I like my Everest tip but.......

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cswann1

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I've had Everest tips before and like them but I'm always trying cheaper tips to see if I can find a tip that I like really well and can save a few bucks on.

I bought some tips from American Cowboy Billiards that are called Black Diamond tips. They are advertised as a layered buffalo leather tip. While these are very inexpensive, I think they play pretty darn well but you have to buy 10 to get 3 or 4 good ones in my experience.

I also tried some Hercules. They're pretty good to, but harder than I really like.


So recently I got an OB2 with the Schon joint, which comes with an Everest.
Last night I was shooting and I noticed that I can use my Cuetec tapper to rough up the tip and within a game or two, the surface is as slick as a cue ball almost. It holds chalk OK and I don't have issues with miscues (yes, I'm a poet and I know it), but I just don't seem to be able to get the action I want unless I get the tapper back out and rough up the tip again.


Can anyone recommend a tip that is medium hard, holds shape well and really "bites" the cue ball without having to do constant maintenance?


Edit: What about Kamui and Moori? I'm always leery of the high-dollar stuff for fear of getting a product that is no better than the mid-range for a lot more money spent. Are these worth the extra dough with regard to action?
 
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I have an OB 1 also with the Everest tip...
I have tried alot of tips , including the Moori,
but have always come back to the Everest ...
 
I've been using a sniper for at least a year and a half. It's about time now to replace it - finally. I play over 20 hrs a week. It never mushroomed. Maybe every 10 hours I tip pick it. Every blue moon I'll shape it to get more curvature. I know they're on the expensive side, but that's a LOT of play with great results and minimal maintenance.
 
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I've been using a sniper for at least a year and a half. It's about time now to replace it - finally. I play over 20 hrs a week. It never mushroomed. Maybe every 10 hours I tip pick it. Every blue moon I'll shape it to get more curvature. I know they're on the expensive side, but that's a LOT of play with great results and minimal maintenance.
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i have been using snipers for about ten years. great tips never a problem.

but i was thinging of trying the emerald as they are made by tiger in the same fashion as sniper. just with recycled pigskin. OP wanted to save money and thats why i asked if he had tried emerald tips.
 
cswann1 said:
I've had Everest tips before and like them but I'm always trying cheaper tips to see if I can find a tip that I like really well and can save a few bucks on.

I bought some tips from American Cowboy Billiards that are called Black Diamond tips. They are advertised as a layered buffalo leather tip. While these are very inexpensive, I think they play pretty darn well but you have to buy 10 to get 3 or 4 good ones in my experience.

I also tried some Hercules. They're pretty good to, but harder than I really like.


So recently I got an OB2 with the Schon joint, which comes with an Everest.
Last night I was shooting and I noticed that I can use my Cuetec tapper to rough up the tip and within a game or two, the surface is as slick as a cue ball almost. It holds chalk OK and I don't have issues with miscues (yes, I'm a poet and I know it), but I just don't seem to be able to get the action I want unless I get the tapper back out and rough up the tip again.


Can anyone recommend a tip that is medium hard, holds shape well and really "bites" the cue ball without having to do constant maintenance?


Edit: What about Kamui and Moori? I'm always leery of the high-dollar stuff for fear of getting a product that is no better than the mid-range for a lot more money spent. Are these worth the extra dough with regard to action?
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If you are looking for a less expensive tip, then I'd recommend Wizard tips. They're comparable to Moori Mediums in hit, durability, and holding chalk (I've played with both).

But if you are willing to spend a few extra bucks, then I'd recommend Kamui. They are one of the best tips out there right now... I can't really think of one better, although I'd say Sniper is about on the same level. But Snipers are a little too hard for my taste. I use Kamui Mediums (and Diamond chalk) and I'm not sure if it's one or the other, but I never have issues with my tip holding chalk anymore. This is just my experience though.

