ipt sigel vs schmidt proved what

Danny Harriman said:
Hey John funny you did'nt mention about forgetting the rules at 9-9 and calling me names after we argued for 5 minutes, you missed your calling I think you would have made a better politician than you have a pool player - 'talkn bout' we did'nt have anything in writing (loser talk.) I did not like all of your act in our first match when you swiped the chalk in my direction and I old Bobby Hunter about that - he said your temper has gotten better over the years (I hope in continues to do so.) Ohh and by the way I don't care about how much $ you have in the bank either, u had problems with remembering the rules we had gone over and over and it resulted in childish namecalling from your end as u felt some pressure. Please remember you were the one that originally started with the name calling over the phone, just for future reference it's not smart to call people you barely no derogatory names over the phone and make it seem like it's a joke. I told some of the members here what you said to me in our phone conversation prior to our last rematch and they agreed with me. I respect your game but have little admiration for your other head games u knew that I did not like to be called that name from our phone conversation and so you started an argument on purpose 9-9 in the one hole just like you banged into my cue intentionally with "no excuse me" and that is not professional. I am a christian who can forgive and forget however the knowledgable readers of this forum know my word is my bond and I would advise you to be on your best behaviour the next time you and I play there Mrs. 4oo. By the way if u get confused and act up again don't say you were not warned - and if you need it in writing here it is tough guy. Forget about the other two games if you want to give me 100 pts. going to 1000 I'm told u can bet real high or just some One Pocket even up - I will not be going over to victorville. When u get ur free TAR disc watch the 14.1 Mrs. 400, u got filled with bee bees, it must have stung a little - courtesy of the Springfield Rifle. No seriously John the main two problems I had with you were when you rushed into my cue and did not say excuse me and the argument u started at 9-9 those were antics we could have done without. Good Luck with your Pool Career John and God Bless


Danny, I'm a big fan and all( loved the hell out of the ketchup commercial) but, man, we need some paragraphs
 
Danny Harriman said:
Hey John funny you did'nt mention about forgetting the rules at 9-9 and calling me names after we argued for 5 minutes, you missed your calling I think you would have made a better politician than you have a pool player - 'talkn bout' we did'nt have anything in writing (loser talk.) I did not like all of your act in our first match when you swiped the chalk in my direction and I asked Bobby Hunter about that - he said your temper has gotten better over the years (I hope in continues to do so.) Ohh and by the way I don't care about how much $ you have in the bank either, u had problems with remembering the rules we had gone over and over and it resulted in childish namecalling from your end as u felt some pressure. Please remember you were the one that originally started with the name calling over the phone, just for future reference it's not smart to call people you barely no derogatory names over the phone and make it seem like it's a joke. I told some of the members here what you said to me in our phone conversation prior to our last rematch and they agreed with me. I respect your game but have little admiration for your other head games u knew that I did not like to be called that name from our phone conversation and so you started an argument on purpose 9-9 in the one hole and said it AGAIN? Just banging into my cue intentionally with "no excuse me" was not too professional either. I am a christian who can forgive and forget, the knowledgable readers of this forum know my word is my bond and I would advise you to be on your best behaviour the next time you and I play there Mrs. 4oo. By the way if u get confused and act up again don't say you were not warned - and if you need it in writing here it is tough guy. When u get ur free TAR disc watch the 14.1 Mrs. 400, u got filled with bee bees, it must have stung a little:) courtesy of the Springfield Rifle:). No seriously John the main two problems I had with you were when you rushed into my cue and did not say excuse me and the argument u started at 9-9 those were antics we could have done without. Good Luck with your Pool Career John and God Bless

I wasted 5 minutes of my life reading this garbage. Go back to school and take a writing class. As far as the match with John Schmidt goes, get over it, you lost. You've both won a TAR match, it's your turn to head to John's territory. Put up, or shut up.
 
Shawn Armstrong said:
Duh.

Thomas Engert has a 14.1 high run of 491. John has high runs of over 400 twice. Hohmann has a run of over 400. After that, I don't think there are any active players actually playing or alive that have runs better than that. I could care less about tourneys based on races to 150. Here's what proves to me who is the best player at straight pool. CONTINUOUS HIGH RUN. Obviously, these guys all practice. The standard by which every player has been measured is Mosconi's high run. How many world titles does he have? Back then, the field was smaller. Sigel's era, the field was bigger, but the competition wasn't as fierce as today. You're comparing the athlete of yesterday to the athlete of today. There's absolutely no comparison. The players in the rest of the world have become so good at the different games. The only game the US has a stranglehold on is 1P.

