how would ya hit it?
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Mike Andrews (RIP) would freeze a ball on the center diamond on each end of the table and jack up and spin that sucker in. I've seen him make that twice in a row numerous times. I can't remember if I've ever made it. He was always doing crazy shit like that...no look shots and such. He would enjoy this thread.
I accidentally hit your reply button. I was stating to the OP. I'll revise.
But even a pro would play safe on this shot half of the time. Depends on the game and situation.
Someone bet one of the better players in a local tournament on that shot. He lost the bet! It was lovely to watch.
Lots of side spin with a little draw:
Another variation of a classic Prop shot. I've seen it done and done it with the cue ball Frozen on the headrail on the center Diamond as well. 1 in 50 for a hundred bucks, LOL. I used to be able to do it in about 20 tries. Learned it from Mike Sigel back in the day.
Pretty easy 3 rail kick shot...... 
Here's another diagram from Knuchell's book (1970), which makes it pretty clear how he is saying to shoot it:
I have done the same but the CB was sitting on TOP of the end rail. I've probably shot it a hundred times but only made it less than a handful. By jacking up it gives the opportunity to masse the CB, the rail doesn't allow for this to happen, at least not very easily.
appreciate all the responses
I agree with those who'd hit the cb with inside, rail first- that's how *I'd* hit it
interestingly, the book ("international tournament pool") says different:
"you must aim to barely graze the object ball while giving the cue ball right hand english so that the object ball is thrown to the left into the pocket"
I agree with those who'd hit the cb with inside, rail first- that's how *I'd* hit it
interestingly, the book ("international tournament pool") says different:
"you must aim to barely graze the object ball while giving the cue ball right hand english so that the object ball is thrown to the left into the pocket"
I over cut it with lots of inside IMHO
Sorry if OB is on the rail, inside if off the rail over cut with inside again IMHO
Sorry if OB is on the rail, inside if off the rail over cut with inside again IMHO
tomatoshooter
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I like my chances spinning the cue ball off the rail into the object ball better.
"Jersey Joe" would do that one handed. Took about 50 tries.
We use to play the same shot.. Brunswick to brunswick, dead straight cue ball on top of the back rail, $10..00 a man.
We would draw pills to pick turns.
We would have 10 guys or more in. If we went through the rotation you threw another $10.00 in, repeatedly.
My buddy made it 4 times in a row.
The same guy made 7 balls on the break. He left the 7 and 9 ball both hanging in the side pockets. He was an inch away from breaking all 9 balls in.
I was playing him.
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Seems to me that at that shot distance, and at the speed you have to hit it to make it, outside english is going to have the cue ball still deflecting towards the object ball, not away from it as you suggest, and so you would have to adjust to avoid hitting hitting the object ball too full, not adjust to avoid missing it completely as you suggest.
On a side note, to answer the OP's question of what would you do, unless positional requirements force you to have to shoot it a different way, like everybody else I too would be going rail first with a good amount of inside. You have to be careful how you hit it though. If the cue ball separates from the object ball and has already sent it on its way while the cue ball is still in contact with the rail, there is a good chance the continuing action of the cue ball's spin on the rail will result in the cue ball taking a path towards the opposite corner pocket for a scratch. If the cue ball leaves the rail at the same time or just prior to losing contact with the object ball however, the cue ball will tend to follow the tangent line and go straight across the table and not flirt with the scratch. Missing the object ball on the way in by a microscopic hair is more likely to result in the former, and missing the object ball by just a bit more on the way in (i.e. spinning into it from a slightly further distance) is more likely to result in the latter.
LOL, I don't know if I've ever made it 4 times period.
Photo please... better yet, video....or it didn't happen...lol
How do you figure? Inside english is going to throw th CB away from the object ball.
Oh wait, I see, had to go back and look at the upside down pic lol, that has to be a misprint because 'right' wouldn't work at all regardless. Even throw wouldn't throw with that thin a cut even if you compensated for deflection into the OB. Ima go try and see lol.
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