Hope that helps,
Ray
 
BigCat said:
If you are looking for a less expensive tip, then I'd recommend Wizard tips. They're comparable to Moori Mediums in hit, durability, and holding chalk (I've played with both).

But if you are willing to spend a few extra bucks, then I'd recommend Kamui. They are one of the best tips out there right now... I can't really think of one better, although I'd say Sniper is about on the same level. But Snipers are a little too hard for my taste. I use Kamui Mediums (and Diamond chalk) and I'm not sure if it's one or the other, but I never have issues with my tip holding chalk anymore. This is just my experience though.

Hope that helps,
Ray
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Hey Ray, how's the durability and maintenance on the Kamui medium?

When I switched out my tip that was 34 years old, lol, that came with my cue and I have no clue what it was - I switched to sniper. It was harder and it was a little adjustment.

What might a little softer tip do performance wise?


Thanks,

Matt
 
Thanks guys.

I don't mind paying more if I feel I'm getting my money's worth.

I think I'm going to get a kamui and an Emerald and install them on a couple of Schon shafts and give them a ride.
 
cswann1 said:
I've had Everest tips before and like them but I'm always trying cheaper tips to see if I can find a tip that I like really well and can save a few bucks on.

I bought some tips from American Cowboy Billiards that are called Black Diamond tips. They are advertised as a layered buffalo leather tip. While these are very inexpensive, I think they play pretty darn well but you have to buy 10 to get 3 or 4 good ones in my experience.

I also tried some Hercules. They're pretty good to, but harder than I really like.


So recently I got an OB2 with the Schon joint, which comes with an Everest.
Last night I was shooting and I noticed that I can use my Cuetec tapper to rough up the tip and within a game or two, the surface is as slick as a cue ball almost. It holds chalk OK and I don't have issues with miscues (yes, I'm a poet and I know it), but I just don't seem to be able to get the action I want unless I get the tapper back out and rough up the tip again.


Can anyone recommend a tip that is medium hard, holds shape well and really "bites" the cue ball without having to do constant maintenance?


Edit: What about Kamui and Moori? I'm always leery of the high-dollar stuff for fear of getting a product that is no better than the mid-range for a lot more money spent. Are these worth the extra dough with regard to action?
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I have had a similar problem over the last couple of years. I own a pro-shop / cue building and repair shop attached to my pool hall so I can honestly say I have tried them all. But what I have found is that as Medium tips break in they become a Hard Tip, and hard tips become super hard. So I started using Moori Soft tips, and I totally love them, once they break in they are a medium, and near the end of their life they become a medium hard. They grab the ball well and while they will mushroom a little during break in they need very little to know maintenance after that except the use of a Tip Pick. Oh and by the way, the mushrooming can be reduced a great deal if the tip is pressed in a vise before installation, I do this for all my customers on every tip I install.

Take care
 
cswann1 said:
I've had Everest tips before and like them but I'm always trying cheaper tips to see if I can find a tip that I like really well and can save a few bucks on.

I bought some tips from American Cowboy Billiards that are called Black Diamond tips. They are advertised as a layered buffalo leather tip. While these are very inexpensive, I think they play pretty darn well but you have to buy 10 to get 3 or 4 good ones in my experience.

I also tried some Hercules. They're pretty good to, but harder than I really like.


So recently I got an OB2 with the Schon joint, which comes with an Everest.
Last night I was shooting and I noticed that I can use my Cuetec tapper to rough up the tip and within a game or two, the surface is as slick as a cue ball almost. It holds chalk OK and I don't have issues with miscues (yes, I'm a poet and I know it), but I just don't seem to be able to get the action I want unless I get the tapper back out and rough up the tip again.


Can anyone recommend a tip that is medium hard, holds shape well and really "bites" the cue ball without having to do constant maintenance?


Edit: What about Kamui and Moori? I'm always leery of the high-dollar stuff for fear of getting a product that is no better than the mid-range for a lot more money spent. Are these worth the extra dough with regard to action?
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PM me your address and I will send you a Milk Dud for FREE....My Milk Duds are the NUTS!!!
 
cswann1 said:
I've had Everest tips before and like them but I'm always trying cheaper tips to see if I can find a tip that I like really well and can save a few bucks on.