Sigel has his day. He's a great. He was by no means a favourite in the match against Schmidt. He's just lucky that the deck was stacked in his favour - slow cloth, short race. Let's get Mike in the TAR Pit for $10K of his own money, race to 1000 against Schmidt.

Set it up, TAR. Then, Jason, you and I can have a sidebet on the match?
I agree that a few things were in sigels favor against schmidt.again as i wrote what did this match prove.I think sigel is a great player but not world championship quality anymore.I think the pressure would be to great for him as i havent been impressed with his playing the last 2 years when there was something worth playing for.Lets say there could be a match up Sigel Vs Schmidt again for 50,000 winner takes all race to 500 balls it still would prove nothing because Sigel would be scared to put up his own money but if trudea put up the money Sigel would be free rolling again so what could it prove. I vote for such a match to happen with no backers involved.I would be putting my cash on schmidt if these rules applied.
 
Danny Harriman said:
Hey John funny you did'nt mention about forgetting the rules at 9-9 and calling me names after we argued for 5 minutes, you missed your calling I think you would have made a better politician than you have a pool player - 'talkn bout' we did'nt have anything in writing (loser talk.) I did not like all of your act in our first match when you swiped the chalk in my direction and I asked Bobby Hunter about that - he said your temper has gotten better over the years (I hope in continues to do so.) Ohh and by the way I don't care about how much $ you have in the bank either, u had problems with remembering the rules we had gone over and over and it resulted in childish namecalling from your end as u felt some pressure. Please remember you were the one that originally started with the name calling over the phone, just for future reference it's not smart to call people you barely no derogatory names over the phone and make it seem like it's a joke. I told some of the members here what you said to me in our phone conversation prior to our last rematch and they agreed with me. I respect your game but have little admiration for your other head games u knew that I did not like to be called that name from our phone conversation and so you started an argument on purpose 9-9 in the one hole and said it AGAIN? Just banging into my cue intentionally with "no excuse me" was not too professional either. I am a christian who can forgive and forget, the knowledgable readers of this forum know my word is my bond and I would advise you to be on your best behaviour the next time you and I play there Mrs. 4oo. By the way if u get confused and act up again don't say you were not warned - and if you need it in writing here it is tough guy. When u get ur free TAR disc watch the 14.1 Mrs. 400, u got filled with bee bees, it must have stung a little:) courtesy of the Springfield Rifle:). No seriously John the main two problems I had with you were when you rushed into my cue and did not say excuse me and the argument u started at 9-9 those were antics we could have done without. Good Luck with your Pool Career John and God Bless
How about both of you shut up, and put up? There's been a lot of back and forth, and I really don't care WHAT happened. It was a money match. You won the first, he won the second.

Go into John's room and play him. However, I say you both bump the bet. There has been some bad blood, so get it settled. $20K All around in John's room. Race to 1000 in 14.1, race to 50 10-ball, and race to 20 1 pocket. Make sure the match has a ref. Any comments or physical contact would be penalized.

Let's get it on!
 
