I devulged TOI

[JoeyA]

My neighbor, who now is an accomplished attorney after returning from a cross country trip where he ran, on foot, from CT all the way to California chasing an ambulance that he thought was carrying an injured party, but in reality was just a vehicle delivery guy and his partner, says ..... the reason you left off the word english is to try to avoid a plagiarism suit against you.

He says, it ain't gonna work smarty pants. His counter offer to your high class attorney is $1.25 a year, for 4 .... I mean 5 years. So take some of that!

edit ... he also said it's the word "touch" that's gonna put the nail in the coffin, not the word english. :nanner:

You and CJ both have gotten way too much "spin" out of this thread and oh BTW, you need another attorney. My advice is to hold out for double your original expectations. Until you real eyes how much money you are leaving on the table, CJ will continue to put the touch on you and leave you spinning your head.

JoeyA

 

[3andstop]

You and CJ both have gotten way too much "spin" out of this thread and oh BTW, you need another attorney. My advice is to hold out for double your original expectations. Until you real eyes how much money you are leaving on the table, CJ will continue to put the touch on you and leave you spinning your head.

JoeyA

Joey, I think you're right. I'd like to secure your services. Don't worry about any shingle you think you may need. I got an old friend, great with titles, passports, even college diplomas. He must have a blank form for BAR exams.

How much can I give up to you for a binder?

 

[CJ Wiley]

TOI is the SMART way to play

Confusion of terms is a common obstacle in marketing. It's not too late to change the acronym "TOI" to make it clear that you don't want this confusion.

The Video makes it all clear----->TOI is the SMART way to play - Specific, Motivating, Achievable, Rewarding, and Tactical

 

[JoeyA]

Joey, I think you're right. I'd like to secure your services. Don't worry about any shingle you think you may need. I got an old friend, great with titles, passports, even college diplomas. He must have a blank form for BAR exams.

How much can I give up to you for a binder?

I am also a typesetter and graphic designer, just for the record. I make my own credentials. :wink:

My services are kind of expensive, unfortunately for you.

CJ's legal team earns peanuts IMO...... Just sayin....

JoeyA

 

[sfleinen]

The Video makes it all clear----->TOI is the SMART way to play - Specific, Motivating, Achievable, Rewarding, and Tactical

I don't know about that. When I watch the videos, I think:

[S]omething [H]ere [I]sn't [T]rue

...or even:

[F]rom [LO]oking [A]t [T]his [E]ven [R]ookies [S]quint

I don't know, I think TOILET is the most accurate -- the [L]acking [E]nglish [T]erm part appended to TOI really helps to prevent confusion with that nasty "English" term you so dislike.

-Sean

 

[CJ Wiley]

TOI gives POWER - Performance Optimized With Enhanced Rewards

I don't know about that. When I watch the videos, I think:

Let's be clear - there's only one TOI video and it unlocks the mysteries of TOI that have been kept hidden since the foundation of the "pool age".

TOI gives a pool player POWER - Performance Optimized With Enhanced Rewards

 

[CJ Wiley]

I'm grateful to everyone that Enjoys pool and truly wants to see the game flourish

I think you answered your own question very well! :smile:

Best,
Mike

You know as well as I do, Mike, that if someone doesn't appreciate any benefits from TOI it's simply because they've refused change. The ONLY reason I was able to reach the highest levels was my desire to improve, change, and LISTEN to other people.....and even follow their directions and suggestions to achieve success.

Buddy Hall, Coy Lee, Dalton Leong, Jersey Red, Eddie Taylor, Doug Smith, Rusty Brandemeire, Mike Sigel, Omaha John, Earl Strickland, Johnny Archer, Allen Hopkins, Vernon Elliott and many, many more were very inspirational to me and my progress.....and they ALL said or did something that added to my game and indirectly to being voted one of the best money players of the 20th Century.

I'm grateful to everyone that loves pool and truly wants to see the game flourish again.

'The Game is Our Teacher'

 

[His Boy Elroy]

I've not used the term "side"... the reason I don't highlight "english" or "spin" with TOI is it takes the student's mind off what's pertinent -----> deflection.

What you are doing {when using TOI} is deflecting the cue ball slightly so it "cuts" the object ball slightly more (than where you're aiming). This enables the practitioner of TOI to favor the inside of the pocket and "cut" it slightly into the center.

