How about this shot by Alcano ?

jsp said:
Folks, look at the path of the CB. How can anyone say it was a straight cut shot by looking at where the CB went after impact with the OB?

I'm not sure if it was a kick shot or a double-kiss, but one thing is certain. The CB hit the OB after hitting the rail. So it was anything but a straight cut shot.
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No it didn't. Just set it up and cut it with some low right english and you'll make it do exactly like he did.
 
jsp said:
Folks, look at the path of the CB. How can anyone say it was a straight cut shot by looking at where the CB went after impact with the OB?

I'm not sure if it was a kick shot or a double-kiss, but one thing is certain. The CB hit the OB after hitting the rail. So it was anything but a straight cut shot.
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I thought it kissed at first but after watching it a few times it didn't. He cut it in, almost like it hits the rail at the same time it hits the cue.

Def a GREAT shot though. Lol at thinking otherwise.
 
jsp said:
I'm not sure if it was a kick shot or a double-kiss, but one thing is certain. The CB hit the OB after hitting the rail. So it was anything but a straight cut shot.
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Nope. You can't get the cueball to go straight across the table like that by kicking that ball in the corner.
 
I first learned this shot watching a couple random girls play over 10 years ago.

I saw the girl make it,even though she had NO clue what she just did.

It took a while to get the speed down,but I figured it out,and added it to the arsenal. I've even played position on this shot a few times,it comes in handy playing bar box 8-ball. Tommy D.
 
PoolBum said:
Great shot. When he gets down to line up the shot he's checking to see if he has enough room to cut the ball, which is what he did (in other words, he didn't go rail first.).
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I agree pure cut - cue ball to side rail then across table and back for shape. Very nice shot.
 
Correct. It looks more difficult than it really is. Pocket is very wide open at that approach angle..

Fatboy said:
he cut it to the pocket he had, there was nothing special about that shot, it was the only pocket it played straight into, granted its a tuff shot, its far from amazing, he hit a pretty full ball, and wasnt far from his work. It aint easy but nothing fancy either, good shot. it wasnt thin at all, he hit 1/3 of the OB or more, look atthe angle of the shot, ignore the rails-its a optical illusion.
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scsuxci said:
I'm with you on this.Maybe its my erratic shape play but I've had to do
that shot plenty of times.Its a nice long pot,but nothing amazing.It
might of been just a visual thing cause it looked good but not difficult,
specially for a guy like Ronnie.
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Yeah, I've had to shoot that shot a bunch of times too.

I've never made it...but I've had to shoot it.

What safe would you have shot? It's not like he's got a wall of balls in the lower right quadrant. Could he hit the 3 so thin that he runs between the 4 and the 9?
 
I didnt realize we had so many Pro's on all of AZ much less having them all in one thread :D

Anyone that thinks that is a run of the mill shot is not thinking correctly.


But I will say that one of the most enjoyable tournaments I ever saw was a "miss equals BIH" tournament. Some really creative and good shot in that one
 
It appeared to me he could have easily slid the OB under the ball above it on the rail and locked the cue ball up against it said ball.

bdorman said:
Yeah, I've had to shoot that shot a bunch of times too.

I've never made it...but I've had to shoot it.

What safe would you have shot? It's not like he's got a wall of balls in the lower right quadrant. Could he hit the 3 so thin that he runs between the 4 and the 9?
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Hungarian said:
It appeared to me he could have easily slid the OB under the ball above it on the rail and locked the cue ball up against it said ball.
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I don't think that shot is there. First, there's very little room between that ball and the cushion, so you run the risk of having the OB bump it going by. Second, he's got an angle between the cue ball and the ball he's shooting, so he can't just roll straight up toward that ball near the cushion. Finally, to get the cueball to travel that far up behind that ball on the cushion you have to hit the OB too hard so you run the risk of bringing it back up table too far.
 
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Neil said:
It's not a kick, it's not a double kiss, it's just a straight shot to the corner. It's a good shot, but not anything amazing. It's an open shot to that pocket. I guess I just don't understand all the amazement about it. :confused:
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It is a double kiss. The second kiss is what kept made the CB come back across the table instead of following a similar path of the object ball. Turn up you speakers, and you can hear the "click click" from the CB hitting the OB before AND after the rail. Amazing shot? no. Amazing that he got the CB back to that spot by playing the double kiss? yes.
 
macneilb said:
It is a double kiss. The second kiss is what kept made the CB come back across the table instead of following a similar path of the object ball. Turn up you speakers, and you can hear the "click click" from the CB hitting the OB before AND after the rail. Amazing shot? no. Amazing that he got the CB back to that spot by playing the double kiss? yes.
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All it takes is a bit of draw on the cueball to keep it from going up table.
 
Yes it was a simple shot but it was far from easy. That shot did not have to go in but he nailed it. I wonder how many world champs we have on AZ sometimes.
 
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Upon further review, and based upon the way the balls appear to lay I do believe he could have slid the OB past the ball above and obtained cover. I do agree with you that he could not have gotten the CB to roll up and freeze. This would have been a fairly weak safety and that's probably why he opted for the tough cut.

PoolBum said:
I don't think that shot is there. First, there's very little room between that ball and the cushion, so you run the risk of having the OB bump it going by. Second, he's got an angle between the cue ball and the ball he's shooting, so he can't just roll straight up toward that ball near the cushion. Finally, to get the cueball to travel that far up behind that ball on the cushion you have to hit the OB too hard so you run the risk of bringing it back up table too far.
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All I know is I almost popped a contact lense, obviously I thought he was going to slide the ball along the rail....great stroke, great speed, great shape. Other than that just another shot.

Will
 
I played Ronnie some even one pocket here in Vegas a week back...Efren was his coach and it did not turn out well for me, haha. Ronnie runs balls fantastically and with Efren coaching my moving knowledge did not make a big difference although I did steal some games from him. It was a fun match to play against him cheaply. :)
 
ibuycues said:
All I know is I almost popped a contact lense, obviously I thought he was going to slide the ball along the rail....great stroke, great speed, great shape. Other than that just another shot.

Will
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yeah it was a great shot, for sure, but it aint as difficult as it looks, if you shoot the same shot pocket speed-it dont look like much, the fact he hit it pretty firm makes it look more impressive. Its one of those "looks harder than it is shots". And the pocket plays big for it.
 
It double kissed, didn't it? it looked to me as if he cut it real quick then it also got kicked very quickly, nonetheless a great shot
 
Fast Lenny said:
I played Ronnie some even one pocket here in Vegas a week back...Efren was his coach and it did not turn out well for me, haha. Ronnie runs balls fantastically and with Efren coaching my moving knowledge did not make a big difference although I did steal some games from him. It was a fun match to play against him cheaply. :)
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i think you got double steered :p;):embarrassed2:
 
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