Danny Harriman said:
Hey John funny you did'nt mention about forgetting the rules at 9-9 and calling me names after we argued for 5 minutes, you missed your calling I think you would have made a better politician than you have a pool player - 'talkn bout' we did'nt have anything in writing (loser talk.) I did not like all of your act in our first match when you swiped the chalk in my direction and I asked Bobby Hunter about that - he said your temper has gotten better over the years (I hope in continues to do so.) Ohh and by the way I don't care about how much $ you have in the bank either, u had problems with remembering the rules we had gone over and over and it resulted in childish namecalling from your end as u felt some pressure. Please remember you were the one that originally started with the name calling over the phone, just for future reference it's not smart to call people you barely no derogatory names over the phone and make it seem like it's a joke. I told some of the members here what you said to me in our phone conversation prior to our last rematch and they agreed with me. I respect your game but e little admiration for your other head games u knew that I did not like to be called that name from our phone conversation and so you started an argument on purpose 9-9 in the one hole and said it AGAIN? Just banging into my cue intentionally with "no excuse me" was not too professional either. I am a christian who can forgive and forget, the knowledgable readers of this forum know my word is my bond and I would advise you to be on your best behaviour the next time you and I play there Mrs. 4oo. By the way if u get confused and act up again don't say you were not warned - and if you need it in writing here it is tough guy. When u get ur free TAR disc watch the 14.1 Mrs. 400, u got filled with bee bees, it must have stung a little:) courtesy of the Springfield Rifle:). No seriously John the main two problems I had with you were when you rushed into my cue and did not say excuse me and the argument u started at 9-9 those were antics we could have done without. Good Luck with your Pool Career John and God Bless
your twisting so many things i said out of context i dont even know where to start.
anyway you played great and beat me in the 14.1 section.
so the only thing i can think to do would be to try you again for more money.
if you win ill try again and again.
you could retire robbing me.
at this point i will hopefully only read your posts and not respond because your starting to become unreasonable and physically threatening me which i dont understand because your about as big around as your cue.
im starting to understand how you have alienated yourself from most of guys on tour.
from now on i think i will ignore you unless you show up in victorville with alot of money to play again.
lets just forget all this and get along and play again its more fun that way,one of us is bound to make money thats the whole idea isnt it.signing out john mrs 400 lol. p.s. mrs 400 thats a good one i think ill write that down.
 
Maybe it proved ...

I hate to get in the middle of this, but maybe it proved there is an audience and yearning for straight pool?

Best Regards,
Hal
 
john schmidt said:
your twisting so many things i said out of context i dont even know where to start.
anyway you played great and beat me in the 14.1 section.
so the only thing i can think to do would be to try you again for more money.
if you win ill try again and again.
you could retire robbing me.
at this point i will hopefully only read your posts and not respond because your starting to become unreasonable and physically threatening me which i dont understand because your about as big around as your cue.
im starting to understand how you have alienated yourself from most of guys on tour.
from now on i think i will ignore you unless you show up in victorville with alot of money to play again.
lets just forget all this and get along and play again its more fun that way,one of us is bound to make money thats the whole idea isnt it.signing out john mrs 400 lol. p.s. mrs 400 thats a good one i think ill write that down.
Technically, seeing as you aren't married, it should be "Ms. 400".
 
Schmidts replies to these insults are often hilarious to me. Whether they are intentionally funny or not, i get a laugh out of his analogies and the way he words things. I remember the thread where it was stated John was banned from the viking tour for some reason and he said something along the lines of "If i owed the guy 1000 would my loved ones be kidnapped and killed?" And that had me in stitches even though i do not think it was supposed to be funny.

All that aside, John is a great guy and i back him 100 percent. I do not know anything about Danny so i am not going to pass judgement. John is a great player, entertaining guy and an asset to our sport, and i wish him continued success and hilarious posts.
 
straight pool

i think there is a future for straight pool! and i think more people are starting to think that way! i hope that danny and john can get there differences worked out and we can have the tie breaker! and i like the idea of a longer set! both of you are great players! lets get all of this woofing back on the tables! by the way i love watching straight pool!:thumbup:
 
SpiderWebComm said:
I'm not sure how you could diss a 400+ run on any table - 7' and up. Think the smaller table makes it cake? Try it one time... it's harder in my opinion - more clusters (assuming pockets are all cut identically).

I agree that Mosconi's 526 will be broken in our lifetime. A number of great players come to mind.... Schmidt, Hohmann, Engert (closest yet), and Ralphie.

Not a lot of people know about Raphie. I see this young gun in the pool halls all the time, practicing diligently. More recently, I saw Ralphie at the World Open in New Brunswick - carefully studying the masters. I asked him what his high run was, and he said 13. HOWEVER, he just started playing about 4 months ago.

This guy went into great depths about how he's finally completed what he called the Billiard String Theory, proving all shots in pool are really the same thing. Although his high run is 13, he says he's improving by a ball a day. At this historic rate, in a year and a half he's going to SHATTER Willie's record.... MARK MY WORDS. TAKE THAT ONE TO THE BANK. BELIEVE IT.

Ralphie is the nuts, ya'll. Better ask somebody....





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LOL funniest post I've read in a long time!!!
 
