How Would You Play This

Thanks for the shout-out Jude but there are of course lots of guys who play better bar table 8 ball than me. How many of them are like me and limit their bar table (and 8-ball, for that matter) play to exactly a 9 day period each year in May, I don't know...

;)

- Steve
 
I think that you were very fortunate and extremely lucky to have done what you did.

I think I would have kicked softly at the three to either pocket it or control that pocket. By kicking at it softly the chances of leaving the cue ball next to the short rail is high making his attempt at pocketing a ball a bit risky for min. Leaving him on the short rail may also limit his chances of pocketing your three ball and hooking you again. With the soft kick if you do pocket three ball you then will have a shot at the four ball to the corner for a possible win.

I don't like the attempt to cut the three to block that pocket because it will force you to take the cue ball to at least mid table where he will have many options available to him for either tying up your three ball, pocketing it and increasing his chances to win.
 
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APA!!! Bar Table!!!

You CANNOT lay down here. If you do, he'll either run out or give you an even uglier shot. As everybody else said, the best strategy is to not leave yourself in these positions. You have 3 balls; he has 6. You are supposed to lose in that situation. So the lesson you should learn is: don't start making balls until you know you can get out.

Anyway, I only see 3 shots here. Page 1 is my favorite option because of the huge side pocket. You have to hit it hard to make sure the cue ball gets the hell out of that quadrant. If you're a proficient kicker, page 2 might be better. Position is automatic with a firm stroke. I would probably never shoot page 3 because it's the toughest kick. Even if you make it, you'll likely hit the 9 and and then you're stuck in the same position with one less ball to shoot.

Oh and since this is the APA, you definitely want to be shooting hard...something might go in somewhere.

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Meh, told myself I was not gonna post on another one of these.

This kick is very makable and wins the game if you make it. If you don't make it the cances of putting the 3 into a position that screws up the 11 and 12 is high.

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The 4 looks like it goes past the 14, and a cut on the 1 with the cueball close to the 13 is totally fine since you can roll down table for the 8 in the side. So make the 3 and you probably win. Don't make the 3 but hit it and you likely tie up the pocket and at least the guy has to work to get out now.

You can kick the 3 1 rail like I showed or you can play the bank short and come off the end rail cutting the 3 in off that second rail. The only issue with that is you have to hit it hard enough to assure a rail and it has the chance of giving you a thinner cut on the 4 then you want.

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Duffman said:
I didnt leave my self in the position. He shot and and missed the 14 and left me here. its not to say that i dont usually leave myself in pickles like this, because i do...often.
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So post up the diagram that shows what the last easy shot you had was. All your solids are in the open, and should have been runnable.

If you truly want to learn from this game, rewind us to the position you had a legitimate shot in.

You aren't really gaining anything at all from even looking at this particular position, trust me.

Russ
 
Russ Chewning said:
So post up the diagram that shows what the last easy shot you had was. All your solids are in the open, and should have been runnable.

If you truly want to learn from this game, rewind us to the position you had a legitimate shot in.

You aren't really gaining anything at all from even looking at this particular position, trust me.

Russ
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Here you go -


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Duffman said:
Game is 8ball on a nice bar box.
I am a strong APA 5. The guy I am playing is an APA 7, and he is shooting lights out last night.
Match is hill-hill.
I am solids.

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If it was me, id try and hit the 3 ball and try and lock up the QB on the 11....other than that.....your FLUCKED:cool:
 
Russ Chewning said:
So post up the diagram that shows what the last easy shot you had was. All your solids are in the open, and should have been runnable.

If you truly want to learn from this game, rewind us to the position you had a legitimate shot in.

You aren't really gaining anything at all from even looking at this particular position, trust me.

Russ
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Im a 5 man. I simply dogged a shot on the 3 ball, and he plainly missed a shot on the 14
 
desmocourtney said:
Looks like it might bank back by the 9 with easy shape on the 1.
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Yep, it's a natural centerball rolling shot with several feet of approach angle on the 1.

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You might instead play it short (maybe with some inside braking spin) to pick up the 4 ball on your way to the 1:

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The first shot is key. If you can hold up for the 4 you're out.

pj
chgo
 
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Patrick Johnson said:
You might instead play it short (maybe with some inside braking spin) to pick up the 4 ball on your way to the 1:

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The first shot is key. If you can hold up for the 4 you're out.

pj
chgo
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I am pretty sure it is physically impossible to hold the Cb for the 4 and actually get the 3 all the way to the pocket.

Russ
 
Duffman said:
Game is 8ball on a nice bar box.
I am a strong APA 5. The guy I am playing is an APA 7, and he is shooting lights out last night.
Match is hill-hill.
I am solids.

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I think your assessment of the 7 is generous. He is playing lights out. If that was true it wouldn't be hill/hill and he wouldn't have missed the 14.

Anyways strong 5's are tough and usually will give some good competition. That is one nice thing about the APA is if the handicapping is done right all matches should go hill/hill. And slop also is a equalizer for the lower ranked player.

Congrads on the win. It always feels good after playing a tough match.
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