Help, asking a client that u sold a cue to if its for sale because another client has

There is a guy in Denver who owns 2 old Black Boars.
They really aren't worth a ton of money, and he gets really upset when someone try's to buy them.
I've never made any offers because I know the guy is a jerk, and there are a lot of them out there.
Another guy has a plain jane Boar that is missing a tooth in the but cap, so he doesn't play with it, and he also gets weird when someone try's to buy it.
 
The cue will come to you...

There are tire kickers and no bullshiters....if you know which one you are dealing with, sure makes things easy....:smile:
 
Everyone has their own set of business ethics. You just came up against this person's. His feelings about how he wants to run his business are his opinion, not really up for discussion, and likely to be emotionally charged.

Don't take it as an insult, and move on with your day, would be my advice.

Thank you kindly.
 
Corwyn_8 said:
Everyone has their own set of business ethics. You just came up against this person's. His feelings about how he wants to run his business are his opinion, not really up for discussion, and likely to be emotionally charged.



Don't take it as an insult, and move on with your day, would be my advice.



Thank you kindly.
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I can appreciate that. And I won't let it bother me. Thank u sir
 
Not

You were not out of line at all. In fact what you did is good for busn. I would love for a broker or cue maker tell me if I ever want to sell they have an interested party. Do not let this one incident stop you in the future of inquiring about sold cues.
 
michael4 said:
I don't see anything wrong with your asking, and I don't see anything wrong with the original seller asking the buyer if he would entertain an offer.

I don't see how anyone could be seriously offended if they receive an offer to buy.
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Ditto this
 
Yeah I'm gonna just go ahead and say that the seller put his foot in his mouth. If you feel the need to throw money at a cue I'm selling one cause I'm broke :wink:
 
I have had this happen more than a couple of times with me being the seller and after a sale I get contacted by another potential buyer who was late to the party but still wants a shot at the cue, if possible.

there is zero downside for me as the seller to directly contact my customer and let them know that another person is interested if they care to sell the cue. If they are interested, I provide them with the contact info for the new prospective buyer and they can see about working out a deal. No harm, no foul.

The way I look at it it's a basic courtesy and a simple accommodation.

In one of those cases, the new buyer was so pleased over getting the cue he wanted, he actually sent me a little jelly which he def didn't have to do. :cool:

best,
brian kc
 
southwestkid said:
Ok. I have a question. Maybe I'm way out of line here, but I want to know what everyone thinks. I recently found a cue I wanted. I found out the cue was sold, so I contacted the seller, who runs a cue sale business, and I asked if he knew who owned the cue and if he would inquire about if the cue was available for sale or trade. He emailed me back and said "Are you out of your mind? I'd never consider disturbing any customer with something like that."

Now first of all I would never speak to a prospective customer, or for that matter a person, like that. Out of my mind? Was my request so terrible. I wasn't asking for contact info, just if the cue was for sale. Everything has a price as we all know. And if he was offended all he had to say was "no, I choose not to do that sort of thing". And if that was said, then no problem. It wouldn't have bothered me so much. But when he said "are you out of your mind " it really upset me. First of all, why would you say that to a cue buyer if that's what you do for a business. I am the one buyer you really don't want to upset considering I have a nice collection of high end boars, and manzinos to name a few and I'm not afraid to put big cash up for a big cue I want. And I always over pay, I'm sure, because I'm a collector and buy out of passion not investment. If anything he should have said "no I'm sorry sir, but I have this for sale or I can get you this or something. Make a sales pitch for gods sake!!! Sorry. I'm ranting ,,,, it just really upset me.

So back to my original question. Is it bad business to ask a client, that you sold a cue to, if that cue is for sale? I bought a $18k cue from grassley and 2 weeks later he contacted me and asked if I was interested in selling it. I had no problem with that. I could have flipped the cue and made a couple grand if I wanted, but I chose to keep the cue. But I liked having the option, and I didn't feel bothered at all with him asking? Would most people be bothered with that? Am I just unique? Most of the cue guys here buy and sell their cues all the time. And I would always welcome offers. I've got 3 cues I'd never sell. But if one of the old owners contacted me and said hey, would you sell that boar I sold you for $xxxxxxx. I sure as hell would welcome the offer. So what do you think. Keep in mind I never asked for the buyers contact info so I could "bother" the buyer myself.
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Call me cynical, but I grew up playing pool for money with used car salesmen:).

First off, did the seller you contacted know who you are and/or your reputation
for "going off" for high dollar cues?

If he didn't - his response reminds me of someone who is afraid you might be
competition 'fishing' for a high dollar cue buyer.

Dale
 
No Harm

Since you did not ask for the current owner's contact info, there was no harm in your inquiry.

Beyond that I agree with Phil Dade.

I would not own one of my most special cues had I not contacted the original seller to track down the cue.

Sometimes you have to chalk-it-up to karma and what is supposed to be.
 
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Some buyers are very touchy and some sellers might not like to "re-open" a sale due to the buyer thinking that they made a mistake selling it to them and can actually get more money for the cue from someone new inquiring about it... Don't matter whether or not you let the deal happen between the new owner and "seeker". The new owner could think there's a kick on the back end for the original seller once the deal is done. THAT could seem shady to them and they may not be a repeat customer.

With anything collectible, owners can be a strange breed and very private.

For me, I wouldn't want to have the rep of selling cues only to bother the buyer for a resale nor would I want to be bothered by a former seller inquiring if the cue they just sold me was for sale....

