How Do You Fade This Move?

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cuetechasaurus

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If you are gambling, or in a tournament playing cueball fouls only- Its hill-hill playing 9ball, and the 6, 7, 8 and 9 are left on the table. the 7, 8 and 9 are tied up in a cluster against a rail. Your opponent kicks at the 6ball and misses, and the cueball is going in the direction of the cluster of balls. He picks up the cueball before it breaks up the cluster and hands it to you. Is this loss of game?
 
It should be, just take it to the tournament director and hope they know what they are doing.
 
Under BCA rules, I think this would be ruled a deliberate foul. Is not loss of game but opponent would get BIH and the fouler would get an Unsportmanlike Conduct warning. A second UC warning would be loss of game when it occurs and a third loss of match.

Regardless of the official rules and penalty, that is really a low class move and in a gambling match might result in some painful physical penalty being inflicted
 
JohnnyT

cuetechasaurus said:
If you are gambling, or in a tournament playing cueball fouls only- Its hill-hill playing 9ball, and the 6, 7, 8 and 9 are left on the table. the 7, 8 and 9 are tied up in a cluster against a rail. Your opponent kicks at the 6ball and misses, and the cueball is going in the direction of the cluster of balls. He picks up the cueball before it breaks up the cluster and hands it to you. Is this loss of game?
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I'd consult JohnnyT about what to do here.

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JohnnyT says - "KILL THE M'F'ER" :D

I would consider shooting at the six with an angle to go into the cluster. Then just before the cue ball hits the cluster, grab it and hand it to your A-Hole opponent.......
 
pick up the 6 ball and put it in the cluster so he cant hit it hopefully and when he hands u the cue ball back then hand it back to him and tell him he is on 2. or he will have to break up the cluster trying to hit the 6.....either way a punch in the head will work also.
 
I would demand loss of game or unscrew. I don't play pool with cheaters.
 
Wow....I don't even know what I'd do. I mean it's one thing to sit here and think it over, but under the heat of the situation I'm not sure what I'd do or say. That's a tough one at best.

.......So now here's the real question:

What did YOU do? :p
 
That should be loss of that game if it was obvious that the cue ball was headed to that cluster with enough force to break it up. It may have been an unintended foul, but you should have still called it for what it was.
 
First thing I would do is slam the cue ball on the table and go to the washroom. Soak yourself with water and come out looking all tense and angry.

Come out make the 6 and on your followthrough break the cluster of balls open with the tip of your cue.

Stick handle the cue ball to make sure you have position.

When he approaches the table or tries to call a foul tell him "no, I had a foot on the ground and please stay in your seat and stop trying to shark me"

Then run out and say "nice try on kicking the 6, I knew when I got ball in hand there I was out for sure."

When he argues after tell him he shouldn't play when he's drunk and just keep saying "oh, you're just drunk.., admit it I'm just a better player than you."
 
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I just looked at the WPA rules which appear to be different from BCA rules in this case. BCAPL pretty clearly state that this intentional foul gives BIH to the opponent and a first warning for Unsportsmanlike Conduct. WPA rules seem to give give more latitude to the referee/TD and allow penalties from a warning all the way to disqualification from the tournament with loss of game and loss of match as possible intermediate steps
 
chazdillon said:
pick up the 6 ball and put it in the cluster so he cant hit it hopefully and when he hands u the cue ball back then hand it back to him and tell him he is on 2. or he will have to break up the cluster trying to hit the 6.....either way a punch in the head will work also.
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Interesting~!~
 
I'd Have To Agree With Randy

1.45 Unsportsmanlike Conduct (AR)
1. You must not commit any act which is unsportsmanlike in nature. This includes, but is not limited to, actions which are embarrassing, disruptive, or detrimental to other players, spectators, event officials, or the sport in general.
2. Players are responsible for their actions at all times while they are present at the event venue, whether playing or not.
3. Unsportsmanlike conduct is penalized at the discretion of the referee or other designated event officials. Penalties for unsportsmanlike conduct vary and are based upon the referee?s or event official?s judgment of the severity and nature of the unsportsmanlike act. Referees or event officials have the authority to penalize or disqualify, with or without warning, any player who acts in this manner.4. Unsportsmanlike conduct warnings and penalties required by rule carry forward only in regard to the specific rule violated. Unsportsmanlike conduct warnings and penalties related to conduct or behavior carry

If this was hill-hill, loss of game.....since that's exactly what the offender was trying to delay.
 
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