I'm back..and I'm pissed !

Thanks Ken, I really miss him too !..Speaking of the Beard, there may be some newcomer's who aren't aware of his great website, which is still active and well worthwhile ! > www.bankingwiththebeard.com

For those who love war stories, (who doesn't ?).. there are a ton of them ! Most written in Freddies inimitable style of irreverent humor !..Click onto the main page, scroll down on the right side, (under Freddy's Blog) 'til you come to "War Stories, None by Oliver North"...You'll find several by 'yours truly', which Fred included long before we began our feud ! (#5, 6, 7 I believe)...Check 'em out !

Why did you and Freddie feud?

You mentioned several times you didn't get along, at least on the one-pocket forum. Can you tell why, or is it classified information?

You joined the one pocket site in March of 2013 and you act like you don't know anything? I think this is less than a full verity.

I'll give you a short version of the answer you seek:

One of them wanted to rub shoulders with top players and be known to and by them. The other was a top player.

ONB
 
punter,

Do you know SJD? Do you only know him from his posts here and on the 1 pocket site? CJ's ego in very apparent in his every post. His avatar is always a pic of him, his posts are always about him, can't get more desperate for attention than that.

Do please show me one post from anywhere that you think SJD was bragging in.

You say SJD is in the HOF because of Freddy? Are you aware that Dick told voters for years NOT to vote for him because he himself thought others more worthy? Did you know that? CJ would never do that.

You say Freddy was the reason Dick got in to the HOF? You say if it wasn't for Freddy's input people may have forgotten Dick? Are you kidding? He's one of the most prolific posters ever on the 1 pocket site.

One living player per year got in and here were the choices in 2011:

Shannon Daulton
'Junior' Goff
Buddy Hall
Rafael Martinez
'San Jose' Dick McMorran
Billy Palmer
Al 'Little Al' Romero

4 years ago Dick was 76. Do you think someone else on this list deserved it more than him?

Freddy also endorsed John Brumback for the 1 pocket.org Bankpool HOF. Did you read John's reply to Freddy when Freddy claimed credit for John's induction? Maybe if you were astute enough to copy it to your documents file you could read it now, like I just did.

Freddy did not get SJD elected in to the Onepocket HOF and Freddy did not get Brumback elected in to the Bankpool HOF. They both earned those kudos with their accomplishments.

ONB

OK, it's becoming obvious that ONB is SJD's second ID.

I remember when Dick first started posting on OP.org, he didn't come out of his shell and show his obnoxious self for the first few months. Although I had heard of his rep, IMO he wouldn't have gotten put in the HOF if it was not for Freddy's input.

As most know Dick quit the game and worked for about 20 years. So, not a whole lot of people were familiar with him. He repeatedly declined to talk about his past record, saying he didn't want to brag. But that doesn't mean his ego didn't trumpet out for all to see in short order.

His brag came in his vicious attacks of Freddy B. Specifically about his beat list, and he wasn't shy about saying he probably would have beaten Artie B. had they played in their primes. Yeah, he bragged plenty although he claimed to dislike it. What he really disliked was other people bragging and getting the spotlight.

I asked him once about several of the guys that I figured would have been his contemporaries, and he basically ignored the request. Another poster brought up the fact that SJD had played Fats a session. That would have made a nice story, but Dick couldn't have been bothered to offer it himself.

As far as Brumback is concerned, he made one negative post about Freddy, that I saw, which he later edited. You, Dick, made thousands. And comparing your self to Brumback is laughable. He is more current than you, and he competed in and has won top level competitions in Banks. He is considered to be the best at his 'niche' game (as you call it). Putting him in the Banks HOF was a slamdunk. Now you, what tournaments did you play in? There may not have been as many, but why did you never compete at Johnston City. Were you scared?

And there are several guys that probably deserved the OP HOF more than you Dick, I'll just throw out one name, Danny Jones. He gave a ton more to the game that you ever did, and I believe he won the overall at Johnston City.

And this thing with CJ, it's easy to see it's plain jealousy of a former player, and a guy that was a lot better than SJD ever was. He is a former World No. 1. Once again Dick can't stand it when someone else is getting attention. Maybe you were that good Dick, but you didn't prove it, at least not so anyone would notice.
 
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Why didn't these two get along? Was it something done, or said?

Freddy was very well liked and respected at OP.org. He was old school pool and told a lot of stories and got a lot of attention. That's what he did to Dick. Why doesn't he get along with you CJ? Probably along the same lines as why he didn't get along with Freddy.
 
his doesn't mean he wasn't a good player, he was just before my time

Freddy was very well liked and respected at OP.org. He was old school pool and told a lot of stories and got a lot of attention. That's what he did to Dick. Why doesn't he get along with you CJ? Probably along the same lines as why he didn't get along with Freddy.