As for the attitude that someone can EVENTUALLY get what they want, well if any of my cues are involved, it ain't all about who has the most $. It's whom I want to have them... ;)

Skins -------------- thinks bullshit has a vocabulary too
 
The cue salesman is wrong I would never do business with him ever again, Nasty

What's was the harm for him to ask the customer if he would be interested in selling it Nothing that's what !


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JCIN said:
Nothing wrong with asking. The response you got seems a little short sighted for a guy who sells cues. My guess is a miscommunication. Maybe what he thought he heard was you asking him to tell you who the buyer was and did not fully understand what you were actually asking him to do.

Or the guy is just goofy and doesn't understand how to keep a dwindling customer base interested in what he sells.

EDIT: It always does kind of amuse me how some guys treat cue deals like nuclear secrets though. I suspect its often done so as not to spook the fish.
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nail on head. you would get rep if I did not burn it all up yesterday.
 
How did this tooic reach 3 pages?

You can ask anything you want and the party whom you ask can respond in any manner he chooses.

You asked, you got your answer. who cares if the guy is right or wrong, or what a 3rd party thinks?

You cant have it. Move along.
 
I would guess the seller had a bad day, and maybe he caught you at a sensitive moment. I can think of one or two guys that might have reacted that way but in general those same guys have gone out of their way to answer some of my tedious questions. I'd ask again. Sometimes I'm a kicker and some days I'm a buyer. But I'm always interested.

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Black-Balled said:
How did this tooic reach 3 pages?

You can ask anything you want and the party whom you ask can respond in any manner he chooses.

You asked, you got your answer. who cares if the guy is right or wrong, or what a 3rd party thinks?

You cant have it. Move along.
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"How did this tooic reach 3 pages?"
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Uhhh - It is a topic people are interested in.

You aren't empowered to stop it just because you don't like it...
Move along.

Dale
 
Cue sales are a private transaction. Respect for someone's privacy is of the utmost importance in how I roll. The person who contacted me I know nothing of and never has made any kind of purchase. Their asking me to help them invade a valued customers privacy doesnt sit well with me then or now. The last thing I want to do is create a disturbance or annoyance for a valued customer. I suppose if knew the individual well enough (as I do you Phil) there is a possibility that I would contact the original buyer---but it would still depend a lot on how I think the info would be received by the original owner. In many cases I would still not approach the original buyer. I realize lots of people don't have a sense of personal boundaries or propriety. That doesn't mean that I'm going to abandon my business and personal ethics, even if they come and cry on AZB! The OP had several weeks where they could have purchased the cue straightaway. Best of luck to all with their analyses here!


phil dade said:
Hi Guys,

Actually I am quite surprised that the dealer did not at least contact the purchaser to present the option of flipping the cue for a profit, even suspecting that the buyer was not the type of person to flip. Here is why. It validates the fact that the dealer gave him a good buy! It validates the fact that the cue is desired.

I have posted cues in threads or the gallery. When I get unsolicited PM's wanting to buy the cue, it makes you feel good about what you have. I am not a flipper but when I go to sell any of these cues, I would like to see them go to someone who appreciates them like I do.

I think I would reapproach the dealer using the approach I suggested. After thinking he just might see this logic.

All the best Michael,

Phil
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jazznpool said:
Cue sales are a private transaction. Respect for someone's privacy is of the utmost importance in how I roll. The person who contacted me I know nothing of and never has made any kind of purchase. Their asking me to help them invade a valued customers privacy doesnt sit well with me then or now. The last thing I want to do is create a disturbance or annoyance for a valued customer. I suppose if knew the individual well enough (as I do you Phil) there is a possibility that I would contact the original buyer---but it would still depend a lot on how I think the info would be received by the original owner. In many cases I would still not approach the original buyer. I realize lots of people don't have a sense of personal boundaries or propriety. That doesn't mean that I'm going to abandon my business and personal ethics, even if they come and cry on AZB! The OP had several weeks where they could have purchased the cue straightaway. Best of luck to all with their analyses here!
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I think the jist of what everyone is saying is that a polite "No" or some other short explanation other than being a dick about it would have been nice..
 
Agree with everyone else, the seller should have dealt with you in a more professional manner. My approach as an interested buyer would have been to let the seller know should the cue ever come back to him that it will have a buyer waiting. That has worked in my favor more than once. Patience is a virtue in cue collecting. Best of luck.

Paul
 
jazznpool said:
Cue sales are a private transaction. Respect for someone's privacy is of the utmost importance in how I roll. The person who contacted me I know nothing of and never has made any kind of purchase. Their asking me to help them invade a valued customers privacy doesnt sit well with me then or now. The last thing I want to do is create a disturbance or annoyance for a valued customer. I suppose if knew the individual well enough (as I do you Phil) there is a possibility that I would contact the original buyer---but it would still depend a lot on how I think the info would be received by the original owner. In many cases I would still not approach the original buyer. I realize lots of people don't have a sense of personal boundaries or propriety. That doesn't mean that I'm going to abandon my business and personal ethics, even if they come and cry on AZB! The OP had several weeks where they could have purchased the cue straightaway. Best of luck to all with their analyses here!
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Hi Martin,
As I said, I think anyone would feel good that the cue was desired and that someone was willing to pay more. :) However, maybe the paying more was presumed by me and not established:confused:. Michael is a great guy and I am the friend who told him how great the maker of the cue, cues played. :grin: My intent was meant positive getting it out there as I see some interesting merry widows are available and surely hit like mine.
All the best,
Phil
 
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