If It's True $ Was Held Back From MC

[elvicash]

I do not think matchroom is in any danger of going broke. They seem to run an event at the highest level and have their finding in place before they start.

 

[justadub]

For fvck sakes, either tells us this big secret or don't, but these vague threads and posts are becoming very fatboy-ish.

We went thru a whole Mosconi Cup season, build up, matchtime and fallout afterwards, with zero Fatboy commentary.

Strange.....

 

[Philthepockets]

Wow, always amazes me how many on here have no clue that Matchroom and their events are a private enterprise/business and nothing they do has anything to do with anyone here. They answer to their sponsors and no one else, end of.

 

[Nostroke]

Wow, always amazes me how many on here have no clue that Matchroom and their events are a private enterprise/business and nothing they do has anything to do with anyone here. They answer to their sponsors and no one else, end of.

What tournaments are put on that are not private enterprise/business?

 

[Blue Hog ridr]

And no i won't reveal what is going on, it's not mine nor your business to reveal what is going on. Have respect for Barry and Luke and what they decide to do with there in house business is entirely up to them.

In a couple or three threads started after the Mosconi Cup, a few people made mention of knowing some little secrets.

It seems that most of these secrets were let out in the after hours party bar that everyone
frequented.

And no doubt under the influence of the Devil's water. It was like, hey, I'll tell you something but promise me that under no circumstances will you tell anyone else.

And then onto the next person. If anything that important was let out of the bag, it was
never meant to be a secret in the first place.

And if truly a secret from the top, no one but the few people involved would know about it.

People like to mention in passing that they know something that no one else knows.

Ya know, mercenary Samurais aren't going to pay you a visit and lop off your heads.

Or the Corleones won't leave a horse head in your bed to wake up to.

If one has something to add, say it or keep it to yourself. Pretty simple.

Just by saying that you know a secret but won't tell, you've already blown it by 50 percent.

I guess its just my old biker days that warns me that even if I knew something, you don't let on to anyone that you are in the know. That in itself can get you in a pile of trouble.

Terry - Not losing any sleep over Mosconi Cup Secrets.

 

[KoolKat9Lives]

We went thru a whole Mosconi Cup season, build up, matchtime and fallout afterwards, with zero Fatboy commentary.

Strange.....

Fatboy is an enigma wrapped in phyllo dough. I hope the conflicted,knucklehead man is doing well. The pool world misses him, as do many of his friends. As F'd up as he and we may be.

 

[Blue Hog ridr]

Fatboy is an enigma wrapped in phyllo dough.

That would make him either a Spanokopita or a Baklava.

I make Baklava better than the little old Greek ladies do.

 

[KoolKat9Lives]

That would make him either a Spanokopita or a Baklava.

I make Baklava better than the little old Greek ladies do.

Coming from a Scratchcatchalanian in Canada, I won't be the first in line at
3rd grader bakery sale day. Someone will probably put that green spice in it to promote further sales.

 

[sjm]

If you want to believe checks were docked due to behavioral problems, go ahead.

If you want to take a step up to the real issues, that might be fruitful.

Pools dirty secrets. Until there is not a necessity to fight over a nut, then US pro pool is limited. Pro pool needs a Daddy with a paddle to grow.

Pool's dirty secrets are not the real issue, KK9.

The real issue, and whether there has been any foul play or not is irrelevant, is the state of the American pro pool product.

There's an old, make that ancient, joke that goes "How many psychoanalysts does it take to change a light bulb?" The well known answer is that "unless the light bulb really wants to change, no number of them will suffice." And so it is with American pool professionals. The emergence in pool of a Daddy with a paddle will have no impact at all unless American pool professionals really want to change. That's the real issue and, at least for the moment, there is little evidence that they do.

 

[Blue Hog ridr]

Someone will probably put that green spice in it to promote further sales.

Well KK, were pretty much just farmers up here and the green stuff is something else that we do well at.

Just replace the spinach in a Spnokoita. All the more reason to eat them.

Little green Greek Buzz snacks.

 

[Maniac]

In a couple or three threads started after the Mosconi Cup, a few people made mention of knowing some little secrets.

What??? There were threads about the Mosconi Cup after it was over???