I have no idea why he doesn't get along with me, until this forum I'd not heard of him. He does seem uncomfortable about hearing other player's accomplishments, and we can chalk that up to human nature.

The Pro basketball and football players I've hung out with (at Carsons) always say "it's only bragging if it isn't true" - when Michael Jordan says he's one of the best of all time, it's not bragging, he's merely stating a fact. I'm sure it would still make some insecure people feel funny inside.......and that's more about them than about Michael

This doesn't mean he wasn't a good player, he was just before my time. The ones of that era that I was familiar with was Mosconi, Eddie Taylor, Jimmy Caras, Jersey Red, Ray Martin, Dallas West, etc.
 
OK, it's becoming obvious that ONB is SJD's second ID.

I remember when Dick first started posting on OP.org, he didn't come out of his shell and show his obnoxious self for the first few months. Although I had heard of his rep, IMO he wouldn't have gotten put in the HOF if it was not for Freddy's input. Buddy Hall wouldn't have gotten in either if it wasn't for several people's input and Artie had his children register on the site and vote for him.

As most know Dick quit the game and worked for about 20 years. So, not a whole lot of people were familiar with him. He repeatedly declined to talk about his past record, saying he didn't want to brag. But that doesn't mean his ego didn't trumpet out for all to see in short order.Actually this is exactly what that means.

His brag came in his vicious attacks of Freddy B. Specifically about his beat listThe only player in history with a "beat list"., and he wasn't shy about saying he probably would have beaten Artie B. had they played in their primesDo show us an example of these posts you claim to exist.. Yeah, he bragged plenty although he claimed to dislike it.Do show us these posts you claim to exist. They are available for all to see. What he really disliked was other people bragging and getting the spotlight.

I asked him once about several of the guys that I figured would have been his contemporaries, and he basically ignored the request.Did you cry? Another poster brought up the fact that SJD had played Fats a session. That would have made a nice story, but Dick couldn't have been bothered to offer it himself.The story is in S,M, & S, buy one and read it.

As far as Brumback is concerned, he made one negative post about Freddy, that I saw, which he later edited.So you haven't read it lately, you're just going on memory? You, Dick, made thousands.I can't lie any longer, I am Dick. And comparing your self to Brumback is laughable. He is more current than youWWI is more current than me., and he competed in and has won top level competitions in Banks. He is considered to be the best at his 'niche' game (as you call it). Putting him in the Banks HOF was a slamdunk.JB wouldn't bet his own quarter that he was alive. Now you, what tournaments did you play in? There may not have been as many, but why did you never compete at Johnston City. Were you scared?I was mortified, petrified, and stupefied by fear.Tremblin' in my shoes.

And there are several guys that probably deserved the OP HOF more than you Dick, I'll just throw out one name, Danny Jones. He gave a ton more to the game that you ever did, and I believe he won the overall at Johnston City.I didn't know the overall at JC qualified someone to be elected into the One-Pocket HOF.

And this thing with CJ, it's easy to see it's plain jealousy of a former player, and a guy that was a lot better than SJD ever was.You got me, I give up. He is a former World No. 1. Once again Dick can't stand it when someone else is getting attention. Maybe you were that good Dick, but you didn't prove it, at least not so anyone would notice.Then why am I mentioned in S,M, & S at least 4 times (with some pics included) and CJ and Freddy and Artie aren't in it even one time?

Dick joined the 1 pocket site in Dec. 2007. He was still known as "Dick McMorran" then instead of "SJDinPHX".

Danny Jones did not win the 1 pocket event the year he won the overall. Why would he be in the 1 pocket HOF?

Here are a couple of posts from the HOF thread for 2008 (voted on in 2007):
wincardona said:
Thank you to everyone that voted to induct me into the Hall. It's an honor that I will always treasure. "Onepocket, it's an epodemic and there ain't no cure"
Merry Christmas to all. See you in Kentucky.
Dick Mc Morran said:
Hi Billy,
Do you remember a long time ago (the sixties) when I took you down to pick
up a shipment of your merchandise. It was in FT. Worth. I have always
admired your hustle and business acumen. It's been a while since our paths
have crossed, but I wish you the very best. Congratulations on your nomination to the HOF. It is well deserved.

Dick

Actually I took you down to pick up a U-Haul truck. You had a huge shipment
of kitchen utensils coming in. You always hustled hard.
wincardona said:
Hi Dick,thanks again for the lift and your support.You have always been a credit to the game and also a good choice for a nomination for the one pocket hall of fame.
Merry Christmas,and God bless you , Bill Incardona
Dick Mc McMorran said:
Hi Bill and thanks for your kind words but there are many more players more
deserving than myself to be nominated for the one pocket HOF.
I took a 20 year hiatus from the game while you and others remained in the
trenchs.
At my advanced age it is great to re-establish contact with some old friends
(and even adversaries.) I cannot make it to this years DCC, but I am looking
forward to next years for sure. There are simply to many of the old guard
still above ground, and it would be great to see them all.
Best regards and have a happy and prosperous New Year.
Dick



ONB/SJD
 
Danny Jones was a great player and a respectful man with style and class.