I will travel to play u John Shmidt One Pocket 10 ahead or race to 30 for 5 or ten dimes as I have aquired a backer who likes my end playing you One Pocket only. We have played 40 games and each won twenty so I would say it's a very close contest, think it over John and I might be willing to travel to victoreville if you have a Diamond table there that is compareable to our last match. This is an open invitation for Mr. 400 to bet $5000.00 or more and play some one pocket, 3 foul rule in affect, no sleepers (if we sleep a ball two innings must pass before the slept ball is spotted), if we move more than two balls inadvertantly then it's a foul, and the player who fouls must spot a penny for himself - if you have trouble remembering this rule( and knowing u u may have, then there would eventually have to be some sort of penalty.)
I post these rules on this forum cause from past experience with John boy I learned he suffers from amnesia during play, he feels the need to argue on 'n' on about rules that have been confidently established between relevent parties who have a vested interest in the set. SO Mrs. Shmidt if your interested in only playing one pocket against me then please respond here. I will probably get a cowardly pm saying he only wants to play the way we have in the past won't I john boy:). To avoid any confusion we will have the $ posted before I travel so again there are no misunderstandings comprenda? Ohh and I promise to bring lots of $ as I have aquired a solid backer for the One Pocket only. If The Action Report wants to be involved then that is ok by me, I would also be willing to play in Florida as long as the table is decent. Also I will only play ten hour increments (that way there is no need for a drug test Hmm) After ten hrs. we would then resume play the same time we started on the first day. Who turned out the lights not John boy:).
Will you show me some One Pocket action for $10,000 Schmidtty
I used to live next door to a grocery store called Shmidtty's - I don't know if I can get the groceries cause you beat Gabe Owen who may be a better One pocket player than me but I guess I will have to try.
 
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I know I'm one of the slower people on here regarding 1P, but what is a "sleeper?" Someone help me out and explain what Danny is saying w/ sleepers.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
I know I'm one of the slower people on here regarding 1P, but what is a "sleeper?" Someone help me out and explain what Danny is saying w/ sleepers.

Forgetting to spot an owed ball. It sometimes happens that the player owing the ball does not spot a ball immediately. Then "realizes" this mistake upon their next inning at the table after their opponent has not taken into account that the spotted ball would be there.
 
iba7467 said:
Forgetting to spot an owed ball. It sometimes happens that the player owing the ball does not spot a ball immediately. Then "realizes" this mistake upon their next inning at the table after their opponent has not taken into account that the spotted ball would be there.

Thanks. I'm still learning the game, much appreciated.
 
Danny Harriman said:
I will travel to play u John Shmidt One Pocket 10 ahead or race to 30 for 5 or ten dimes as I have aquired a backer who likes my end playing you One Pocket only. We have played 40 games and each won twenty so I would say it's a very close contest, think it over John and I might be willing to travel to victoreville if you have a Diamond table there that is compareable to our last match. This is an open invitation for Mr. 400 to bet $5000.00 or more and play some one pocket, 3 foul rule in affect, no sleepers (if we sleep a ball two innings must pass before the slept ball is spotted), if we move more than two balls inadvertantly then it's a foul, and the player who fouls must spot a penny for himself - if you have trouble remembering this rule( and knowing u u may have, then there would eventually have to be some sort of penalty.)
I post these rules on this forum cause from past experience with John boy I learned he suffers from amnesia during play, he feels the need to argue on 'n' on about rules that have been confidently established between relevent rties who have a vested interest in the set. SO Mrs. Shmidt if your interested in only playing one pocket against me then please respond here. I will probably get a cowardly pm saying he only wants to play the way we have in the past won't I john boy:). To avoid any confusion we will have the $ posted before I travel so again there are no misunderstandings comprenda? Ohh and I promise to bring lots of $ as I have aquired a solid backer for the One Pocket only. If The Action Report wants to be involved then that is ok by me, I would also be willing to play in Florida as long as the table is decent. Also I will only play ten hour increments (that way there is no need for a drug test Hmm) After ten hrs. we would then resume play the same time we started on the first day. Who turned out the lights not John boy:).
Will you show me some One Pocket action for $10,000 Schmidtty
I used to live next door to a grocery store called Shmidtty's - I don't know if I can get the groceries cause you beat Gabe Owen who may be a better One pocket player than me but I guess I will have to try.
ill do what i can to get money together.
i think the thing to do would be to play longer sets of all around for more money.frankly danny the game between us is very close and i have nothing to prove to the pool world by playing you.
i obviously am not scared to play you as ive done so twice,but i feel that if i win again you will write page after page of utter lies like you have to make me look bad because you cant stand that you lost.
the way you have wrote about me and twisted things is the same reason when your name came up in the pool grape vine you were overlooked because you have a history of being a pain in the ass.its the same reason i have 4 sponsors and you have none is because you act like a nutjob over the smallest thing.i think its time for you to curb you attitude of know it all ,whiny,crybaby ,physically threatening self and get a life.ill tell you what else might be fun action for you.you were already a pro at 18 ,thats the first year i ever hit a ball.you have been on tour for 17years and i played my first pro event at 30 years old in 2003.
anyway why dont we just compare careers for say 10,000.
im spotting you a ten year head start .
you get the point . i may or may not play you ever again .it might be more fun to tell the story over the next 20 years how i came to your home area and beat you .
there is one thing in pool though that i can give you the 5ball at and that is how to lose gracefully .
ive gambled with a million guys in pool and never had these kind of problems your talking about.
ive seen you at tourneys and you seem to get into a confrontation almost everywhere you go.frankly danny you are not important enough or a big enough name to bother with anymore . go ahead and call me mrs 400 i think its kinda funny,but guess what at least ive run 400 twice can you say the same .
 
