I believe a whole lot of AZre's owe Mr. Wheat an Apology

Rak9up said:
I am sorry that Mr. Edwards is not totally happy with the cue.

Eddie is fortunate to have you as a friend.

The reason I'm not totally happy with the cue is the fact that it came in with shafts over an inch to long. Other than that it's a great cue.

I applaud you for speaking up for a friend. But please answer these questions for me; What if you ordered a cue and it came in well outside of your specs? Would you be unhappy about that? What would you do about it?

If the above happened to you, would you have started this thread?
 
Blackjack said:
The cue is absolutely beautiful. Eddie's cues are awesome.

Charlie said he doesn't have a camera, but I am pretty sure that the picture of me holding the cue will give you a basic idea of how it looks.

Eddie's cues hit extremely well. Charlie posted that in the thread that was eventually closed. I have shot with one of Eddie's earlier cues, and believe me, his work is awesome.

About an apology...

I don't know how to react to that.

I stuck my neck out to let people know that Eddie had shipped the cue. Did Eddie ever try to confirm that information or update it? No he didn't. That surprised me. Eddie's a friend and I had his back, but did he have mine?

A few months ago I showed up at Eddie's front door to find out for myself how Eddie is. I like Eddie, I really do. He's a very nice person, great to talk to, very motivated about pool. I am sure that anybody that knows Eddie will tell you the same thing. Of course he has issues in his life, we all do. We all have things in our past that we're not proud of. Posting Eddie's arrest history wasn't necessary - in fact it was kind of childish. I don't give a shit what the excuse was for doing that, it wasn't the right thing to do, and that's coming from someone who used to be police officer.

I would recommend Eddie to any player that is looking for a great cue.

Understand that the process is going to take a while. Getting a cue in 7 months is pretty quick - but when it is promised in 90-120 days, Eddie needs to honor that, or make provisions for when the work is delayed.

Apology? The only apology that should be made is from Eddie Wheat to Charlie Edwards. It should be done publicly.

I don't think that Eddie's promotional tactics are helping him at all. All this nonsense isn't necessary.I don't see Mason or Doug Patrick or Willie or Eric Crisp or any other cue maker having the same issues that Eddie is having.

There comes a point where you can't say that it's everybody else. Eddie enjoys the excitement generated by these threads - so I doubt he's sitting at home with his head in his hands praying for this situation to change. If you know Eddie, you know what I just said is true.

My only problem with Eddie is that he needs to provide his customers with more information than they need. I learned how to do that a long time ago. It is better for the customer to have more information about the services, changes in the progress or delays in completion, and the shipping. Give people more information than they need.

What that will do, is give the customer the impression that you value their business and their trust. Realize that the trust and satisfaction of the customer is more important than the money paid for the services. Others that do business on this forum within the billiards industry understand what I am talking about.

Also, if you do business on this forum, learn how to communicate effectively with the people you are dealing with. Lately there are more threads about bad deals and misunderstandings between buyers and sellers - and it really has gotten out of hand. It's an epidemic.

If you are selling something, beware of the traps of the rip off artists. Protect yourself no matter what end of the deal you are on. Play it smart. Of course every once in a while something will happen that is unavoidable. Most of these situations occur in the presence of poor communication.

Let it be known that Eddie is not a bad guy at all.Not everybody is going to like him. He doesn't always do the right thing or say the right thing or present himself acceptably to the masses - but he does make a great cue. He does need to learn a lot about customer service. This transaction (although it was a bumpy ride) had a happy ending and somebody somewhere is going to have a great cue.
I'm getting a little off topic here, but let me say that David, Blackjack is one of the very best instructors of pool you'll fine. I've heard that for years from reliable players that have used him. If you want some instruction, he's your man! And I understand he is VERY reasonably priced.
 
Blackjack said:
Apology? The only apology that should be made is from Eddie Wheat to Charlie Edwards. It should be done publicly.

This is EXACTLY correct. Why would anyone apologize to Eddie for putting the heat on him to make things right when he has not publically apologized to Charlie? Doesn't make sense to me.
 
