse i made this thread to gain insight into the pshchology of our sport, its not about me, its for me and other to learn from.
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wincardona said:
Eric,heart is the understanding of what needs to be executed,and the complete confidence that you will do it.
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there you are, i was getting worried, happy holidays, call me sometime. thanks for your interpetation of heart, thats big comming from a champion.
 
Fatboy wish you the best!

Heart is knowing you have no more left , but your heart won`t let you quit!

Heart is being down 8 to 0 in a race to 9 in nineball, then looking up and seeing your dads face with that look that says I believe in you son. Yet knowing your opponent is alot better than you, You play on with everything you got. And when the match is over the score is 9 to 8 , You won!

From experience!

RIP DAD!
 
Fatboy said:
How deep you dig into your soul to keep playing?
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That's the one.

I think more accurately, it is how deep you dig within yourself to continue the fight when you're being beaten. Those with great heart, tend to still win even under those conditions. Their opponent gives up first!

By no means, is this restricted to pool.
 
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Fatboy wish you the best!

Heart is knowing you have no more left , but your heart won`t let you quit!

Heart is being down 8 to 0 in a race to 9 in nineball, then looking up and seeing your dads face with that look that says I believe in you son. Yet knowing your opponent is alot better than you, You play on with everything you got. And when the match is over the score is 9 to 8 , You won!

From experience!

RIP DAD!
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Personally, this definition is my favorite of all, thanks 9Ball
 
My definition of heart in pool goes something like this.

Being able to make the 9-Ball from off the end rail when it is hill-hill, and you have all your money on the line. That takes heart!

To me, heart is that certain something that winners have that gives them the strength to make a very difficult shot under extreme pressure. Some guys can do it and some guys will dog it every time.

Every champion I ever saw had heart. You don't win titles on skill alone!
 
So many good replies here. I can agree with a lot of them.

To me heart is not beating yourself up when your opponent is doing exactly that to you. It's all about your next shot, thinking "I know I'll get a chance, and I'm gonna make the best of it!"

Someone else mentioned playing after hearing about a parent passing away. I had to play league pool twice on days when my parents died. Turned out I was the only one of our team to win on both occasions. Everyone was amazed I even showed up to play. At the time I didn't consider that as having heart, I thought of it more as being a way to shut out the nightmare day I'd had & concentrate on something else. Maybe that was heart, I'm still not sure. I do know if you can get your head down & play in that situation you can pretty much do it anytime.
 
JCIN said:
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat."

Theodore Roosevelt

Pretty much sums it for me.
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I'm with you on that, JCIN.

Fatboy;

It is not your "heart" that allows you to play. Its what you put into it when you do play. Good Luck, play hard and leave it all on the table.

Mike
 
jay helfert said:
My definition of heart in pool goes something like this.

Being able to make the 9-Ball from off the end rail when it is hill-hill, and you have all your money on the line. That takes heart!

Every champion I ever saw had heart. You don't win titles on skill alone!
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being able to make that 9-Ball that you describe, uh, well, lets say i'd prefer to have skill than heart.

you dont win titles on skill alone? uh, no, but without it you will STARVE big time, almost all the time!!!

DCP
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
being able to make that 9-Ball that you describe, uh, well, lets say i'd prefer to have skill than heart.

you dont win titles on skill alone? uh, no, but without it you will STARVE big time, almost all the time!!!

DCP
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I noticed youre in southwest indiana? You anywhere near evansville?
 
Fatboy, I think what Teddy Roosevelt said about courage, best describes "heart".

Theodore Roosevelt on Courage:
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, and comes short again and again because there is not effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat."

JoeyA
 
i knew this was going to be a good thread...even got Mr.Cardone on board with it.
 
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