This is true.
Ted used to sell ice to Eskimos.
And before that he was one of the biggest exporters of sand to Saudi Arabia.
And all at full retail.
I am a bad salesman.
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This is true.
Ted used to sell ice to Eskimos.
And before that he was one of the biggest exporters of sand to Saudi Arabia.
And all at full retail.
I don't think your a monster , nor do I think you should be burned at the stake - but I think that you might be prone to making unwise and short sighted business decisions that will prevent you from reaching your goals.
You stated goal is to raise enough money to pay for the foundation repair to your house. You might find that this apparent "increased profit" from the business choice you made in the botched sale very well may cost you thousands of dollars in lost sales down the road.
Good, high quality reputation is very hard to come by and requires strict dedication and work. It's a shame to tarnish your reputation for money.
I have sold a cue and then got a better offer right after but honored the sale because a deal is a deal.
I know you were being fair but in reality, you could not accept the second offer because the cue was no longer yours to sell, it was already sold. It is not even a close call as to what is right or wrong, the cue is already sold.
At best you get the name of the second buyer and if the first deal falls through you can offer it to him.
I have told this story before but there is a top cue maker I have known most of my life.
I was at his shop and he was getting ready to ship a cue. Turns out the cue was already finished for a customer and he got a cash in hand offer for the cue at like twice the price the first customer was quoted like 3 years earlier.
You see, he has now become quite famous and his cues have really up on the secondary market. I am sorry to say people who have been waiting for years for their cues will likely never get them.
He is not shipping a cue he quoted say $2100.00 for 5 years ago when he can sell it today for $4500.00 today. Sort of the same thing as with what we have been talking about. The seller only cares about the money not honoring a deal he has made. I am sorry, many of you will never see your cues your ordered like7 or 9 years ago.
You just can't do business like that. If you rent a car when you go there you expect to get a car at the agreed price. You don't want to hear, "I am sorry a cruse ship just came in and we can get twice as much for the cars as we agreed to rent you the car for now". "If you would like to pay $79.00 a day instead of the $39.00 we offered it to you for last week you can have it".
WTF, who does business like that?
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I disagree. That would in turn mean that any buyer who backs out of a sale can't because they have already bought it...until pen meets paper or cash is received there is no "deal." Is it an easy way to ruin rep? Sure. Will it displease people? Yes? Is it a crime worthy of tar and feathering, burning at the stake or a good ol fashioned impaling? No. I have had sellers say they will get back to me and they don't. I have had buyers on a house get disappointed when their verbal offer didn't get hold it for them and a contract offer that was higher did. It is what it is. I would hope I wouldn't do something like this but I'm not going to judge.
How about splitting the profits with the person who you previously accepted an offer from?
Win-win.
Win-win.
Interesting story about such a now famous cuemaker. What if he's been sitting on his customer's deposit for multi-years with no intention of making the cue? (rhetorical question really)
Pool is certainly funny! In our little world, it's acceptable for someone like that with a certain name or "status" to screw their customers over....but if another guy does it or tries a move like that, they get burned at the stake. Ahhhhhhhh, gotta love pool !!!! :thumbup:
To me, it's nothing more than any other guy not doing what he says he'll do, whether it be a seller/maker or buyer. Any way you slice it, it's unethical, shady and bad.
What you say is true but there has to be a reasonable allowed time to the buyer to complete the deal. He is not in the same room with you. At a point we all have to be adults not children. If I get screwed, fine but I will not let that possibility grant me license to screw someone else.
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A deal is a deal, and that's that.
My father's friend bought his boat for a very low price, because the owner agreed to sell it for X amount of dollars and changed his mind the day of the sale. My father's friend took him to court, got the boat and the guy had to pay the court costs. You just need proof or a witness.
That was nearly 15 years ago. I wouldn't be surprised if someone snaked their way out of a deal and got away with it.
What I found more amazing was he had to nerve to even tell me what he was doing. In his pea brain I guess he thinks it is OK.
You make a game with a guy in a pool hall and halfway through the set you realize you made a bad deal so you decide to just quit and play somebody else who will make a "fairer" game.
I'm sure the guy you quit on wouldn't have an issue with you just walking away from the deal.
I'm sure the guy you quit on wouldn't have an issue with you just walking away from the deal.
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Yeah, talk about a boring thread.
Why not send the man a little Jelly for his trouble, maybe a 3 pack of some special chalk?
It sucks but you gotta follow rule #1- Look out for yourself because noboday else will.
You didn't have his money in hand yet, so I'd say that deal was pending. How often do you sell an item and days later still no payment? I give people 12 hours to pay, after that it's for sale to whoever pays first.
Having seen how cue purchases transpire here on AZB, it will be a cold day in hell before I even offer to buy one off AZB, or make an offer at any auction site where the seller wants me to pay his auction fee or otherwise bypass the regular auction process.
I might deal with an in-person transaction, if I could research the cue quality and value, then hit some balls with it, prior to payment.
I might deal with an in-person transaction, if I could research the cue quality and value, then hit some balls with it, prior to payment.
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I've had sellers back out of deals as I noted above, but I've never actually been burned on a purchase whether it be here, Facebook, or eBay. You just have to take the same precautions as in any other purchase.
I did have something very unusual happen on a very expensive cue just this week involving a zero-feedback AZ seller.
After doing the usual back and forth Q&A via email, we spoke on the phone. I barely was able to ask a question when he said: "I'll just ship you the cue and if you like it you can send me a check."
This was a rare and expensive cue. I was stunned. I now have the cue and he has his money.
I've had sellers back out of deals as I noted above, but I've never actually been burned on a purchase whether it be here, Facebook, or eBay. You just have to take the same precautions as in any other purchase.
I did have something very unusual happen on a very expensive cue just this week involving a zero-feedback AZ seller.
After doing the usual back and forth Q&A via email, we spoke on the phone. I barely was able to ask a question when he said: "I'll just ship you the cue and if you like it you can send me a check."
This was a rare and expensive cue. I was stunned. I now have the cue and he has his money.
Jay, since the cue is rare & expensive, why don't you ship it to me, and I will send you a check
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I already did. I couldn't bear to own it and thought you should have it.
Sold your reputation for some coin. I don't know what cues you sell but I hope I never buy one.
I know what you mean, I get that way with certain cues.
For instance I've got a Cuetec skull & crossbones cue, all black, with a Cuetec jump / break.
My ex-wife brokered a multi-cue deal, including this cool Cuetec.
The original owner scratched her name and phone number into the forearm of the skull cue.
Both Earl Strickland models, both all black, they don't fit in my collection anymore, and I don't think I'll play with either one.
Time to let em fly