Charlie Edwards said:
Eddie is fortunate to have you as a friend.

The reason I'm not totally happy with the cue is the fact that it came in with shafts over an inch to long. Other than that it's a great cue.

I applaud you for speaking up for a friend. But please answer these questions for me; What if you ordered a cue and it came in well outside of your specs? Would you be unhappy about that? What would you do about it?

If the above happened to you, would you have started this thread?

Mr. Edwards you are truely a class act.

Your right your only option is to provide feedback/you can't correct something if you don't know its wrong.

I was happy with the cue Eddie made for me and I had some unique parameters

I just saw so much negativity on the last thread instead of a little faith.

I agree also it seems like a fairly quick and simple fix and I also can understand you taking it to someone else.

Time will tell if Eddie gets better
 
Rak9up said:
Mr. Edwards you are truely a class act.

Your right your only option is to provide feedback/you can't correct something if you don't know its wrong.

I was happy with the cue Eddie made for me and I had some unique parameters

I just saw so much negativity on the last thread instead of a little faith.

I agree also it seems like a fairly quick and simple fix and I also can understand you taking it to someone else.

Time will tell if Eddie gets better
But the thing is, it's not a cheap fix. The ferrules would have to be cut off, new tenons added and new ivory ferrules installed. I just don't want to put that much money into it. Realistically I'm stuck. And sending it back to Eddie is NOT an option.

I'm not trying to be hard to get along with. On every turn since I sent my money to Eddie Wheat, it's been one screw-up after another.

Finally I get the cue. It looks nice. I make a few test hits. I'm tapping the cue ball with warm up strokes. I put it alongside a cue I know is 58''. Eddie's cue is about an inch longer. I get out a tape. Sure enough, the cue measures a little over 59''.

If I went through so much trouble to measure it, why didn't Eddie do the same? It would appear that he was trying a little move. That's the only thing I can figure out. But what do i know?
 
From Rak9up,"I believe a whole lot of AZre's owe Mr. Wheat an Apology "

The word "crock" comes to mind. This may be considered immature but you have truly raised "nut hugging" to a new level. wheat advertises building to specs but can't use a ruler? Mr. Edwards pays $700.00 American dollars for something he did not order which came in way past the promised delivery date.You are either wheat using a different screen name or in on this joke with him to keep the drama alive.A new AZB low.
Brian
 
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Apologozing on the internet sounds suspiciously like arguing/threatening people on the internet, not worth the time typing it out because the words aren't worth 2 cents.
 
Brian said:
From Rak9up,"I believe a whole lot of AZre's owe Mr. Wheat an Apology "

The word "crock" comes to mind. This may be considered immature but you have truly raised "nut hugging" to a new level. wheat advertises building to specs but can't use a ruler? Mr. Edwards pays $700.00 American dollars for something he did not order which came in way past the promised delivery date.You are either wheat using a different screen name or in on this joke with him to keep the drama alive.A new AZB low.
Brian

Brian,

Respectfully, your comments are very inappropriate. Rak9up IS NOT Eddie Wheat. You need to realize that Eddie Wheat is one of the best at what he does in this area (Central Florida/Spacecost). He has a lot of loyal, satisfied customers, and they will come in here and add their comments and opinions - they are well within their rights to do so.

Instead of calling people "nuthuggers", lets work to find a way to make this situation better, not worse. We can try to find a buyer for the cue that Charlie has, which BTW - is a beautiful piece of work by Eddie - just not what Charlie wanted.

Charlie has taken the high road throughout this entire ordeal, and I'm pretty sure he does not want this thread to get as ugly as the last one (which was eventually closed). Charlie is a good guy and not a difficult person to do business with. I hope everybody understands that.

You have to realize that not everything all bad or all good, and that applies to Eddie also. I have said it before, whomever ends up with that cue will be very happy with it.

For those people that want pics of the cue - here is what it lookedlike the day I was at Eddie's shop.

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FWIW, not everybody that likes Eddie's cue are "nuthuggers".Some of us can look past the drama and respect his work, whether or not you respect him as a person.

