How Do the Pros Aim

Me:
You have to try to be more clear if you want me to understand (and pay attention to) your questions.
C.Milian:
Do what u want
Obviously I will, and so will you. My advice is for the remote possibility that when you ask me questions you might actually want an answer. If that's not what you want then you're doing fine.

pj
chgo
 
Obviously I will, and so will you. My advice is for the remote possibility that when you ask me questions you might actually want an answer. If that's not what you want then you're doing fine.

pj
chgo

But its you that wants me to do the unnecassary.
 
Aiming

I don't think they know the "secret". They see the angle, they get down, and they shoot. Its called talent.
 
I would guess a lot aim by ghostball or as they call, "feel". While a lot of others us fraction aiming. A lot of those guys from the Philippines use some funky pivot thing that I don't understand.
 
C.Milian:
its you that wants me to do the unnecassary.
I don't want you to do anything. My advice is so you can get what people normally want when they ask questions - answers.

I've given you this advice more than once, but you don't seem to like it. OK, I'll just ignore you if I don't understand you (which is most of the time). No problem.

pj
chgo
 
I don't want you to do anything. My advice is so you can get what people normally want when they ask questions - answers.

I've given you this advice more than once, but you don't seem to like it. OK, I'll just ignore you if I don't understand you (which is most of the time). No problem.

pj
chgo

I do not need answers. When I do I will seek those that has them and ask nicely. I may even make an offering in exchange for the reserved knowledge. So don't worry about me....I will get by. I once had to hunt down my instructors pet chicken. You just do what you want...when I need to know cit...I will ask u.
 
I've been wanting to ask these questions for a long time and I thought the forum might be a good place to get some answers.

Do the pro players know a secret about how to aim or do they all do it the way that suits them best?

They have to know something that most of the rest of us do not know. Pro players make the game look so easy. I've had many discussions with a friend of mine about how pro players make the game look so easy and we've yet to come up with an answer. If you know exactly where to aim every shot then it boils down to execution of the fundamentals.

I'd love to hear some thoughts on why the game looks so easy when we watch the pros play. Is it hours and hours of practice, natural ability, or do they really know a secret about aiming?

James

Ha as much as I've been around some of the top ones, that's one thing they never wanna share!
 
I know a couple top players who use aiming systems, they might tell people about it or show it. Shane mentioned a stick aiming that he uses, sounds like the shaft method I have been using that I was taught about a year or so ago. People are curious how I improved so much, about a 2 ball or more improvement and I told them I learned a method and am pocketing balls so much better now. There is a big thing between knowing where to hit the ball and guessing, feel players have hit so many balls over the years they just know and the guys who have been playing for a long time and still miss, well they never learned where to hit the ball. :cool:

P.S. Hand eye coordination does come into play here, some people are naturally better gifted then others.
 
Hi James :) I hope you are doing well.

I agree with most of what the others have said. To take it a little further the pros just dont have to shoot as many difficult shots as everyone else. They make less mistakes on the previous shot and get the right angels to perform there outs. If you watch one of the guys/gals in dead punch they are never more than 2 feet away in posistion and at the correct angel to get to the next ball. There execution is flawless shot after shot. The magic formula everyone is searching for is some natural ability and 40+ hours a week table time and there are no substitutes or shortcuts. This is all my opinion of course :thumbup:

-Britt
 
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Most pros can't or won't tell you their "secret" of aiming because there is no shortcut or magic trick, but I find it amusing how many can be developed to sell a DVD. I think everyone develops curtain little tricks for different shots and that makes it hard to come up with one sure fire one all fits all.

Stan's DVD "Pro One' has a good method but even that one has many exceptions and it still takes practice. Even using this method there are too many other factors involved in making the shot. This helps to pocket a ball but it doesn't help if you want to position the OB in another place and doesn't work if you don't have a good stroke.


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I know a couple top players who use aiming systems, they might tell people about it or show it. Shane mentioned a stick aiming that he uses, sounds like the shaft method I have been using that I was taught about a year or so ago. People are curious how I improved so much, about a 2 ball or more improvement and I told them I learned a method and am pocketing balls so much better now. There is a big thing between knowing where to hit the ball and guessing, feel players have hit so many balls over the years they just know and the guys who have been playing for a long time and still miss, well they never learned where to hit the ball. :cool:

P.S. Hand eye coordination does come into play here, some people are naturally better gifted then others.

Great post Lenny.
 
Better than most of us.

It is not whatever system they may or may not use, it is the fact that they get the CB where they want. That is application of a system which is more important than the system. It is how well you uses the tools that matters.

I was joking around with some 3 cushion guys and made the comment that no matter what table I played badly on, that I was always there. But the same is true when I play good. It's all me, good or bad and not something outside me.
 
Better than most of us.

It is not whatever system they may or may not use, it is the fact that they get the CB where they want. That is application of a system which is more important than the system. It is how well you uses the tools that matters.

I was joking around with some 3 cushion guys and made the comment that no matter what table I played badly on, that I was always there. But the same is true when I play good. It's all me, good or bad and not something outside me.

