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[SpiderWebComm]

So, let me get this correct; If someone posts, that their all time record is running 3 racks on a 9' table, you instantly want them to make a video of them running 3 racks!! I realize you're challenged but does anything strange pop out about what you are asking for?

You could start with Colin's potting test on video. (watch the BS excuses come flying out right now.)

How about just 3 racks of 9 ball whether you run out or not. I'll know and we'll all know what level you are based on your CB speed and control, how you do or don't get the angles on your shots, and your pocket choices for remaining balls.

(watch the BS excuses come flying out again)

 

[Bobkitty]

You could start with Colin's potting test on video. (watch the BS excuses come flying out right now.)

How about just 3 racks of 9 ball whether you run out or not. I'll know and we'll all know what level you are based on your CB speed and control, how you do or don't get the angles on your shots, and your pocket choices for remaining balls.

(watch the BS excuses come flying out again)

You first! Let's see you running rack after rack and then we'll all acknowledge that the self appointed AZB BS detector is indeed a fine pool player. I will post something in the near future. Right now, I have company visiting and have not even uncovered the table for a week. By the way, everything I wrote about my past is true and correct. You've done your best to turn and twist it into something unbelievable when it was completely unremarkable in every way.

 

[SpiderWebComm]

You first! Let's see you running rack after rack and then we'll all acknowledge that the self appointed AZB BS detector is indeed a fine pool player.

I did Colin's potting test and it's been up there for the world to see for years. YOUR TURN!! I also didn't ask you to run rack after rack successfully to prove anything. I asked for 3 racks of 9 ball whether you ran out or not. The runout is of little importance. OK, lets make it 2.

I will post something in the near future.

We'll believe it when we see it but at this point expect NOTHING, EVER!

Right now, I have company visiting and have not even uncovered the table for a week.

I would have to assume this is your last post because your company really IS a more important place to spend your time. Then again, I don't think this will be your last post either.

By the way, everything I wrote about my past is true and correct. You've done your best to turn and twist it into something unbelievable when it was completely unremarkable in every way.

Yeh, Yeh. Just like Bernie Madoff walking out of the courtroom and all those years in jail claiming, "I never lied to those people or tried to hurt them. I did everything I could to make all of them rich with a high return on their investment. It's TRUE"!

Two statements WERE TRUE. Everything else was like millions of pieces of confetti raining down on a New York parade honoring a winning baseball or football team. I'm definitely NOT the only person who picked up on it and commented. Brian was the only one standing in your corner, maybe because he was an altar boy or Eagle Scout when he was young. All the rest of us know it's total Bullsh*t and have said so.

Your entire story after those true statements was easily shredded like paper into conffeti because it was a total fabrication lie because it didn't tie into the statements correctly. It became an afterthought addition to turn yourself into a more grandiose figure. No other way to phrase it.

Go tend to your company where you're wanted and be a gracious host. Do you think you can do that?

 

[BC21]

Give me a break! I don't know what kind of pool rooms you played in over the years but the ones I've been in had more trash talking, woofing, and nose to nose badgering than two world champion fighters doing a press conference to hype the up and coming fight on national TV.

Maybe you played in all the civil family pool rooms but I and I think a good number of others here played in some rough, tough rooms. Most of it was for show to begin with to get the edge for betting purposes as well as get into the other guy's head but it's all part of the game. Well, there was some pushing and shoving and an occasional punch thrown.

Been in some tough places myself, but the haggling and proding most often occurs between locals -- guys that know each other and know which buttons to push to get action going. A stranger walking in is typically not a target for this. That's what I'm saying. And honestly, I quit the bar scene to avoid the nits and trouble makers, finding most pool halls more friendly. There are still nits and mouth runners, but typically no one wants to fight if you win $50 from them. They might cry though, and ask for a bigger spot, which raises the stakes, and then we got action. If that doesn't sound like the pool halls you visit, you must live in a very strange place.

 

[BC21]

I have played in several rooms where the talk is occassionally far worse than what goes on here, rooms where your fists have to be prepared to cash whatever checks your mouth writes. Even so, I'd agree that most pool players are friendly sorts and the majority of the verbal sparring that takes place is just that.

If you were alluding to me in your post, I'd agree what I said in a couple of my last posts was a tad harsh. But we all knew he was never going to play and that he was looking for the exit the second I invited him to play in STL. He even edited his original post deleting details of his visit to St. Louis and it was only because his original post was captured in a quote by someone else that I saw it.