If the cue ball doesn't deflect it hits the inside of the pocket, when it's hit well it targets the center and if it happens to deflect too much it will still contact the outside of the pocket.

This is called the '3 Part Pocket System' and it's a powerful system for pocketing balls. I am known as one of the best shot makers in the business and this is the system I utilize.

Those that put some time into this system will enjoy and benefit from the extra confidence it produces in shot-making .....you have to experience what it takes to appreciate TOI, there's no short cut to dedication and practice. The payoff is developing a game that will grow and mature every day, in every way. 'The Game is the Teacher'

You're preaching to the choir when you talk T.O.I. to me. It's pretty clear; however, that T.O.I has more than a few detractors. I've exchanged posts with a few of them and after a while I just tend to say goodbye when it becomes clear the conversation is just not going anywhere.

I'm just trying to put myself in the shoes of a first time visitor to AZ who's reading about T.O.I for the first time, and who might be open to it, and reads you saying in one post that the cue ball should be struck off center on most shots, and then reads you saying in another post saying that if if English is used on most shots, that player is making things unnecessarily difficult.

On the other hand, I see your point, and I think I said pretty much the same thing about how English should be de - emphasized and deflection emphasized.

So maybe I shouldn't be writing any of these posts. In a few weeks when I'm thinking straight again - or rather - when I'm thinking somewhat straighter, I'm going to have to re-read these posts and make a determination as to their appropriateness. You see; to make a a long story short; I'm between pool tables. I haven't played pool in exactly 30 days. As I speak, the rails to my new table are in a mechanics shop 30 miles away.

Let me try to describe what it's been like not playing pool for 30 days: I can't eat, I can't sleep, I'm depressed, I'm irritable, I'm angry, my heart rate has slowed, I've developed rashes. A facial tick has begun to appear and my feces are purple....If my posts seem to reflect the mind of a person caught up in the throes of unbearable mental anguish...please understand.

 

[Mikjary]

Purple? Too much information. :grin-square: Get well soon!

Best,
Mike

 

[seven_7days]

Joey, I think you're right. I'd like to secure your services. Don't worry about any shingle you think you may need. I got an old friend, great with titles, passports, even college diplomas. He must have a blank form for BAR exams.

How much can I give up to you for a binder?

Is this your "old friend"?

 

[CJ Wiley]

long nearly straight shots using TOI

Notice he said "nearly" straight in.....there's a HUGE differentce between "straight in" and "nearly straight in"....when they're "nearly" straight in TOI makes them much easier to make consistently.....when they're perfectly straight in you can't use TOI or you'll throw the object ball OUT of the pocket....you can't favor the "inside" of the pocket and utilize the '3 Part Pocket System' when the balls are straight.

Now and again he'd get out of line and pop in long nearly straight shots in the heart of the pocket. This one day I said to him, that's one of the shots that stops me all the time, I seem to alway spin them out without realizing it.

3andstop,

In your linked post you do mention using a bit of inside on a long straight in shot to make it easier. The funny thing is -- this is the one shot that CJ says NOT to use his "TOI" technique.

I've always scratched my head at this. If the technique works as directed, why would you not employ it on these straight ins?

 

[Mikjary]

I think this is the biggest benefit of all shots on the table using TOI...that almost straight in shot. If you aim straight at it and try and throw it in with outside spin or try to cut it slightly, you're going to get mixed results from day to day.

I hit this shot by still aiming at it full in the face and deflect the cue ball a degree or two with TOI. It's almost an automatic for me. I just have to make sure I accelerate with a crisp stroke. I feel I could set up this shot and make it with my eyes closed. :wink:

Best,
Mike

 

[CJ Wiley]

This is probably not going to make sense to many players, but it will to you

You are exactly right and this is a powerful advantage. Especially when you start to "real eyes" that I play Most (almost all) of my shots like they're almost straight in. This is why I align to either the center or edge of each shot (you've seen me describing this process I'm sure) to the inside of the pocket.....if I aligned to the center of the pocket it would be "like straight in"....but I don't, I line up "almost straight in"....you see the difference, Mike, that's the next step in "advanced TOI".

