How Would You Run These Balls?

[Black-Balled]

Surprised no one has said it yet but I would likely hit the one ball on the left side with bottom left using the two ball as a stopper for the cueball and hiding it behind the six. This would clear out the cluster issue and would likely be a lock up safety if played correctly.

Any winner-shot 'done correctly' would be a lock...

But I don't think the 1 travels far enough off the rail, if you use correct speed to stop the cb using the 2/ other blocker.

I like the bank/ stop shot too. Let's say the 1 goes in, can I reach the shot on the 2, being a right-hander?

 

[Koop]

1 -2 combo and get stupid lucky leave on the 2. Run out from there

 

[BRussell]

I actually think that attempting to bank the 1 in and run out has some merits:

• It looks like it's dead straight in the picture.
• The run out is fairly easy following a bank with a good leave on the 2. If you can play good position on the 3, it's almost a gimme.
• Played at the right speed, a bank that misses short is a 2-way shot if it flattens out off the 2nd rail enough to go behind the 2/6.

That's how I see it too. That's about as straight a bank as there is and leaves you perfect on the 2; everything else is wide open.

 

[Andrew Manning]

But I don't think the 1 travels far enough off the rail, if you use correct speed to stop the cb using the 2/ other blocker.

That depends whether you catch the 2 totally full, or cut it a little. If you catch it full in the face, you do need the 1 to come out a bit to hook him. If you hit the 2 slightly to the left of center as we look, the CB snuggles right up against the back of the 6. If you catch the 2 slightly right of center, the CB goes into the rail and sort of behind the 6 from our point of view. I think you'd be very unlucky not to get safe as long as you use good speed and avoid hitting the 6 before the 2.

I like the bank/ stop shot too. Let's say the 1 goes in, can I reach the shot on the 2, being a right-hander?

You and I are both right-handed, but the two of us might come up with different answers to this question. Depends what you're workin' with, I guess

-Andrew

 

[macguy]

You just broke and made two balls on the break. How would you run out, or would you run out?

P.S. I'm getting better with the numbering thing.

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Hard to tell from the picture but can the 1 be banked 2 rails and stick the cueball playing a two way shot?

 

[Black-Balled]

And if you catch the L side of the 2, you leave the 1strIght in the side. I don't like that shot.

1 or 2 rail bank on the 1, try for 2.5 rail speed and not hitting it long off the first rail...IMO.

Ill whack it when I get home.

That depends whether you catch the 2 totally full, or cut it a little. If you catch it full in the face, you do need the 1 to come out a bit to hook him. If you hit the 2 slightly to the left of center as we look, the CB snuggles right up against the back of the 6. If you catch the 2 slightly right of center, the CB goes into the rail and sort of behind the 6 from our point of view. I think you'd be very unlucky not to get safe as long as you use good speed and avoid hitting the 6 before the 2.



You and I are both right-handed, but the two of us might come up with different answers to this question. Depends what you're workin' with, I guess

-Andrew

 

[takeitdown]

John Brumback would bank the 1-ball and hold for the 2.
...if the angle isn't quite right, low inside will do the job.

..once the 1-ball drops, the rest are hangers for a player like Brumback.

I ain't John but the bank looks good to me. A like inside draw to shorten the 1 off the rail so it can be hit full. The runout from there is straight forward.
The more I play the more I see controlled aggressive play is what wins rotation games. A bank like this is a gamble but less of a gamble the better you bank. So you have to practice these.
Would I play safe if I needed 3 games and the opponent were on the hill? Maybe. If I was dogging it might make me play safe too. I really like to play the shot if it's there.
Nothing worse than playing a great safe and watching them luck it in or return safe by getting lucky. If you give up the table you give up the game. If you play a strong opponent it can be 4 games quickly.

 

[3RAILKICK]

That's how I see it too. That's about as straight a bank as there is and leaves you perfect on the 2; everything else is wide open.

I like that too. Play it short with inside. Stop the cb, hit the bank at the speed to go '2 times'.

Matt and Macguy suggest the same thing.

A two way shot. Good if it goes. Good if it doesn't', unless you hang it. It lays just wide of a 2:1 ratio...looks real possible.