I bought some tips from American Cowboy Billiards that are called Black Diamond tips. They are advertised as a layered buffalo leather tip. While these are very inexpensive, I think they play pretty darn well but you have to buy 10 to get 3 or 4 good ones in my experience.
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I gave up on cheap tips long ago. That is why I don't install tips which you get only 1 good in 3 if lucky.
Not sure if still available, SuperPro are a hard tip.I like the way they play and were very cheap.Also make a great break tip.Hold chalk well.
Wizzard are OK,and reasonably priced.I like Med
Tiger make good tips.They have an inexpensive emerald tip. They are good for the money.
Talisman are also good tips. I like med to soft
Moori are good too.I like med to soft.
I have not tried a Kamui tip, or a cue with one on.So no comment.
It seems that most cheaper tips fall down some where, maybe not hold chalk so well , only a few install and play well.
The problem with inconsistant cue tips is, how do you know you got a good , bad or average tip?
There are alot of tips on the market now, and what one might like , others disslike.
Neil
 
I compress my own duds, med to med hard. They last at least a couple of years unless I think they play to hard. They hold chalk well, spin whitey as good as any tip and cost less than a dollar. If you like spending the bucks, go right ahead.

Rod
 
I've tried many of the medium tips on the market in the past two years: Moori, Sniper, Talisman Pro, Kamui brown, Hercules, Triumph & Everest. All seemed to be a little too soft for my taste. I switched over to Wizard M and I've been very satisfied. It works great on my 3/8-10 wood joint McDermott, so I just installed another one on my Joss. The steel joint and capped ferrule seem to make it feel harder, but it's still my favorite. Plenty of spin, even with my poor stroke, and they hold their shape very well. Best buy in a layered tip IMO.

Bill
 
Superpros are the best tip for the money!

Even a pressed triangle is a good tip.

The more I play with an expensive tip the more I hate them. I really liked the KBM's but the old everest were good just like the original moori's.

But you have to think about something and this is the way I like to look at replacing a tip. A cue was built, said cue was meant to have a certain hit, matching the tip to the cue for feel is hard but worth the investment in time to me. Every player likes a different feel, but actually making it happen is hard to accomplish. I know what I like doesn't mean you will.
 
conetip said:
I gave up on cheap tips long ago. That is why I don't install tips which you get only 1 good in 3 if lucky.

The problem with inconsistant cue tips is, how do you know you got a good , bad or average tip?
There are alot of tips on the market now, and what one might like , others disslike.
Neil
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Your first & second sentence and the following question in the above quote are in somewhat of a conflict with each other. I mean, if you don't know if you are putting on a good or a bad tip, what difference does it make if it's a cheap tip or not??? You could concievably get an expensive tip that is bad. Then, you follow this up with the ever-so-true statement that what one may like, others may dislike. So, in essence, there is no such thing as a BAD tip. Only the one that you like, or another may like. I personally (and yes, I have tried MANY different tips) prefer a Triangle tip. I love them. Many dislike them. I once put a semi-expensive layered tip on one of my shafts to try it out and the next day cut it off and re-installed my good 'ol Triangle ( "cheap" tip). $12 down the drain :(.

Funny to me that this good tip/bad tip conversation comes up so much (ditto the good hitting cue/bad hitting cue topic). I buy Triangles in a box of 50 tips. I do not put them in a glass of water to see which ones are "superior" to the others. I just pull one out of the box and install it (I may or may not press it first). I have not, as yet, cut off an installed Triangle because I felt it played badly.

People are diverse in their opinions/preferences. There isn't any good tip/bad tip or good cue/bad cue arguments (at least there SHOULD'NT be any) that have any merit. There is only what you like and what others like.

Maniac
 
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