To the Danny Jones fans:

Danny Jones was a great player and respectful man - he always dressed and acted with style and class.

We had some interesting times together, at some point I'll share how he influenced me at a very early stage in my career.
 
Dick joined the 1 pocket site in Dec. 2007. He was still known as "Dick McMorran" then instead of "SJDinPHX".

Danny Jones did not win the 1 pocket event the year he won the overall. Why would he be in the 1 pocket HOF?

Here are a couple of posts from the HOF thread for 2008 (voted on in 2007):







ONB/SJD

Ok, Dick, thanks for coming out of the closet. But Wilson may not like it that you are posting under two names. And Dick, quit 'not bragging' so much, I can't stand it.

What did you ever do for the game of one pocket? Danny devoted his whole life to pool and one pocket was one of his best games. I'm sure you ducked him for life, is that where you got your 'Duck' nickname?
 
well you probably should have kept that to yourself and just retired that persona...

Dick joined the 1 pocket site in Dec. 2007. He was still known as "Dick McMorran" then instead of "SJDinPHX".

Danny Jones did not win the 1 pocket event the year he won the overall. Why would he be in the 1 pocket HOF?

Here are a couple of posts from the HOF thread for 2008 (voted on in 2007):







ONB/SJD

Considering that both of your personas are probably about to take another vacation, you might have wanted to keep that to yourself and just retired the ONB persona...

I don't see how they can let an admission to a blatant rules violation go unchecked...

Jaden
 
Freddy did not get Dick into the HOF, to me that is pure bs plain and simple although Freddy would have liked to take credit for that along with John Brumback being inducted. Dick is well known at onepocket.org and many posters knew of his skill and abilities along with him being mentioned in the one pocket bible and the Accu-Stats of him beating Cliff Joyner. In the words of Billy I., "Any questions?". :grin-square:
 
To the Danny Jones fans:

Danny Jones was a great player and respectful man - he always dressed and acted with style and class.

We had some interesting times together, at some point I'll share how he influenced me at a very early stage in my career.

All of your fanboys know there's no chance that you won't take any opportunity ever to trumpet your own name here.

ONB/SJD
 
For any doubters as to my prowess, from Jan. 2008:
Grady said:
Dick McMorran is "San Jose Dick's" name but I don't think he's 80. A very fine One Pocket player, as in maybe one ball under the best players in the world, originally from Canada but played much at Cochran's and in San Jose, now lives in Phoenix.

ONB/SJD
 
For any doubters as to my prowess, from Jan. 2008:


ONB/SJD

No doubt in my mind, he is held in high regard in Arizona and much of the west coast by the old timers. If he posted a beat list, made some DVDs and books he might be internationally known but many guys out there were known mainly in their territory and not at all outside of it just like Artie who was in Chicago or Mike Eufemia from New York and so on. With the internet people are getting exposed to player from all over the country which is why Freddy was so well known but he certainly was not at Dicks level of play all around.
 
So SHD is really ONB?

Ok, Dick, thanks for coming out of the closet. But Wilson may not like it that you are posting under two names. And Dick, quit 'not bragging' so much, I can't stand it.

What did you ever do for the game of one pocket? Danny devoted his whole life to pool and one pocket was one of his best games. I'm sure you ducked him for life, is that where you got your 'Duck' nickname?

So SHD is really ONB?

Wow, that's a curve ball I wasn't expecting!!!

It certainly explains the bitterness, and jealousy radiating through his posts. :)
 
Ok, Dick, thanks for coming out of the closet. But Wilson may not like it that you are posting under two names. And Dick, quit 'not bragging' so much, I can't stand it.

What did you ever do for the game of one pocket? Danny devoted his whole life to pool and one pocket was one of his best games. I'm sure you ducked him for life, is that where you got your 'Duck' nickname?

Considering that both of your personas are probably about to take another vacation, you might have wanted to keep that to yourself and just retired the ONB persona...

I don't see how they can let an admission to a blatant rules violation go unchecked...

Jaden

Wow, you guys saw right through the subterfuge. I suppose you both know how gravity is transmitted to objects also. Do tell. The finest scientific minds in history would like to know.

"punter", you claim to know SJD (me) from the 1 pocket site but you don't even know why they call me the Duck? Everybody on 1 pocket.org knows why. I think you are fibbing about one or the other.

"Jaden", you are a f**king genius. Do you really think that an 80 year old SJD could possibly know how to hide his IP address so the mods here didn't know he was both guys? Are you giving me/SJD that much credit? You are a genius.

Either I'm a very intelligent, sexy, computer-savy wordsmith or I'm an idiot; Pick one or the other but not both.

ONB/SJD
 
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