The outcome is to match your perception to each shot in such a way that EVERY shot seems the same.....the only difference is aligning to the EDGE, or CENTER of the object ball. This is probably not going to make sense to many players, but I have a feeling you will know what I'm saying......you are very close to this level my friend.

'The TOI is our Teacher'

I think this is the biggest benefit of all shots on the table using TOI...that almost straight in shot. If you aim straight at it and try and throw it in with outside spin or try to cut it slightly, you're going to get mixed results from day to day.

I hit this shot by still aiming at it full in the face and deflect the cue ball a degree or two with TOI. It's almost an automatic for me. I just have to make sure I accelerate with a crisp stroke. I feel I could set up this shot and make it with my eyes closed. :wink:

Best,
Mike

 

[sfleinen]

I don't know about that. When I watch the videos, I think:

Let's be clear - there's only one TOI video and it unlocks the mysteries of TOI that have been kept hidden since the foundation of the "pool age".

TOI gives a pool player POWER - Performance Optimized With Enhanced Rewards

Hmm... that doesn't help with the confusion of people adding that nasty "English" term that you so dislike.

Because of your diversionary counter-acronyms, I'm left to think:

[D]oes [I]t [A]ddress [R]elevant [R]eferences [H]ere, [E]xhibit [A] ?

Answer: no, I don't think so. But you sure do "dribble" with the marketing drivel counter-acronyms, though.

-Sean <-- needs to take Imodium-AD, CJ Edition

 

[CJ Wiley]

'The English Teacher is the Teacher'

Hmm... that doesn't help with the confusion of people adding that nasty "English" term that you so dislike.

I'm fine with the term "english".....it's like Jack Nicklaus using the word "slice"....it's a part of the game (of golf and pool), but not part of the TOI Technique. Anyone that can tell me why I will send a FREE TOI DVD and signed poster (in the next 2 hours).

In my first video 'Ultimate Pool Secrets' I have a cue ball called "The English Teacher' which is used to teach any type of "english" needed to play an accomplished game of pool. 'The English Teacher is the Teacher'

 

[JoeyA]

Maybe.....

I'm fine with the term "english".....it's like Jack Nicklaus using the word "slice"....it's a part of the game (of golf and pool), but not part of the TOI Technique. Anyone that can tell me why I will send a FREE TOI DVD and signed poster (in the next 2 hours).

In my first video 'Ultimate Pool Secrets' I have a cue ball called "The English Teacher' which is used to teach any type of "english" needed to play an accomplished game of pool. 'The English Teacher is the Teacher'

When you play golf, right-handed, and you slice the golf ball, the golf ball curves to the right because of the spin. If you play golf left-handed, and you slice the golf ball, the golf ball curves to the left, because of the spin.

When you put TOI (a touch of inside) on a cue ball, the cue ball doesn't curve.

JoeyA

 

[CJ Wiley]

"english" is "spin" and TOI is DEFLECTION - Spin is not part of the TOI mind set .

That's correct, and why I prefer NOT to use "english" associated with TOI - "english" is "spin" and TOI is DEFLECTION.....the principles are the same in golf, and of course the game's are different. Wind is not much of an issue in pool either. My comparison is purely about creating zones through "moving" the ball in one direction or the other.

When you play golf, right-handed, and you slice the golf ball, the golf ball curves to the right because of the spin. If you play golf left-handed, and you slice the golf ball, the golf ball curves to the left, because of the spin.

When you put TOI (a touch of inside) on a cue ball, the cue ball doesn't curve.

JoeyA

 

[elvicash]

I posted this before cj said anything about toi. I need royalties.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?p=1450010&highlight=inside+english#post1450010

Post# 3 :thumbup:

Sounds to me like the counterman needs royalties.

 

[alphadog]

Me and my buddy are always being a signed one dollar bill.

Jaden

I guess you can truly "be" anything you want to! LOL

 

[JoeyA]

That's correct, and why I prefer NOT to use "english" associated with TOI - "english" is "spin" and TOI is DEFLECTION.....the principles are the same in golf, and of course the game's are different. Wind is not much of an issue in pool either. My comparison is purely about creating zones through "moving" the ball in one direction or the other.



CJ,
No offense, but if I have the choice between a fit bird and a fit bloke photo, just send me a special-signed photo of Mary Avina. :wink:

JoeyA