Charlie, I guarantee you that you can find a buyer for that cue here in Florida. I'll ask around and see if anybody is interested.
 
I haven't been involved in the drama surrounding Wheat but I'm all in favor of people turning their lives around. I wish him the best and if I had any money I would buy a cue from him as long as it played good.
 
I am truly sorry Eddie...

that you gave Mr. Edwards the shaft longer than expected. :eek:

Charlie sounds like he will be alright, albeit out a bit. But he has been pure class! Can't rep him again, but would if I could. I'll still hold a smidgen of hope for Eddie to rehab his ways... Just not at my expense any time soon.

Kudos to AZ for an assist on holding his feet to the fire. Blackjack, kudos too for your input - you treaded some chilly waters pretty nicely IMO! Spider - classic hostage pic! Brian, you're a pit bull dude! Poolplaya9, you got a good level typing head on ya. Smorg - you're sick and your beautiful.

But now it's time. The acadamy award goes to.... Drum roll please!

Nobody! :sorry: No winners here, but some good things should come from it all.

It's been a hella-great train-wreck-ride, but for now, the E-ticket appears about out of track. Or is it... ;)
 
1. To Brian-the fact that I apoligized to another Azer should have proven I'm not Eddie using another screen name..and Lighten up dude

2. To Smorgass-Did you find a 24 hour chineese buffet have you been eating non stop?

3. To Mr. Edwards-Karma comes back some good rolls are in your future on the table

4. To Blackjack-Spot on

If you'll excuse me I have to get back to my creative writing class
 
Blackjack:
The following prompted my post:
"From Rak9up,"I believe a whole lot of AZre's owe Mr. Wheat an Apology "

You have got to be kidding me? I respectfully disagree with your response to my post.This has got to be some kind of sick joke.I can only hope any future customers, if they exist, wait for the finished product before paying wheat.How can he be "respected" as a cue maker if he can't use a ruler?
Brian

I am done with this thread.Let wheat have his drama.Enough of AZB knows the truth about him.
 
With all the crap I've been put through during this long, unnecessary, nasty, and disgusting journey I decided to end it right here and now for me.

The cue is not for sale. I'll just keep it, put it away and forget this whole experience. This cue has been nothing but a jinx from day one. I'm not selling it for fear that something would go terribly wrong with the deal, and there would be more aggravation for me to go through.

I'm no longer going to respond to anything on this board concerning this cue or Eddie Wheat. I would like to forget it all. Thanks for all the support from the members that wanted a wrong to be righted. All of you earned my respect.
 
Rak9up said:
Are you guys complete idiots

Been here since May with 41 posts and already everybody in this forum is a bunch of idiots.

Clark Kent-------Superman
Bruce Wayne----Batman
RAK9UP---------Eddie Wheat
 
Ed Simmons said:
Been here since May with 41 posts and already everybody in this forum is a bunch of idiots.

Clark Kent-------Superman
Bruce Wayne----Batman
RAK9UP---------Eddie Wheat

Not the same person. Rak9up has about 90lbs on Eddie.
 
Charlie Edwards said:
With all the crap I've been put through during this long, unnecessary, nasty, and disgusting journey I decided to end it right here and now for me.

The cue is not for sale. I'll just keep it, put it away and forget this whole experience. This cue has been nothing but a jinx from day one. I'm not selling it for fear that something would go terribly wrong with the deal, and there would be more aggravation for me to go through.

I'm no longer going to respond to anything on this board concerning this cue or Eddie Wheat. I would like to forget it all. Thanks for all the support from the members that wanted a wrong to be righted. All of you earned my respect.

That's the funniest post of the year, without a doubt. LMAO! That's EXACTLY how I view things-gone-bad. A jinx. Next thing ya know, you sell it and there's a hair scratch somewhere and they call for their money back. You don't even get a chance to return the call when you go out to get a mail and there's a hearing notice for collection on "selling damaged property" and a fraud claim. I hear ya brother.... my sentiments exactly.

Might as well bury the thing under a willow tree in the back yard.... just make sure you don't bury it in a pet cemetery or something. It might come back to life to kick your azz.
 
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