That's the good thing about the game of pool. It's all you against the table. To avoid those few lucky roll by the other guy, just keep control of the table. Johnnyt
 
I know a couple top players who use aiming systems, they might tell people about it or show it. Shane mentioned a stick aiming that he uses, sounds like the shaft method I have been using that I was taught about a year or so ago. People are curious how I improved so much, about a 2 ball or more improvement and I told them I learned a method and am pocketing balls so much better now. There is a big thing between knowing where to hit the ball and guessing, feel players have hit so many balls over the years they just know and the guys who have been playing for a long time and still miss, well they never learned where to hit the ball. :cool:

P.S. Hand eye coordination does come into play here, some people are naturally better gifted then others.

Years ago when Shane passed through New Orleans, I asked him about a particular shot and he said "That is a quarter-ball shot", referring to fractional aiming. Don't know how he aims but that is what he said many years ago before he became the great champion of today.
 
That's the good thing about the game of pool. It's all you against the table. To avoid those few lucky roll by the other guy, just keep control of the table. Johnnyt

Did youj ever see the Movie Spirit of Sta Louis about Lindbergs fist flight crossing the Atlantic?
When asked how he would find Ireland he said"By dead reckoning"!
I think most players would subscribe to this theory too. I reckon if I hit it here it will go there!!!The secrets of the game are not abundant. Also what works for one doesn't work for everyone.
if we could have locked Mosconi and Efren in a room together, i doubt they would have agreed on everything. of Course that is obvious as Mosconi didn't agree with anyone on anything!! LOL
 
Years ago when Shane passed through New Orleans, I asked him about a particular shot and he said "That is a quarter-ball shot", referring to fractional aiming. Don't know how he aims but that is what he said many years ago before he became the great champion of today.

I was watching a segment of Clash of the Titans pool tournament on you tube. Alex P. vs. John Morra and Shane Van Boening was a guest commentator.

At some point in the match they were talking about aiming and Shane mentioned that he doesn't look at the cueball he just sees the tip of the cue stick. It was interesting to say the least.

Then they start talking about the break and Shane mentions playing a guy in Alabama in 2005 that had the best break ( 9ball) he'd ever seen.
He was spotting the guy the 7 ball but Shane admitted he (Shane) had no chance of winning the way this guy broke. Shane couldn't remember his name. Wonder who that was?
 
I was watching a segment of Clash of the Titans pool tournament on you tube. Alex P. vs. John Morra and Shane Van Boening was a guest commentator.

At some point in the match they were talking about aiming and Shane mentioned that he doesn't look at the cueball he just sees the tip of the cue stick. It was interesting to say the least.

Then they start talking about the break and Shane mentions playing a guy in Alabama in 2005 that had the best break ( 9ball) he'd ever seen.
He was spotting the guy the 7 ball but Shane admitted he (Shane) had no chance of winning the way this guy broke. Shane couldn't remember his name. Wonder who that was?

That comment by Shane about the other guy's 9 ball break is a hell of compliment coming from Shane. That guy must have been Shane's inspiration for improving his own break. :D
 
Some shooters have great spacial comprehension and can visualize the effects of the colliding spheres. Couple that with a great memory of angles, the results of shots and shape from the past to be recalled for a given circumstance - that would result in a superior shooter.

A straight stroke for repeated accurate execution to build confidence is also necessary to progress. I guess some call it "feel" or intuition.


Just sayin.
:smile:
 
I have known a couple of "Pros" in my time. None of which purported to have some "Mystical" secret of any kind be it aiming or otherwise. I have played with them, talked to them, befriended a few & observed them at length. Here are a couple of things I do know about the "Pros". They understand the game better on all levels than the average player. They are true students of the game. They are able to define their mistakes & they correct them. They are able to read a rack, develope & execute patterns. Define advantages & develope stratigies to employ them, ie: different break shots. Have a thorough understanding & the trained ability to execute safety play. They have spent countless hours perfecting the fundamentals of the game. Practice, drills, competive play. They have devloped the mental fortitude necessary to play at the competive level. The mental aspect cannot be overlooked. They have developed a supreme confidence that is born out of repitative execution. I recently spoke with my sister & I made the comment "That I was born with the God given talent to play pool" She corrected me by stating "You were not born with that talent, you developed it over years of playing, practice and damn hard work". That is the essence of my perspective on this subject. There are no big secrets, it is not a mystery, it's not magic. Merlin is not going to cast a spell and turn you into a pool player. It is a process that requires effort dedication (at times bordering on absolute obsession!) & time. Learn the fundamentals, apply them, practice,practice, practice, play, play, play, compete. Becomea student of the game every aspect of the game. Take qualified instruction where you can find it & apply that to your game. As for the "Pros" making it look easy. I am a professional roofer of over 40 years experience, I make that look easy. That's how it is supposed to be. I leave you with this, it was my living Mantra when I was coming up in the game. "I would find a player 1 ball better than me & I would keep coming at him until I could beat him. Then I would go find a player 1 ball beter than me!" Climb the ladder 1 rung at a time, but keep climbing!! Always challenge yourself never become complacent with your game. Believe in yourself! No one is capable of doing anything that you are not capable of, given the proper knowledge and the will to apply it. Good luck & good pool. Billy Bones:thumbup:

This is a great post and I think you hit it out of the park. Thanks so much for taking the time to post your thoughts about my pro pool player question.

James
 
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