I thought that after he committed he'd stay true to his word and at least play a few cheap sets and then pull up. But when he tried to put it on me -- attempting to make it sound as if I were trying to high roll him -- that got under my skin. I'm not interested in hammering him any more. It started out as good, clean fun but turned into something else when he repeatedly tried to maintain and defend the facade he'd created. He could have just said, "No thanks, I'm not that good." Would have saved us all a lot of time and gnashing of teeth.

Lou Figueroa

Not referring to you. But I liked the idea that a guy several states away could swing into town and hit some friendly sets with a fellow AZer. But when others get involved, those who have no reason to be in on the negotiation, that's when it all went to the mud.

 

[SpiderWebComm]

Been in some tough places myself, but the haggling and proding most often occurs between locals -- guys that know each other and know which buttons to push to get action going. A stranger walking in is typically not a target for this. That's what I'm saying. And honestly, I quit the bar scene to avoid the nits and trouble makers, finding most pool halls more friendly. There are still nits and mouth runners, but typically no one wants to fight if you win $50 from them. They might cry though, and ask for a bigger spot, which raises the stakes, and then we got action. If that doesn't sound like the pool halls you visit, you must live in a very strange place.

That's not what you said or were saying in the post I responded to which was this:

"In most pool rooms only the mouth-runners act like teenage girls, always pointing and giggling and talking trash about the fat girls. Lol.

I may be a new AZ member, but I'm no newbie to pool forums and real pool rooms. With the exception of normal pool hall negotiation language, and friendly jabs at each other, I've never been in a real pool room with as many negative, disrespectful, in-your-face style characters as I've noticed here in this fine forum. I realize it's easy to be obnoxious online, but in a real-life setting some of the comments and accusations here would result in violence.

So now you're saying there IS FACE TO FACE HEAVY DUTY TRASH TALKING among the locals, which is the case.

I've never seen it happen but I've read in some pool books where a strong road player has walked into a strange pool room and caught everyone's attention by bellowing out to the top of his lungs, "I'll play anybody in this room any game for
xxx dollars. Want to form a line?"

Sorry Brian, but you haven't been around this pool forum long enough to see the real stuff that goes on or have a clue. The most recent and epic one that went for at least a full year was Lou and JB woofing at each other for a match and just about every member on here piling on with more trash talk and hostility to the two combatants or other members. You haven't a clue if you never read those.

 

[SpiderWebComm]

Not referring to you. But I liked the idea that a guy several states away could swing into town and hit some friendly sets with a fellow AZer. But when others get involved, those who have no reason to be in on the negotiation, that's when it all went to the mud.

Others got involved by the hundreds when Lou and JB were trying to get a match. This place was like the floor of the New York Stock Exchange every day with all the action and hollering.

Didn't stop it from happening or turn to mud.

I have an idea for you that should be a BIG HIT when you're on stage playing. Write a song from the heart about yourself called, "THE VOICE OF REASON".

I don't even want any money from the royalties for the idea. Just make sure to mention my name in honor of me each time you sing it.

 

[BC21]

You better get a new book daddy.
(These pages from Mosconi's little book are quite simple to locate on Google, thereby demonstrating my point.)
Mosconi states under Sighting The Object Ball
"Most players, even beginners, can sight an object ball with relation to the angle of aim and shoot the ball into the pocket. However, all shots can be figured mathematically, so to speak, so let's leave nothing to chance." (emphasis mine). Fig. 38 explains our point.
Then we see the photo showing 6 lines of hits.
Next he presents the time worn line drawing chart showing the fractional hits for full, 3/4 right, 1/2 right, 1/4 right, thin on right side. If that's not arithmetic/ mathematic type thinking I don't know what it is. (And I don't believe he did any of it in action, either...it was just good as a filler to help sell books)
Very similiar to the gobbledy-gook presented in that sterling epic "Poolology"...only it gets even more complex in there with something new to study and remember, "zones" on the table. Man oh man....put me back on the tip jar.
I showed the "Poolology" to a few of the hitters over at the Huntsville tournament this past weekend. To the man, they found it laughable. As I've stated, in my opinion, you're not qualified to preach on this subject.

