The guy is clearly dominating the present day sport. He's just an amazing talent. How do you guys think history will judge Shane in terms of his status with the historic greats?
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How will history judge Shane - How will he stack up?
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He will stack up as one of the greats. He will be a hall of famer for sure.
40 years from now people will still talk about how he revolutionized the game with his break.
40 years from now there will still be people saying all he could do was break.
There will be some saying he was the best.
There will be some arguing he was not.
Pretty much the same as we do now about previous generations.
40 years from now people will still talk about how he revolutionized the game with his break.
40 years from now there will still be people saying all he could do was break.
There will be some saying he was the best.
There will be some arguing he was not.
Pretty much the same as we do now about previous generations.
That's really a hard question to answer, unless Shane has quit playing pool for the rest of his life
...otherwise he's still writing his history as a great player....while all those that you'd compare him to are either dead, or over the hill...in which case they can't do any better than what they've already been known to have done, while Shane is still going forward...winning as he goes. Ask this same question in about another 25 years or so, you'll get a much better comparison at that timeGlen
He has achieved a record, as of today to get in the hall of fame. But to say he is "clearly dominating the present day sport" is a significant over statement. IMHO. He is a member of a very small group that are the favorites in any event they play regardless of the game being played. Now (if this is important to him and that is really up to him) is the time to "complete the resume".... some significant wins over seas (World Championships) or winning a straight pool event or dominating a particular discipline or event say winning 3 US Open 9 ball titles in a row (something never done) would go a long way to further the argument of best of the best.
Dennis won the 1 pkt and was in the finals of the 10 ball. Being in 2 of the 3 finals for the US Open tournaments AND being in 2 of the 2 finals of the events entered is an example of not being dominated, but quite the opposite one could argue.
(he was not in the 8 ball but went to the World Games to represent his country, even though there are no cash pay outs -- just medals, honor and glory).
So yes.. one of the very best players in the world, a first tier pro, CLEARLY the best American player today... but is he "clearly" the best of best.?? The world is a BIG place ... and the dominance at that level is to be determined (as of today)..
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He has achieved a record, as of today to get in the hall of fame. But to say he is "clearly dominating the present day sport" is a significant over statement. IMHO. He is a member of a very small group that are the favorites in any event they play regardless of the game being played. Now (if this are import to him and that is really up to him) is the time to "complete the resume".... some significant wins over seas (World Championships) or winning a straight pool event or dominating a particular discipline or event say winning 3 US Open 9 ball titles in a row (something never done) would go a long way to further the argument of best of the best.
Dennis won the 1 pkt and was in the finals of the 10 ball. Being in 2 of the 3 finals for the US Open tournaments AND being in 2 of the 2 finals of the events entered is an example of not being dominated, but quite the opposite one could argue.
(he was not in the 8 ball but went to the World Games to represent his country, even though there are no cash pay outs -- just medals, honor and glory).
So yes.. one of the very best players in the world, a first tier pro, CLEARY the best American player today... but is he "clearly" the best of best.?? The world is a BIG place ... and the dominance at that level is to be determined (as of today)..
It's official, CLEARY has the title!! :thumbup:
Sorry not enough coffeeeeee this morning... :grin:
He has achieved a record, as of today to get in the hall of fame. But to say he is "clearly dominating the present day sport" is a significant over statement. IMHO. He is a member of a very small group that are the favorites in any event they play regardless of the game being played. Now (if this is important to him and that is really up to him) is the time to "complete the resume".... some significant wins over seas (World Championships) or winning a straight pool event or dominating a particular discipline or event say winning 3 US Open 9 ball titles in a row (something never done) would go a long way to further the argument of best of the best.
Dennis won the 1 pkt and was in the finals of the 10 ball. Being in 2 of the 3 finals for the US Open tournaments AND being in 2 of the 2 finals of the events entered is an example of not being dominated, but quite the opposite one could argue.
(he was not in the 8 ball but went to the World Games to represent his country, even though there are no cash pay outs -- just medals, honor and glory).
So yes.. one of the very best players in the world, a first tier pro, CLEARLY the best American player today... but is he "clearly" the best of best.?? The world is a BIG place ... and the dominance at that level is to be determined (as of today)..
I agree he is not the clear cut favorite in every turny he enters here and certainly is not on the world stage , right now I would say he's still got a ways to go to even be entered in a conversation of the best in history
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It was a play on the previous post typo that meant to say clearly, but left off the last L.
Of course he will be/is now ONE of the best in the world and the best in the USA. Will the rest of the American players catch up to him sending him sliding back in the top 10? Only time will tell that. I just hope he takes care of his winnings and doesn't die broke like 90% of American players do. Johnnyt
oops, I must not have had enough coffee myself. I thought your post was saying you didn't understand my post. But you were the previous poster. Duh on me!
Im sure here in America he will be considered one of the greats but unless he gets a few World Titles, the great majority of the pool playing world probably wont think of him at all in 60 years. The record books will still exist but few memories of Shane will remain.
I am not knocking him. He has accomplished plenty but so did Earl, Buddy,Johnny, Nick etc He will be in with those guys for sure.
I am not knocking him. He has accomplished plenty but so did Earl, Buddy,Johnny, Nick etc He will be in with those guys for sure.
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he is a great talent and really had little choice about that. he also has a great work ethic and is still learning.
i would bet he is still concerned with the future and not so much history, yet!
Good point! And I wonder...WHY do pool players spent countless hours honing their playing skills,
yet refuse to read even one simple book on saving and investing?
There is not much money to invest
read a book? If you have to do that, chances are you'll read the wrong one.
Here- free advice-pick a consistent amount of your earnings-10% is good-Put it in the bank. When the market crashes next time, move 80% slowly (20% per year) into a USA 'Growth' Mutual Fund manged by TRowe, Fidelity or Vanguard. Make steady contributions after that.
Seems like a weird topic to bring up at the moment. Shane just played 3 events. Two of them he finished in the high 20's. the last one he won in a final where he didn't play the best, and the tourney didnt include the guy who was probably the favorite. Going into this weekend I think Shane and his fans would have expected more. All around I would have expected him to finish higher.
No doubt Shane's one of the favorites in just about every tourney he's in. It's hard to place the guy in a future all times list when he might not be the best going now.
No doubt Shane's one of the favorites in just about every tourney he's in. It's hard to place the guy in a future all times list when he might not be the best going now.