Or quit? You are in a match where you are losing bad, and you need to adjust the game with weight for you or you quit. How long do you play before you ask for an adjustment?
Regards,
Lock N Load.
Regards,
Lock N Load.
How many sets do you play if you are in a bad game, before you ask for an adjustment
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If its close I go for two set cheap to feel them out. If I'm playing good and getting beat after the second set ill ask for a spot. If we can't come to an agreement for a spot I cut my losses and quit down. Better to lose a small amount (or what your willing to lose) than to stay in a game you can't win.
I primarily play one pocket and if I am playing someone I have never played before I will often agree with them to adjust a ball if either of us gets up 4 games before we ever start. If I know my opponent or am playing for more than 25 a game I will just take my beating for the night and I generally play 4 or 5 or sometimes 10 more games than I should, just because I am not the sharpest spoon in the refrigerator when it comes to quitting.
I never ask to adjust the night I am playing, I might ask for an adjustment the next time we play, but I don't agree with adjusting unless it is agreed to before we start playing. I have seen many occasions where someone wins 5 easy games adjusts one ball and loses the 5 plus more back.
-don
I never ask to adjust the night I am playing, I might ask for an adjustment the next time we play, but I don't agree with adjusting unless it is agreed to before we start playing. I have seen many occasions where someone wins 5 easy games adjusts one ball and loses the 5 plus more back.
-don
Usually iam always gambling with people i already know,so if i put my self in a bad game with someone i know,then i deserve to lose,but to answer your question MR.Lock,if a player walks in my pool room and we start playing (naturaly we would start even)and i can see that iam in a bad game and need a spot,i will never lose more then 2 sets n then ask for the weight that i think i need to win with,i wouldnt play someone i dont know for very much money,maybe 50 a set,but if iam playing someone that i know how they play and i believe i got a pretty good chance of winning or a very close game,i will bet it up,but there is nobody going to rob me playing pool out of a lot of money(when i had no chance from the begining)they r going to have to earn it!
And that my friend is a sucker!
Iam sorry,this is a sucker!
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MY WET DREAM.................LOL
MY WET DREAM.................LOL
The problem is unless a player out right tromps you, how do you know that you have seen his best?
The game goes on. He loses the set badly after adjustment. Your even? Okay, you lose your weight. Your playing heads up again. He suggests that since its going back and forth you increase the bet. He plays just good enough to win. You think you should have won.You lose 2 more sets playing even. He says he feels bad so he gives you the weight back. He just beats you 2 more sets. Should you ask for more weight or pull up or what?
He says he's just playing over his head and he buys you and your girl a drink. Tells you he'll give you the break too so you can get even. Nice guy. And on and on.
That's fun stuff. Mind you I have never been good enough to pull that off but I'll bet that some of you out there recognize the script.
So, the answer is: There ain't no answer. He knows your top game because your losing. You might not have seen his best yet so only he knows how much he can give up and still win..
The game goes on. He loses the set badly after adjustment. Your even? Okay, you lose your weight. Your playing heads up again. He suggests that since its going back and forth you increase the bet. He plays just good enough to win. You think you should have won.You lose 2 more sets playing even. He says he feels bad so he gives you the weight back. He just beats you 2 more sets. Should you ask for more weight or pull up or what?
He says he's just playing over his head and he buys you and your girl a drink. Tells you he'll give you the break too so you can get even. Nice guy. And on and on.
That's fun stuff. Mind you I have never been good enough to pull that off but I'll bet that some of you out there recognize the script.
So, the answer is: There ain't no answer. He knows your top game because your losing. You might not have seen his best yet so only he knows how much he can give up and still win..
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I try to not adjust during a session.I will quit if its a bad game and ask for a spot the next time if ever.
Even if you get an ass whuppin, you still might not have seen his best!
I play 0. I already know I am in a bad game so I get the spot to start...:shrug:
That's right. you never know a player's top speed unless you beat him twice.
I have no idea what user manual you got, but that logic isn't in mine/.
I other words, unless the guy promises to lose you don't go for more then 2 sets? What happens if you get up two sets and he wants to adjust? And then if he gets even do you want to adjust again? What even happened to just playing a game. Heck, sometimes you can play all night and never be ahead and the next night come back and win. You have to play enough of the game to test it before you decide you want out, otherwise, what is the point of playing at all; just play by yourself. You know, sometimes you don't always win.
I wanted to come back and say, this is not a personal attack. I am curious, what is the point of playing? As far as I am concerned it is my hobby and if I lose a few bucks so what. I give more weight then I should all the time and I don't always lose and have a good tough game. That is why I play, to compete. In a tournament most players lose, should they not play? Like I said, it is my hobby and one of the cheapest I have ever had. Want to hear about when I was into boats. Players need a different perspective of why they play in the first place.
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So the general consensus is TWO sets? Really? You really think two sets tell you if you can win or not, or is everyone just so scared to lose that they won't try any more than that?
The people telling others they are suckers if they lose more than this are the ones who are out there looking for suckers. No one makes sense....
I play even and if I lose, I evaluate whether I played poorly or am just outmatched. If the latter, I usually will play the person again even just to try and play better, but it takes a lot for me to ask for weight. When I was growing up, I would just go play someone a little better than me until I could beat them... then move on up the ladder.
Here is a good game I had the other night and it shows some class:
I was playing a guy I have known for about 10 years some cheap $10 a game, giving the last 3. I got up 6 games right off the bat and he never quit or said a word about anything.. I got a little bored with the game, but my opponent kept fighting and ended up actually getting up a couple games.. This is great, someone who fights and doesn't complain if they are down a little. I ended up tightening up and came out ahead about 14 games. Anyways, I went to the room the next day and they guy wanted to play again with a small adjustment... This is how it should be... If you are losing, at least give yourself a chance to try and win. This guy's game has gone up about 3-4 balls in the last couple years because he has the guts to keep trying.
The people telling others they are suckers if they lose more than this are the ones who are out there looking for suckers. No one makes sense....
I play even and if I lose, I evaluate whether I played poorly or am just outmatched. If the latter, I usually will play the person again even just to try and play better, but it takes a lot for me to ask for weight. When I was growing up, I would just go play someone a little better than me until I could beat them... then move on up the ladder.
Here is a good game I had the other night and it shows some class:
I was playing a guy I have known for about 10 years some cheap $10 a game, giving the last 3. I got up 6 games right off the bat and he never quit or said a word about anything.. I got a little bored with the game, but my opponent kept fighting and ended up actually getting up a couple games.. This is great, someone who fights and doesn't complain if they are down a little. I ended up tightening up and came out ahead about 14 games. Anyways, I went to the room the next day and they guy wanted to play again with a small adjustment... This is how it should be... If you are losing, at least give yourself a chance to try and win. This guy's game has gone up about 3-4 balls in the last couple years because he has the guts to keep trying.
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I think you have to show a little heart and give yourself a chance to get in stroke/get some momentum/etc. Some people are slow starters and know they might lose the first few sets getting adjusted. Getting 5 sets/20 games stuck should tell you if you're in truly a bad game and require an adjustment. Just my opinion.
Hell yes. That is just smart management of the situation: if you win 2 and he wants to adjust then you know his threshold for the day. If you choose to give the spot after 2 sets, then after you get even you ask for an adjustment again or no mas. The same courtesty should be extended.
The # of sets is irrellevant, re managaemnt of situation, but I gree that 2 sets is generally not concrete evidence of a matchup's participants
And when was the last time you got a spot, much less played even any way? I am not sure you are qualified to speak on the matter of getting a spot, thank you, Sir. :bowdown: Please do not kill me.
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