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Craig Fales said:
Perhaps you could find a pool hall with a billiards table or whatever else you may need to do your filming. In exchange for some advertising in the video. I don't see why you need a building to do something like this. You could probably pick up others advertisers aswell...

I need a building because of my idea, it involves a special studio. Once someone shows some interest it will be made much more clearly. It is a winner, I have been thinking of what to do with my useless talent for three years now. I have a great idea, it will take a long time to complete the video.

I am not asking for any money that will not be directly accounted for. The person can oversee any aspect of the project. I am not the Jim Baker of this game. You can trust in the fact that I want to make the video.
 
To get investors your going to need alittle more then your word.Not trying to be harsh here but any one willing to invest is going to want to see a plan on paper.Start to finish.
 
realkingcobra said:
For what it's worth, when talking to potential investors, do you have a business plan that details everything you are looking for? Does it explain how you plan to market your DVD? Does it explain how you plan on paying back the investor(s)? Does your business plan explain the "what ifs" of what can happen if something don't turn out as planed? Do you have a lawyer to take care of the investor and yourself as well....legaly? Just something to think about...IMO!:grin: I hate saying that....LOL

Glen

Yes, I have a plan, markets change daily.

Its pool, Marketing isnt that bad. I might know someone who can sell it for me...

Paying back investers, I allready said with royalties of all proceeds for a agreed shelf life.

A what if??? Does this mean in the event of my death or theirs? I hope they don't want to get their little bit of money back from my corpse. In the event of their death I would complete the work and give their part to whom specified...is this what you were asking?

Yes, a lawer. I hope I don't need one for something as small as this.

Any other questions?
 
JamisonNeu said:
I need a building because of my idea, it involves a special studio. Once someone shows some interest it will be made much more clearly. It is a winner, I have been thinking of what to do with my useless talent for three years now. I have a great idea, it will take a long time to complete the video.

I am not asking for any money that will not be directly accounted for. The person can oversee any aspect of the project. I am not the Jim Baker of this game. You can trust in the fact that I want to make the video.
I'm still puzzeled, you keep saying "make a video that takes a couple of years"...and, how much money are you talking about needing from an investor...over that 2 year period? I can tell you for sure, most potential investors don't want to wait a couple of years before they start seeing some kind of return on their money, so just curious...why so long to make a video? And, are you planing on making it HD, you are aware of the changes that are taking place Feb 09" right?

Glen
 
Nothing drastic is changing in Feb! You do not need HD! God I hate it when people say this.

People that watch TV solely on a old UHF antenna will need to get cable or satellite or something like that. That's it. Nothing more.

It causes people to panic and run out and spend thousands of dollars for no reason.
 
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NoBull9 said:
To get investors your going to need alittle more then your word.Not trying to be harsh here but any one willing to invest is going to want to see a plan on paper.Start to finish.

If I think they are willing to invest then we can work from there or if they want it on paper then I will write it down on paper.
 
Hal said:
Nothing drastic is changing in Feb! You do not need HD! God I hate it when people say this.

People that watch TV solely on a old UHF antenna will need to get cable or satellite or something like that. That's it. Nothing more.

It causes people to panic and run out and spend thousands of dollars for no reason.
Hal, if you're looking into the future of selling DVD's, then look 3 to 5 years into the future. If the DVD don't start out HD, then in the future...it may not be able to be viewed by new buyers...right?

Glen
 
It will take so long because I want to shoot all the shots I have made. I want it to take so long because I want some shots to be so hard and almost impossible that it could take a week of shooting 8 hours a day to make one shot. After the building and the cameras then that is it. I'll take care of the bills.
 
realkingcobra said:
Hal, if you're looking into the future of selling DVD's, then look 3 to 5 years into the future. If the DVD don't start out HD, then in the future...it may not be able to be viewed by new buyers...right?

Glen
Wrong. Blu-ray players are backward compatible. Although I would recommend producing the DVD in Blu-ray as well as standard DVD. That would be cool and would look great.
 
Hal said:
Wrong. Blu-ray players are backward compatible. Although I would recommend producing the DVD in Blu-ray as well as standard DVD. That would be cool and would look great.
I agree, as most on AZ are aware, I'm also making DVD's on how to work on pool tables, installing cloth, leveling, replacing cushions, extending rails....the whole 9 yards, so I've been doing a lot of background research into the DVD's, as well as pay-pal downloads.

Glen
 
I hate to piss in your cornflakes, but your potential market is quite small. It would have to be some damned amazing shots indeed to sell enough to break even. That having been said, I don't think anyone's mad enough at their money to give it to you.

When I can watch hi-res video of Semih and others for free, how are you going to sell me your amazing video?

-s

p.s. the answer is: you're not.
 
Here are a few suggestions, based on what I have read so far in this thread, and based on my 50+ years of starting and running successful startups, and helping others start & run their businesses (click here for more info on that):

1. If there is any way whatsoever that you can do this without the involvement of an outside investor, then choose that path. The worst thing an entrepreneur can do is to give up royalties, etc. when it is not absolutely necessary. It only causes problems down the road. The amount of money for the building is trivial, and you should be able to save it in short order, or to borrow the money from the bank, friends, or family, without having to give up royalties.

2. If the total amount of money you need is more than you can put together on your own, or by borrowing from bank, family, friends (without giving up royalties), then you will need something IN WRITING to present to investors. This is an absolute. Do not waste time and energy on discussing your ideas without a written business plan. No serious investor will take you seriously. The way you can get help with this (free) is to contact SCORE (the Service Corps of Retired Executives), a service of the Small Business Admnistration. You can also Google for "Business Plan" software and services. The Plan must include all investment required, and the estimated sales, expenses, and payoff.