I don't have to Google it. Instead of cherry-picking to make a false point, how about reading Mosconi's words. The fractions are shown ONLY for the purpose of illustrating what cut shots look like with reference to CB and OB contact. Here: (fig.40 shows basic 1/4 fractions, no aiming lines)http://forums.azbilliards.com/picture.php?albumid=2260&pictureid=17209

 

[Bobkitty]

I have played in several rooms where the talk is occassionally far worse than what goes on here, rooms where your fists have to be prepared to cash whatever checks your mouth writes. Even so, I'd agree that most pool players are friendly sorts and the majority of the verbal sparring that takes place is just that.

If you were alluding to me in your post, I'd agree what I said in a couple of my last posts was a tad harsh. But we all knew he was never going to play and that he was looking for the exit the second I invited him to play in STL. He even edited his original post deleting details of his visit to St. Louis and it was only because his original post was captured in a quote by someone else that I saw it.

I thought that after he committed he'd stay true to his word and at least play a few cheap sets and then pull up. But when he tried to put it on me -- attempting to make it sound as if I were trying to high roll him -- that got under my skin. I'm not interested in hammering him any more. It started out as good, clean fun but turned into something else when he repeatedly tried to maintain and defend the facade he'd created. He could have just said, "No thanks, I'm not that good." Would have saved us all a lot of time and gnashing of teeth.

Lou Figueroa

Lou, I have no idea where this went off track. I think when Dave (Spidy) stuck his nose in trying his best to make everything I post some kind of bragging lie. I was hoping to meet you and OnepocketJohn in STL for some friendly pool games of one type or another. NOT a challenge! BUT, somehow it turned into this big challenge match and that was not my intention. I can shoot a fair game of 9 ball but as I stated, my talent lies in instantly recognizing someone better and at that time, I'll congratulate them and I will have no further interest in gambling in UNFAIR bets just to hand over my money. I'll post a Youtube video showing me playing 9 ball and if I'm not up to your level for even some fun and cheap races, you can decline.

 

[Dan White]

Very similiar to the gobbledy-gook presented in that sterling epic "Poolology"...only it gets even more complex in there with something new to study and remember, "zones" on the table. Man oh man....put me back on the tip jar.
I showed the "Poolology" to a few of the hitters over at the Huntsville tournament this past weekend. To the man, they found it laughable. As I've stated, in my opinion, you're not qualified to preach on this subject.

Low500, did you buy the book, Poolology?

 

[Bobkitty]

Low500, did you buy the book, Poolology?

Good Question! Let's find out if he was qualified to explain Poolology to anyone. It's not something you can just show someone in two minutes and get a valid response. I own the book, have read it cover to cover, and have memorized the diamond values for the different zones. WITH all of that information, it would still take me 15-20 minutes to demonstrate and explain a small part of it to someone in order to get fair feedback.

 

[BC21]

Low500, did you buy the book, Poolology?

My bet is NO. Low500 would have no need for it, as he has explicitly endorsed CTE. So even if he has a copy of Poolology, and passed it around to his CTE pals, I'm sure they did have a good laugh at the simplicity of it. Not everything can be as professional and accurate as CTE, yet still remain a mysterious phenomena. I just can't figure out, if Poolology is so laughable, why Low500 continues these futile attempts to discredit the book and its creator.

 

[BC21]

That's not what you said or were saying in the post I responded to which was this:

"In most pool rooms only the mouth-runners act like teenage girls, always pointing and giggling and talking trash about the fat girls. Lol.

I may be a new AZ member, but I'm no newbie to pool forums and real pool rooms. With the exception of normal pool hall negotiation language, and friendly jabs at each other, I've never been in a real pool room with as many negative, disrespectful, in-your-face style characters as I've noticed here in this fine forum. I realize it's easy to be obnoxious online, but in a real-life setting some of the comments and accusations here would result in violence.

So now you're saying there IS FACE TO FACE HEAVY DUTY TRASH TALKING among the locals, which is the case.

I've never seen it happen but I've read in some pool books where a strong road player has walked into a strange pool room and caught everyone's attention by bellowing out to the top of his lungs, "I'll play anybody in this room any game for
xxx dollars. Want to form a line?"

Sorry Brian, but you haven't been around this pool forum long enough to see the real stuff that goes on or have a clue. The most recent and epic one that went for at least a full year was Lou and JB woofing at each other for a match and just about every member on here piling on with more trash talk and hostility to the two combatants or other members. You haven't a clue if you never read those.

I said what I said and stand by every word. What you call "heavy duty trash talking" I called "negotiation language". If you talk to strangers in pool halls, any pool hall, the way you do here in this forum, I have no doubt you've had your share of front-row seats to trouble. But that says more about your glowing personality than it says about any typical pool hall. Lol

 

[Bobkitty]

I've been on here for 11 years. Never made up lies, boasted about playing, and printed all the false hoods that you have.

