I can't stand when people cut rings and handles into fullsplice cues and then say they play so amazingly!
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I can't stand when people ruin fullsplice cues!!!
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I'd put my short splice against ANY fullsplice. There isn't a big difference if done right. In addition, 1 piece butts seem to play best, but only by the slightest of margin. Full splice was doesn't have the same advantages it once did. With newer technology of cue making today, it's just not that relevant anymore, IMO.
FTR, best cue I've ever hit, was a 1 piece butt, rosewood cue, made by Keith. It's my buddies, and he won't sell it. Not even for triple the original asking price. (I offered it.) I've been told by a dozen different people, including SVB, TheSleeve, and a few other guys that it's the stiffest hitting cue they ever played. I tried to duplicate it, but that one piece of wood seems to have the magic. Not sure why, but the stars aligned that shaft and butt to be together.
Either way, nothing breaks my heart more than rounded points and inlays...
all the best,
CNC rounded floating points are dead sexy, obviously :boring2:
When I become King rounded points will be outlawed.
What a crappy way to make cues.
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Agreed!
I can't pocket a ball with a cue that has rounded points. One cue was so bad that I was missing the pocket by a full diamond. Picked up a sharp-pointed cue and made every shot.
There there! They're their wrong.
That said. I doubt a blind taste test would show anything other than a shooter can't tell the difference in a group of cues' construction.
I can't stand when people say that full spliced cues play better than other cues built differently.
The most desirable one piece full splice cues for conversion are, Brunswick Titlist, BBC and Tru Balance cues.
When a joint measurement is done above the Points to see where the joint will be cut, at least 29 inches plus. a little extra should be there for facing the cut.
Many times, the optimal joint dimension isn't there in order to have the cue at 29".
So, it becomes necessary to add a piece to the butt in order to keep the cue at 29".
Wouldn't it be great if all the one piece cues for conversion were .840 high above the points without adding additional wood.
I'm not that experienced at this but doubt that adding a tenon and a short butt sleeve is going to be totally detrimental to the playability of the cue.
I have 6 Tru Balance waiting to be converted and unfortunately, none of them will work without adding a sleeve at the bottom.
I have never seen thus far, a Titlist conversion that I wouldn't love to call my own. Butt sleeve, rings or whatever added.
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I'm referring to hacking the splice up to add rings above the wrap. Adding stuff behind the handle doesn't effect feel. The vibration of a fullsplice is unique and can be determined in a blind test.
Cool, now we are reading from the same page. I understand and agree.
Maybe in some circumstances, where the butt is warped but 12" of the points can be saved, it is an option.
I had a very nice Sneaky where that happened. I was able to cut the forearm out of it and it can be used.
I can use it for a cue or for a jump handle now.
It won't ever play as nice as it did as a full splice, but I always figure, waste not, want not.
But to take, for example, a perfectly straight Titlist or any other and cut the fore arm off in order to add ring work above the wrap handle, well, I would prefer not to do it but I guess it is the buyers preference if that were to happen.
Maybe in some circumstances, where the butt is warped but 12" of the points can be saved, it is an option.
I had a very nice Sneaky where that happened. I was able to cut the forearm out of it and it can be used.
I can use it for a cue or for a jump handle now.
It won't ever play as nice as it did as a full splice, but I always figure, waste not, want not.
But to take, for example, a perfectly straight Titlist or any other and cut the fore arm off in order to add ring work above the wrap handle, well, I would prefer not to do it but I guess it is the buyers preference if that were to happen.
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Nothing wrong with putting a wrap on a full spliced cue. You are free to do to "YOUR" cues what you see fit. As for others' cues, that's their business.
Balabushka cut perfectly executed full splice blanks in order to put his patented Bushka ring in all the time.
By "handle", I don't think he is talking about a "wrap groove". I think he is talking about cutting behind the points, adding a "handle" and then a butt sleeve.
I have a Brunswick Titlist full-splice with an Irish linen wrap, but the entire butt of the cue is ONE PIECE from the original Titlist.
Maybe so, however, I don't understand why people insist on what others must do or must not do to their cues. Some will say people shouldn't be able to buy a custom cue that has any tip smaller than 13mm because the person saying it wants to be able to resale the "custom cue" If it's a custom cue it was made for someone per their specifications. To those people, I say simply, it isn't your cue, don't worry about it
That would be when Full Splice blanks were a dime a dozen so to speak.
I think the OP is referring to now, when old full splices are at a premium.
But you are also correct in that no one had a problem with the way George's cues played
and not any would turn down the opportunity to own one. Me wouldn't.
My Dad always said that if he had known what antique cars would be worth, he would have kept his old $400 Model T.
I supposed at the time when Titlists were available, 4 dollars for a dozen or so, if people had realized todays market for them, they may have hoarded them by the 100s.
I think the OP is referring to now, when old full splices are at a premium.
But you are also correct in that no one had a problem with the way George's cues played
and not any would turn down the opportunity to own one. Me wouldn't.
My Dad always said that if he had known what antique cars would be worth, he would have kept his old $400 Model T.
I supposed at the time when Titlists were available, 4 dollars for a dozen or so, if people had realized todays market for them, they may have hoarded them by the 100s.
Do fullsplice cues make you play like a champion?
I'd bet against that. Shall we set up a test at the SBE. I will bet dinner that out of 50 random people not five of them can tell which is the full splice and which is not if we have say three of each cues and a blind test.
I understand that there must be differences but I doubt the average player can feel them.
Yes they do, but only if you use Old Spice with Full Splice.
See what I did there?
Bruce, I bought a Limited Edition Lucasi a few years ago on EBay. It was a pretty good deal and a very nice cue. Snake wood, sterling silver butt cap etc.
Only 100 made and I had a certificate with it. I sold the darn thing shortly there after and have regretted it since. Ya know, I have been searching the net and I can't find a picture
or a trace of the cue. At one time, you could, and because of old age memory, I can't remember the LE numbers of it.
Trust me, it was a nice cue. Me very stupid sometimes.
See what I did there?
Bruce, I bought a Limited Edition Lucasi a few years ago on EBay. It was a pretty good deal and a very nice cue. Snake wood, sterling silver butt cap etc.
Only 100 made and I had a certificate with it. I sold the darn thing shortly there after and have regretted it since. Ya know, I have been searching the net and I can't find a picture
or a trace of the cue. At one time, you could, and because of old age memory, I can't remember the LE numbers of it.
Trust me, it was a nice cue. Me very stupid sometimes.
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