 

[center pocket]

I actually think that attempting to bank the 1 in and run out has some merits:

• It looks like it's dead straight in the picture.
• The run out is fairly easy following a bank with a good leave on the 2. If you can play good position on the 3, it's almost a gimme.
• Played at the right speed, a bank that misses short is a 2-way shot if it flattens out off the 2nd rail enough to go behind the 2/6.

This is my choice. That bank looks dead straight as long as the one isn't frozen. You could pop it firm with some inside. If it comes short it might bank two rails and go in or leave a safe.

I like banks like these, so I am going for it.

 

[Mikjary]

Hard to tell from the picture but can the 1 be banked 2 rails and stick the cueball playing a two way shot?

This is the first thing I saw. Offense and defense in one package.

Best,
Mike

 

[TX Poolnut]

Combo the 1-2 and run the open table.

 

[gatorchad]

The bank doesn’t look straight on to me, and I think the 6 is too close to the long rail for the bank to be a 2-way shot. Looks like the missed bank is more likely to hit the end rail first and come out towards the middle of the table.

My choice is to roll the cue ball behind the 6, using the 2 to stop it in position. The one will naturally bounce to the middle of the table and the 6 will cover it quite well.

 

[Bob Jewett]

The bank doesn’t look straight on to me, ...

The one ball is sitting by 2.5. The cue ball is out and opposite 5 on the other side of the table. I'm pretty sure the bank is "adjustable" if not already perfect. Or play it a little shorter for the two-rail.

I think most (maybe all?) top players would try to run out from here. Your opponent is likely to hit the one ball if you play safe.

 

[Icon of Sin]

Looks sort of like a tough position.

I'm thinking spinning into the one with inside english -- sending the one towards the two and hopefully hiding it behind the six. The cue ball spins down to the end rail near the corner pocket. Touchy shot though. I might not like it if I was standing right in front of it.

Wrong shot... you could end up making the 2 by accident and then be ****ed on the 1.

The 1 could come out off the 2 and then you would have an tougher safe played against you. If you did get ball in hand chances are the 2 would still be blocking that pocket forcing you to pick a tougher hole or play the combo.

Jaden's shot is correct because it gets the 1 out freezes the opponent behind the 6 and knocks the 2 ball closer to the hole.

 

[Icon of Sin]

Combo the 1-2 and run the open table.

This is what you would do in a match that meant something?

 

[mia]

you bank the one across the table and use the two as a stopper to lock the cb behind the six..

Jaden

Agreed 100%.
Running out here is stupid. Even if you DO pull it off, you made the wrong choice.

 

[takeitdown]

Anybody who chose to play safe versus bank and runout please contact me. I would love to gamble a little, I like money .
As mentioned if the bank comes up short it will play safe or luck in 2 rails. This is not a difficult runout at all.

 

[Icon of Sin]

Agreed 100%.
Running out here is stupid. Even if you DO pull it off, you made the wrong choice.

Couldnt agree more.

 

[Icon of Sin]

Anybody who chose to play safe versus bank and runout please contact me. I would love to gamble a little, I like money .
As mentioned if the bank comes up short it will play safe or luck in 2 rails. This is not a difficult runout at all.

Im surprised it took this long for a "would love to gamble" guy to post...

It's even easier after you give your opponent ball in hand when they hooked you on the 6 and got the 1 and 2 out at the same time.

While the bank is the only potential option for a run out (the combo is moronic) with the safe there are no "ifs" like the one you mentioned ("if the back comes up short"). If the bank comes up long it's tracking right back for a look on it.

 

[BRussell]

Im surprised it took this long for a "would love to gamble" guy to post...

It's even easier after you give your opponent ball in hand when they hooked you on the 6 and got the 1 and 2 out at the same time.

While the bank is the only potential option for a run out (the combo is moronic) with the safe there are no "ifs" like the one you mentioned ("if the back comes up short"). If the bank comes up long it's tracking right back for a look on it.

It's not just bank shots that have a chance of going bad, safeties can be screwed up as well. And even if it's successful, what happens after your opponent makes a good kick? Who knows?