I Don't Remember So Many Skids on old cloth
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According to the experts, skid occurs when chalk on a ball at the contact point creates an unusual amount of collision-induced throw on the object ball. That tells me that the cloth has no effect since the throw occurs the instant the balls contact each other and ceases at the separation of the balls a thousandth of a second later.
Since it happens at slower shot speeds, maybe you see it more often now because we're hitting them softer on the fast cloth? Just a guess.
Since it happens at slower shot speeds, maybe you see it more often now because we're hitting them softer on the fast cloth? Just a guess.
One possibility is that the older, fuzzy cloth was better at taking chalk off the balls as they move across the cloth.
I feel that the slower cloth produced MORE skids at a slow speed.
I think I used to over-cut everything unless hitting it fairly hard.
On fine cloth, the balls hit so nice, that a skid is now a shocker rather
than an everyday occurrence.
I would think that slow= more friction. Maybe that friction "absorbed" the skid, and the faster cloth with less friction lets it happen more.
LOL. You're probably right. Johnnyt
Yes, I heard him say that a lot. Johnnyt
I would think that the tighter the knap of the cloth, the more skid. Skidding is affected by speed, spin, and lack of friction. Clean, smooth balls will skid more on cloth that does not present more surface area from a friction standpoint. Just my opinion.
I await comments about my statement above concerning skidding balls! LOL
I await comments about my statement above concerning skidding balls! LOL
Skid is just an unusual amount of throw. Cloth condition doesn't affect skid or throw, but it can make it more or less obvious.
The object ball slides a little on every shot, but the sliding doesn't change its direction. It just slides a little farther than normal when skid happens, which makes it more obvious than usual, and this is the reason for the misconception that sliding is the cause of the extra throw (and therefore that cloth condition might affect it).
pj
chgo
He also said it was easier to open up the rack with the new cloth.
Yes I heard that too. It must have been in an interview or artical about him as I never met the man.
These threads on "skid" always seem to end up with people talking about two different things. To me skid involves what PJ is talking about - cling or throw induced by the increased friction of two balls when the point of contact is affected by something like a chalk mark. This is different than how far a ball might slide before it starts rolling due to the type of cloth being used.
Yes, that's the distinction I was trying to make between "skid" and "slide". Similar terminology makes these topics harder to discuss for sure - like "deflection" vs. "squirt".
pj
chgo
I remember the old napped cloth, such as Brunsco. I seem to remember that it did not skid as much as today's Simonis. I always thought that was because the older cloth was was a bit more slippery and that skid would not happen as much as on cloth with more grip, like the modern. But it's hard to compare the two, as we always play on the newer coth now.
Johhny, get some new undies that are tight and don't creep up on ya.
Ya'll should be good for a week or so.
Ya'll should be good for a week or so.