Woof and reWoof. I love it.

Kind of confused as John states he has nothing to prove. I never thought of gambling as something to prove - I thought of it as a way to get the $$$. Maybe that is why many pool players are broke & have to 'find a way to come up with the money'. If they wouldn't try to prove something & worried more about trying to make an income, they would get some where. If you want to prove something, play in tournaments & never gamble. A chance to play for $10K is sweet & shouldn't be about proving anything. It is not everyday that a pool player gets an offer to play for something serious.

And if this match does go off, John can be assured that he can bet higher than the $10K Danny offered. As long as TAR is involved, I would be comfortable with posting with them.
 
watchez said:
Woof and reWoof. I love it.

Kind of confused as John states he has nothing to prove. I never thought of gambling as something to prove - I thought of it as a way to get the $$$. Maybe that is why many pool players are broke & have to 'find a way to come up with the money'. If they wouldn't try to prove something & worried more about trying to make an income, they would get some where. If you want to prove something, play in tournaments & never gamble. A chance to play for $10K is sweet & shouldn't be about proving anything. It is not everyday that a pool player gets an offer to play for something serious.

And if this match does go off, John can be assured that he can bet higher than the $10K Danny offered. As long as TAR is involved, I would be comfortable with posting with them.
i actually have the money posted to play another guy already for 10,000 and win or lose there will be no problems with him.
 
I have had no problems in the past keeping my composure during a match except the time in Japan. I played in a tournament there and they had an unusual shot clock that had been implemented into the format. All the refs around me were saying ten and I did not know if it was for my table or the table next to me. During play the referee approached me from behind and swiped the cue ball when I was fixin' to follow through, it was like a chrane swooping down over my back and swiping the cue ball. They just did not know how to work a shot clock they would have done well to take some lessons from Danny and Evelyn in the midwest 9 ball tour. The first time this happened to me I did not freak out but the second time I lost all composure, also I never have had trouble getting along with other players on tour. Johnny Archer and i had some words once when he would'nt shake my hand after I handed him a loss but other than that I have never had any issues, life is not a popularity contest for me John. When your done with the other matchup I will be waiting to play u some One Pocket, it is my favorite game to gamble at and even though I may get beat I feel I have a fighting chance.
 
Danny Harriman said:
I have had no problems in the past keeping my composure during a match except the time in Japan. I played in a tournament there and they had an unusual shot clock that had been implemented into the format. All the refs around me were saying ten and I did not know if it was for my table or the table next to me. During play the referee approached me from behind and swiped the cue ball when I was fixin' to follow through, it was like a chrane swooping down over my back and swiping the cue ball. They just did not know how to work a shot clock they would have done well to take some lessons from Danny and Evelyn in the midwest 9 ball tour. The first time this happened to me I did not freak out but the second time I lost all composure, also I never have had trouble getting along with other players on tour. Johnny Archer and i had some words once when he would'nt shake my hand after I handed him a loss but other than that I have never had any issues, life is not a popularity contest for me John. When your done with the other matchup I will be waiting to play u some One Pocket, it is my favorite game to gamble at and even though I may get beat I feel I have a fighting chance.
fair enough danny,if someone will stake me ill play .either way lets just try and move on as we both have important stuff coming up.
 
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