My first thought exactly. Make him shoot the low percentage shot and break those other balls out. The only downside is that he will likely just play you safe back and you will be in a world of hurt; especially if you are playing ball in hand.
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My first thought exactly. Make him shoot the low percentage shot and break those other balls out. The only downside is that he will likely just play you safe back and you will be in a world of hurt; especially if you are playing ball in hand.
Actually the carom was the second thing that came to my mind. The first thing was this.
Here ya go .... Now that it's resized you can clearly see it's a triple carom into the right side pocket. :thumbup:
Here ya go .... Now that it's resized you can clearly see it's a triple carom into the right side pocket. :thumbup:
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I dont know. I just think the carom on bank is a complete sell out. At least this way you are creating a cluster and forcing him to shoot a tough shot at the same time. Fire at the carom or the bank is very low percentage. If you miss it all his balls go. If you tie those balls up even with a break out and making the tough shot there is still a great chance that a cluster will still be there.
But I'm a terrible pool player so I'm more then likely wrong.
I'm assuming the upper left corner pocket is blocked??? It doesn't appear to be in the picture.
If not...I'm cutting it in that pocket. Don't even have to think about it.
If that pocket is blocked...my next choice would be banking the 8 hard, inside English towards the cube of chalk and into the lower left corner pocket....and pray that the speed of the shot doesn't send the 8 into another pocket.
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If not...I'm cutting it in that pocket. Don't even have to think about it.
If that pocket is blocked...my next choice would be banking the 8 hard, inside English towards the cube of chalk and into the lower left corner pocket....and pray that the speed of the shot doesn't send the 8 into another pocket.
Maniac (now you know why I'm a "C" player on a good day
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Seems like a good punishment for failing to break out the 8 earlier AND messing up my leave. On par with say... Running a 9 ball table and missing the 9 and your opponent wins the game with the one shot.
there was no clean shot into the left corner. Im sure the carom off the two was available but I saw the 5-1- side and it just felt good to me. My opponent refuses to play bca rules. He believes in "gentlemen's" bar rules, meaning you call the pocket after u make it. Because bars are full of honest upstanding people.... I have literally seen him miss an easy cut, send the OB 3 rails, glance off 2 other balls, and go near a corner pocket, and he ran over to that pocket and said "no u were supposed to go here! Damn that was close!"..... But since it's a friendly game and he only wins 1/ 5 games or less anyways don't care too much.
I get your point, but in 8-ball you can end up here through no real fault of your own. It's kind of like straight pool when you have to go into the balls or try for real tight position - even for the world's best players, it just doesn't always work out. Pool is way too difficult for anyone to be perfect all the time. At least with 14.1, you are on even footing with your opponent if you find yourself in that untenable position and decide to initiate the safety battle - same for rotation games, since you both are shooting at the same ball.
The IPT showed just how much of a "run out or die" game 8-ball is. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy seeing the pros attempt ridiculous shots, but that doesn't make it any less ridiculous. FWIW, I don't think 9-ball is fit for professional play either, albeit for totally different reasons.
Aaron - just finished a session of TAP 8-ball, because there are some things I like about 8-ball too
Carom the 8 off the 2.Looks like hitting it with follow will help
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You just described the painful beauty of 8 ball, where you get punished for tge failed runout leaving few or no object balls before the 8.
I'm glad somebody said it. I thought I was crazy.
It looks like it goes. Cut is almost always easier than a bank or carom.
A carom 4 feet from the hole and nowhere near straight relative to the cue ball is very tough.
I'd still try it before the backcut bank though.
It's just a poor angle on the picture sorry, the 7 is actually in its direct path to the corner pocket. How do u get that program I see a lot of people using on here? Blue animated table with overview? I'll hafta look into it I'm sure there is a thread about it
no its not....I do 2 rail banks all the time...
I think he is referring to the spot you appear to be aiming. If you are aiming halfway between the chalk and the next diamond over to the left you have no shot on that going 2 rails back into the bottom right corner.
I attached an estimate of the spot I think you are talking about.
To add to this even though pictures are hard to tell sometimes I think if you aim closer to the blue spot is where it would need to go to bank 2 rails back in the corner....very low percentage shot.
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a couple people have said this. but I don't really like it, if I pulled a really good safety with my one measly ball on the table by putting it into his cluster, how hard would it be for him to use the seven for a safety and screw me over worse, then if I could even get to it id most likely be forced to break his up then its an open table an average player could likely run out. I think these situations scream offensive play
If the other player is weak or even mediocre, I'd probably thin the 8 into the cluster with inside to bring the CB back up behind the cluster. That level of player is as likely to make a mistake and give me a decent shot as they are to play one or two good safeties and possibly a break out shot.
Against a good player, I'd go for the carom in the left corner pocket. Trying a safe against a good player would likely just be suffering through a slow, painful death as they safe you back with impossible kicks until they have everything set up for an easy run out.
You apparently missed your position by quite a bit to end up with the shot you had. Therefore, the thinking should have been done with the shot before. If it was that hard to get reasonable shape, you probably should have played safe on that shot.
Against a good player, I'd go for the carom in the left corner pocket. Trying a safe against a good player would likely just be suffering through a slow, painful death as they safe you back with impossible kicks until they have everything set up for an easy run out.
You apparently missed your position by quite a bit to end up with the shot you had. Therefore, the thinking should have been done with the shot before. If it was that hard to get reasonable shape, you probably should have played safe on that shot.
Here's how to post the diagrams - the software is pretty cool
and is worth the small hassle of installing shockwave, if you haven't already got it.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=3968730&postcount=11
Thanks! ill go play around with that
Absolutely the best answer!
This is the best play! You have a good angle to control the cue ball off this shot and if hit perfectly would pocket the 2 leave the 8 very near the left corner and stick whitey on the Brunswick.:thumbup2:
This is the best play! You have a good angle to control the cue ball off this shot and if hit perfectly would pocket the 2 leave the 8 very near the left corner and stick whitey on the Brunswick.:thumbup2:
I like that shot selection. To miss the 4 drawing out, back to the 'brunswick', you have to hit the 8 pretty full. That could straighten out the 8-2 combo, and send the 2 back down table near the drawn cb, after a little kiss off the 9.
Still like the shot...might use a little bottom right to throw the 8 a little left, and let the 8 roll toward the pocket, improving the chance of the 2 going in the other corner. Might need to be a smooth slowish draw, focusing mostly on betting the cb back to the bottom rail.
Looks like a fun shot.