3. Nowadays, I mentor startup business entrepreneurs as my way of "giving back" or "Paying It Forward". There are almost certainly others like me in your area, and it would be good to seek them out, so you can work with them more easily. Talk with your SCORE office, your bank, and other people in business in your area. You will be surprised at the help you will get if you just ask.

4. Read these "Ten Commandments of Managing a Young, Growing Business". If it rings a bell with you, send me your mailing address and I'll send you a free poster of this information, suitable for framing. This document contains the Wisdom of the Ages, when it comes to success in business.

Good luck!
 
I guess you wont.

Why buy any DVD's don't you have cable?

Why buy a cd you can listen to the radio?

Why buy water when it falls out of the sky?

Maybe you wont, If I make it I'll bet you will. I am certain that the video I want to make will impress even the likes of you steev.
 
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FastMikie said:
Here are a few suggestions, based on what I have read so far in this thread, and based on my 50+ years of starting and running successful startups, and helping others start & run their businesses (click here for more info on that):

1. If there is any way whatsoever that you can do this without the involvement of an outside investor, then choose that path. The worst thing an entrepreneur can do is to give up royalties, etc. when it is not absolutely necessary. It only causes problems down the road. The amount of money for the building is trivial, and you should be able to save it in short order, or to borrow the money from the bank, friends, or family, without having to give up royalties.

2. If the total amount of money you need is more than you can put together on your own, or by borrowing from bank, family, friends (without giving up royalties), then you will need something IN WRITING to present to investors. This is an absolute. Do not waste time and energy on discussing your ideas without a written business plan. No serious investor will take you seriously. The way you can get help with this (free) is to contact SCORE (the Service Corps of Retired Executives), a service of the Small Business Admnistration. You can also Google for "Business Plan" software and services. The Plan must include all investment required, and the estimated sales, expenses, and payoff.

3. Nowadays, I mentor startup business entrepreneurs as my way of "giving back" or "Paying It Forward". There are almost certainly others like me in your area, and it would be good to seek them out, so you can work with them more easily. Talk with your SCORE office, your bank, and other people in business in your area. You will be surprised at the help you will get if you just ask.

4. Read these "Ten Commandments of Managing a Young, Growing Business". If it rings a bell with you, send me your mailing address and I'll send you a free poster of this information, suitable for framing. This document contains the Wisdom of the Ages, when it comes to success in business.

Good luck!

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I guess my only question is... if it takes you, the mac-daddy, 8 hrs/day and 2 weeks just to record one shot, what's the point of the video? To elicit a "wow" from the audience or something else?

I remember there was this asian trick shot guy (he was the very first to use coke bottles and shooting a quarter across a pool room into a shot glass). He had some difficult name, I forget it. He did some of the most amazing things I've ever seen. I wouldn't buy a video, though.

The entire pool "market" is SO small, it's tough to make money with an earth shattering idea / concept. Trick shots are a niche within a niche and only interest a few people in the pool market. Masse shots are a niche within a niche within a niche... your audience is REALLY small (those who would pay).

My advice:

Buy a digital camcorder and take it to your local pool room and record until you think you have everything captured. Use Windows Movie Maker to splice it down and edit it and then burn it to DVD on a "per-sale" basis. You don't need an investor.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
I guess my only question is... if it takes you, the mac-daddy, 8 hrs/day and 2 weeks just to record one shot, what's the point of the video? To elicit a "wow" from the audience or something else?

I remember there was this asian trick shot guy (he was the very first to use coke bottles and shooting a quarter across a pool room into a shot glass). He had some difficult name, I forget it. He did some of the most amazing things I've ever seen. I wouldn't buy a video, though.

The entire pool "market" is SO small, it's tough to make money with an earth shattering idea / concept. Trick shots are a niche within a niche and only interest a few people in the pool market. Masse shots are a niche within a niche within a niche... your audience is REALLY small (those who would pay).

My advice:

Buy a digital camcorder and take it to your local pool room and record until you think you have everything captured. Use Windows Movie Maker to splice it down and edit it and then burn it to DVD on a "per-sale" basis. You don't need an investor.

I have to agree with you here. Don't build a building. Don't buy 8000 dollar + cameras and video equipment. Just get a good digital camcorder and a large tripod. If you have to spend any major cash buy a mac computer to put the video together. If serious cash was to be made from a masse video semih would be a rich man by now. I don't mean to shoot you down or discourage you just don't go out and spend allot of money.
 
You know what, who cares if nobody on AZ will buy it... If this is a dream of yours do it and I hope you can re-coop any costs that incur. Unfortunately I can't help you financially but I would probably by it. My kids love trick shots!
 
JamisonNeu said:
If I think they are willing to invest then we can work from there or if they want it on paper then I will write it down on paper.

Jamison,

I agree with the advice of not taking on a partner unless you have to. Also, there are lots of different ways to accomplish something. I know you have an idea for a studio in your backyard in a building. Does it have to be a building? Can it be fabric? Is it just lighting effects that you need? Could you build a frame or rent a tent and get some of the desired effects?

Also, most areas have low-cost studios available either through college programs, starving artsists type programs, incubators and public access tv. It could be that you could get time in those and set up a table. Also, you might be able to find something in the local warehouse district where you could sublet a corner of a mostly empty warehouse and set up a table and some dividers to get the effects you need.

Someone in your neighborhood might have a garage they would rent you very cheap to do the same thing.

Just be true to yourself though, do this thing if that's what you want to do. Don't let naysayers convince you otherwise.

Good luck,
~rc
 
I want to prove that it is possible to walk on water. The weather here in Calgary is in the 90's, so perfect conditions. I need someone willing to invest 20,000$ for an in-ground pool at my house. I will spend the next two summers trying walk on water. Once I capture this on video the investor can keep 100% of revenue from DVD sales. I will pay all utilities.
 
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