Irish Linen Wrap Sealer ???

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I was hoping to get a little insight from a few of my fellow cuemakers and cuesmiths regarding sealer to maintain the "new" look and to stop the black linen wrap from getting dull especially...

I currently use sanding sealer and it works fairly well but still wears out and the black fades after a few uses !

Is there some magic application besides permantly incasing the wrap that will maintain shine without fading ???

I have experimented with countless chemicals and polishes but still cannot find anything I really like !

All knowledge and assistance is greatly appreciated !!!



Thanks, Eddie Wheat
 
Nothing lasts forever. Linen will always get a dull spot, especially in humid climates or sweaty hands. You may try other brands of sanding sealer, as not all are created equal. I think most cuemakers use starch, and possibly beeswax. Another thing is your linen. Not all brands are equal. But i'm hardly anybody to give advice on wraps, seeing as how most of my cues are wrapless.
 
When a wrap is properly applied with white glue, sponged, pressed, sponged, and then pressed out and dried under high speed, the linen is naturally burnished and sealed. No need for anything on the wrap. Used sparingly, black shoepolish works nicely on black wraps. I'm not a fan of sanded wraps or wraps sealed with dilute shellac or wax. Except for the purpose lubricating a too tight fitting shaft, I don't see a purpose for beeswax on a finshed cue--it's a dirt magnet!! JMO ICBW

Martin



WheatCues said:
I was hoping to get a little insight from a few of my fellow cuemakers and cuesmiths regarding sealer to maintain the "new" look and to stop the black linen wrap from getting dull especially...

I currently use sanding sealer and it works fairly well but still wears out and the black fades after a few uses !

Is there some magic application besides permantly incasing the wrap that will maintain shine without fading ???

I have experimented with countless chemicals and polishes but still cannot find anything I really like !

All knowledge and assistance is greatly appreciated !!!



Thanks, Eddie Wheat
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jazznpool said:
When a wrap is properly applied with white glue, sponged, pressed, sponged, and then pressed out and dried under high speed, the linen is naturally burnished and sealed. No need for anything on the wrap. Used sparingly, black shoepolish works nicely on black wraps. I'm not a fan of sanded wraps or wraps sealed with dilute shellac or wax. Except for the purpose lubricating a too tight fitting shaft, I don't see a purpose for beeswax on a finshed cue--it's a dirt magnet!! JMO ICBW

Martin
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I agree with the beeswax. I use it for lubricating drills, and that's it. However, mix with other oils it is an amazing old school style oil finish for sneakies.
 
qbilder said:
Liquid Wrench. It's non-flammable for the safety of smoking players.
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jazznpool said:
When a wrap is properly applied with white glue, sponged, pressed, sponged, and then pressed out and dried under high speed, the linen is naturally burnished and sealed. No need for anything on the wrap.


Only one way to put it, BULL CRAP,

press the linen, then use wax paper, done deal.
Please,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,sponge press sponge, more bull crap. to much water,duh!!!!!

It's been done with wax paper for years.....
blud
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That may be your way Blud, but the method I described is used by well respected cuemakers I know quite well. Maybe something is missing in the translation. The linen wraps done this way look and feel magnificent without anything additional. They are on are on few thousand cues at least and they're performing well. Never said anything about soaking. I have no use for wax paper except for when I'm gluing up sheets of veneers with epoxy!

With respect,
Martin


blud said:
Martin
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jazznpool said:
When a wrap is properly applied with white glue, sponged, pressed, sponged, and then pressed out and dried under high speed, the linen is naturally burnished and sealed. No need for anything on the wrap.


Only one way to put it, BULL CRAP,

press the linen, then use wax paper, done deal.
Please,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,sponge press sponge, more bull crap. to much water,duh!!!!!

It's been done with wax paper for years.....
blud
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BarenbruggeCues said:
Someone must have did a search on the forum.
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It was easier than trying to remember what I wrote, The steps are second nature to me, I've been doing this system for about 14 years, works like nothing I've seen or especially felt.
 
Eddie, I have used CA to seal wraps, especially those that are light colored. The CA doesn't have to be applied like Meucci does, it can be applied so that while the wrap is completely covered it still and can be felt, and easily gripped. Once complete just polish it like the cues finish, I have had a number of customers who have very sweaty hands have this treatment done to their cues. Everyone, I done this for has been very happy with the results, and the CA is very durable and doesn't break down like other sealers.


Take care
 
I know one cuemaker who does nothing, just glues the wrap on with elmers, presses & it's done. His wraps feel great & look great. No checmicals, no special treatment, just install & press. I try the method & my wraps suck, so I need to go the extra length & work harder at it. So my point is, there's a hundred ways to do it & all seem to work just fine. What matters most is who does it & how good at doing it they are.
 
I agree with the statement that not all linen is created equal. I have several rolls that are an absolute pleasure to work with, simply starch & press and they are just as nice looking and smooth as any I've seen, I have others that are so, so, but require a little more work, and I have a paticular roll of solid black that is a total pain to work with no matter what I do or use.

Greg
 
I've used these methods.
A. beeswax and press. Ok
B. white glue and water mixture and press. Ok
C. just water and press. Best IMO
D. None of the above. Leather
 
Michael Webb said:
It was easier than trying to remember what I wrote, The steps are second nature to me, I've been doing this system for about 14 years, works like nothing I've seen or especially felt.
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I can testify that Mike's method results in a super feeling and durable wrap. Probably the best I've felt.
 
My irish linen wraps are glue on with light white glue, press with starch and walk away. It's done...
 
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jazznpool said:
That may be your way Blud, but the method I described is used by well respected cuemakers I know quite well. Maybe something is missing in the translation. The linen wraps done this way look and feel magnificent without anything additional. They are on are on few thousand cues at least and they're performing well. Never said anything about soaking. I have no use for wax paper except for when I'm gluing up sheets of veneers with epoxy!

With respect,
Martin
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Martin, whatever works for you, useing bees wax, [ collects dirt and grime]
but, my friend if it an't broke, don't fix it, sir..

with much respect
blud
 
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