How did I miss them ???

Maniac

 

[richiebalto]

In a couple or three threads started after the Mosconi Cup, a few people made mention of knowing some little secrets.

It seems that most of these secrets were let out in the after hours party bar that everyone
frequented.

And no doubt under the influence of the Devil's water. It was like, hey, I'll tell you something but promise me that under no circumstances will you tell anyone else.

And then onto the next person. If anything that important was let out of the bag, it was
never meant to be a secret in the first place.

And if truly a secret from the top, no one but the few people involved would know about it.

People like to mention in passing that they know something that no one else knows.

Ya know, mercenary Samurais aren't going to pay you a visit and lop off your heads.

Or the Corleones won't leave a horse head in your bed to wake up to.

If one has something to add, say it or keep it to yourself. Pretty simple.

Just by saying that you know a secret but won't tell, you've already blown it by 50 percent.

I guess its just my old biker days that warns me that even if I knew something, you don't let on to anyone that you are in the know. That in itself can get you in a pile of trouble.

Terry - Not losing any sleep over Mosconi Cup Secrets.

I agree Terry, very good post!

 

[KoolKat9Lives]

Pool's dirty secrets are not the real issue, KK9.

The real issue, and whether there has been any foul play or not is irrelevant, is the state of the American pro pool product.

There's an old, make that ancient, joke that goes "How many psychoanalysts does it take to change a light bulb?" The well known answer is that "unless the light bulb really wants to change, no number of them will suffice." And so it is with American pool professionals. The emergence in pool of a Daddy with a paddle will have no impact at all unless American pool professionals really want to change. That's the real issue and, at least for the moment, there is little evidence that they do.

I take every word you write seriously Stu. But what I bolded above I disagree with. Until Daddy with a paddle, a checkbook and a triple verified promise comes to the forefront? Pro pool stays where it is, while too much snake oil gets the limelight of the day.

It's the year of snake oil. From which I trust and believe much better for US Pro pool will become. What doesn't kill you...

 

[Jaden]

mercenary samurai is an OxyMoron

In a couple or three threads started after the Mosconi Cup, a few people made mention of knowing some little secrets.

It seems that most of these secrets were let out in the after hours party bar that everyone
frequented.

And no doubt under the influence of the Devil's water. It was like, hey, I'll tell you something but promise me that under no circumstances will you tell anyone else.

And then onto the next person. If anything that important was let out of the bag, it was
never meant to be a secret in the first place.

And if truly a secret from the top, no one but the few people involved would know about it.

People like to mention in passing that they know something that no one else knows.

Ya know, mercenary Samurais aren't going to pay you a visit and lop off your heads.

Or the Corleones won't leave a horse head in your bed to wake up to.

If one has something to add, say it or keep it to yourself. Pretty simple.

Just by saying that you know a secret but won't tell, you've already blown it by 50 percent.

I guess its just my old biker days that warns me that even if I knew something, you don't let on to anyone that you are in the know. That in itself can get you in a pile of trouble.

Terry - Not losing any sleep over Mosconi Cup Secrets.

Samurai weren't mercenary. They were beholden to their Lord. Most who lost their Lord committed sepukku.there weren't tons of ronin running around selling their swords. The ones who did have mercenary sensibilities may have joined Ninja clans but even that is unlikely and would make them beholden to the clan and not to the highest bidder.

Jaden

 

[PINKLADY]

Pool's dirty secrets are not the real issue, KK9.

The real issue, and whether there has been any foul play or not is irrelevant, is the state of the American pro pool product.

There's an old, make that ancient, joke that goes "How many psychoanalysts does it take to change a light bulb?" The well known answer is that "unless the light bulb really wants to change, no number of them will suffice." And so it is with American pool professionals. The emergence in pool of a Daddy with a paddle will have no impact at all unless American pool professionals really want to change. That's the real issue and, at least for the moment, there is little evidence that they do.

the bottom line is, IMO -

regardless of what did/didn't go down (and whether it affected our personal consumer pocketbooks!), the players should be investing in their FUTURE. and not playing for TODAY.

some do.
some don't.

PL <---- this will be my last $4K dropped on Mosconi; albeit worth it.