If I had, EVERYONE on here would have been on my case like the stink on dog
crap. It's NEVER happened. But it's happened with you because a bunch of guys, not just me, can smell bull crap 10 miles away and that's why you're getting hammered from every direction.

I have made videos for shot accuracy and execution like in Colin's potting test or others, I have made videos about how to pivot and other areas regarding CTE or 90/90 for the BENEFIT of those interested and wanting to learn more.

Where are your videos? All you end up doing is make excuse after excuse as to why you won't do them.

Everyone used to call Fast Larry a FRAUD. Now we have you.

Let's see one falsehood that I've posted.

 

[SpiderWebComm]

Let's see one falsehood that I've posted.

You have company staying with you and need to spend time with them instead of here.

More BULLSH*T because here you are once again.

I guess you're company is a dog who you're watching for somebody else.

YOUR POST: "I will post something in the near future. Right now, I have company visiting and have not even uncovered the table for a week. By the way, everything I wrote about my past is true and correct."

Actually, that's TWO FALSEHOODS IN ONE SENTENCE AND POSSIBLY THREE. YET TO BE DETERMINED WHETHER YOU POST 9 BALL VIDEOS OF YOU SHOOTING ON YOUTUBE IN THE NEAR FUTURE AS YOU TOLD LOU.

If you DO HAVE COMPANY, you're a miserably poor HOST by constantly being here posting.

 

[SpiderWebComm]

I said what I said and stand by every word. What you call "heavy duty trash talking" I called "negotiation language".

Negotiation language, huh? LMAO. Doesn't get more watered down and sissified than that.


If you talk to strangers in pool halls, any pool hall, the way you do here in this forum, I have no doubt you've had your share of front-row seats to trouble.

After 24 years of being in pool rooms I'm still going strong and have never been in a fight. You think you have no doubt but you don't nor any insight. Like I said in an earlier post, clueless.

But that says more about your glowing personality than it says about any typical pool hall. Lol

I know for a fact I have a far, far greater share of friends and allies here than haters. Do I have haters? Absolutely and proud of it.
Are you becoming a hater Brian?

 

[BC21]

I know for a fact I have a far, far greater share of friends and allies here than haters. Do I have haters? Absolutely and proud of it.
Are you becoming a hater Brian?

Absolutely not. I feel I could hang out with you and not be offended by anything you say. I have best friends that speak their mind openly. Sometimes we argue about from religion to politics, then we shoot pool and drop all the bs that really doesn't amount to much besides opposing opinions. I get along with most everyone because I try not not to carry grudges or needless stress around. We can argue today and have a beer tonight like the argument never happened. It annoys my wife, as she'd like to stay mad at me a little longer sometimes.

Hey, and I don't always keep my mouth shut when I should.....One time I was watching and listening to this guy trying to negotiate a game with Larry Price. If Larry didn't have a lock he wouldn't play, not with his own cash anyway. The guy wanted the 7 ball and Price kept saying "you gotta play for somethin!". I wanted the guy to at least get the 8 so I could use his deal to get me a deal later on. So I said to Price, give him the 7 and race to 5 for $100, or give him the 8 and race to 7 for 2 or 3 hundred. I was just trying to get it going. Price looked over and said, "What the f@# you got in this game?" I said, "My interest." He told me to stay out of it. I laughed, but never said another word. Not because I didn't want to, but out of respect for Price.

 

[cookie man]

Lou, I have no idea where this went off track. I think when Dave (Spidy) stuck his nose in trying his best to make everything I post some kind of bragging lie. I was hoping to meet you and OnepocketJohn in STL for some friendly pool games of one type or another. NOT a challenge! BUT, somehow it turned into this big challenge match and that was not my intention. I can shoot a fair game of 9 ball but as I stated, my talent lies in instantly recognizing someone better and at that time, I'll congratulate them and I will have no further interest in gambling in UNFAIR bets just to hand over my money. I'll post a Youtube video showing me playing 9 ball and if I'm not up to your level for even some fun and cheap races, you can decline.

No offense but this makes it sound like you have no heart." Your talent is recognizing someone better than you" so you quickly pull up = no heart

 

[cookie man]

Low500, did you buy the book, Poolology?

How else would he get it

 

[Dan White]

How else would he get it

I don't believe he/she bought one. The only other way is by bootlegging.