 

[KoolKat9Lives]

In a couple or three threads started after the Mosconi Cup, a few people made mention of knowing some little secrets.

It seems that most of these secrets were let out in the after hours party bar that everyone
frequented.

And no doubt under the influence of the Devil's water. It was like, hey, I'll tell you something but promise me that under no circumstances will you tell anyone else.

And then onto the next person. If anything that important was let out of the bag, it was
never meant to be a secret in the first place.

And if truly a secret from the top, no one but the few people involved would know about it.

People like to mention in passing that they know something that no one else knows.

Ya know, mercenary Samurais aren't going to pay you a visit and lop off your heads.

Or the Corleones won't leave a horse head in your bed to wake up to.

If one has something to add, say it or keep it to yourself. Pretty simple.

Just by saying that you know a secret but won't tell, you've already blown it by 50 percent.

I guess its just my old biker days that warns me that even if I knew something, you don't let on to anyone that you are in the know. That in itself can get you in a pile of trouble.

Terry - Not losing any sleep over Mosconi Cup Secrets.

Terry,

"We're" not allowed to "speculate" publically. That's what PM's are for.

Else my phone stops ringing and I go back to being a common citizen that ran 5 balls once.

KK9 <-- wonders how much energy he desires to break the cycle of secrets

 

[KoolKat9Lives]

the bottom line is, IMO -

regardless of what did/didn't go down (and whether it affected our personal consumer pocketbooks!), the players should be investing in their FUTURE. and not playing for TODAY.

some do.
some don't.

PL <---- this will be my last $4K dropped on Mosconi; albeit worth it.

I'll be doing a saver on our $4k next time too. Unless...

 

[sjm]

I take every word you write seriously Stu. But what I bolded above I disagree with. Until Daddy with a paddle, a checkbook and a triple verified promise comes to the forefront? Pro pool stays where it is, while too much snake oil gets the limelight of the day.

It's the year of snake oil. From which I trust and believe much better for US Pro pool will become. What doesn't kill you...

We're not far apart here, KK9.

My point is that even if a Daddy shows up with deep pockets and a triple verified promise, it may not be enough. Even if somebody chooses to invest heavily in American pool, they can and will pull out quickly if their business model doesn't work.

The future of pool in America depends on whether somebody can make pool's business model work in America, not on whether somebody with deep pockets takes a shot at it. As long as American pro players, through their behavior, show insufficient respect for those who invest in pool (see 2013 Mosconi Cup), there remains, in my opinion, a huge impediment to making that business model work.

... and that's what's bothering me.

 

[PINKLADY]

We're not far apart here, KK9.

My point is that even if a Daddy shows up with deep pockets and a triple verified promise, it may not be enough. Even if somebody chooses to invest heavily in American pool, they can and will pull out quickly if their business model doesn't work.

The future of pool in America depends on whether somebody can make pool's business model work in America, not on whether somebody with deep pockets takes a shot at it. As long as American pro players, through their behavior, show insufficient respect for those who invest in pool (see 2013 Mosconi Cup), there remains, in my opinion, a huge impediment to making that business model work.

... and that's what's bothering me.

oh r-e-a-l-l-y...? WOW, what a c-o-n-c-e-p-t?!?!

WHO, in their right minds, would throw away their entire tomorrow(s) - for one single yesterday?

but what do we know, Stu? we just work for a living.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXV_QjenbDw

 

[KoolKat9Lives]

We're not far apart here, KK9.

My point is that even if a Daddy shows up with deep pockets and a triple verified promise, it may not be enough. Even if somebody chooses to invest heavily in American pool, they can and will pull out quickly if their business model doesn't work.

The future of pool in America depends on whether somebody can make pool's business model work in America, not on whether somebody with deep pockets takes a shot at it. As long as American pro players, through their behavior, show insufficient respect for those who invest in pool (see 2013 Mosconi Cup), there remains, in my opinion, a huge impediment to making that business model work.

... and that's what's bothering me.

The economy, combined with decades of deceptive culture? US Pro pool will ride a mule for years IMO. I truly get what you say @ behavior. But that behavior is a reaction to the state of "the union".