Is $100 right to see an Earl exhibition?

I've seen Earl do exhibitions many times...

...and it's ALWAYS been great! He's very entertaining, and obviously incredibly skilled! He hit's a jump draw shot like nobody else...and with his playing cue, not a jump cue! :D

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
 
It's worth $100. Earl is a living legend and he is charismatic and gives a good show.
 
CreeDo said:
Just curious what y'all think. Saw an ad for an exhibition he's doing soon and they're charging 100 bucks a head (max 25 seats).

When Mike Massey came to down, I think he did it for 800ish and the owner paid it and charged the spectators nothing, but I wouldn't expect that kind of generosity every time.

My feeling is.. I might pay 20 bucks (maybe 40 tops) to see a pool exhibition, no matter who's doing it. I'd rather pay to sweat a big money match (with maybe some antics thrown in) than to see trick shots, especially since I've already seen the king of trick shots at a much lower price.

Is 100 typical for top level players, and do they fill the seats at that price? Do you guys think it's fair?
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i don't know bro i could buy a lot of accu stats for that many duckets
 
Earl is probably the best pro player for a good show note the word "pro", its a great bet that he would be "normal" because he isnt playing anyone and there is no pressure its his show, and he has the goods.

The trick shot guys are better showman that their only game, I cant remeber the last time anyone played 10 ahead for $5000 on a trick shot, can you? but the are just "showmen"

the problem isnt the $2500 the problem is there is only 25 seats, is it in a broom closet? $100 is a bit high but it will be better for the small audience.

I would pay $100 if Mosconi came with him.;) I might pay $100 if Wille stays home. I wouldnt pay that much to see Janette.
 
Maybe for a hundred you get a nice meal to go along with Earls great shooting ability, we've all payed a hundred for a good meal before ain't we. A hundred ain't enough to fill up some SUV's at the station I do mechanic work at, but we are still full service only and that adds 50 cents a gallon and them rich gals ain't pumping there own.

Leonard
 
breaktime2 said:
A few years ago (4-5) I had Mike Massey in to do an exhibition. At that time he charged $600. We didn't charge the customers anything. Mike was great! He stayed in the room for almost 8 hours!! Played all my customers and talked pool the whole time. Couldn't have asked for more. Based on paying $100 for an exhibition by Earl, the room consensus was no takers. Maybe I've spoiled them. :rolleyes:
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4-5 years ago you paid Mike 600.00 did that include his expenses? Was he already to be in the area? Did your customers pay for anything while at the exhibition food,drinks etc.?
The 100.00 that is being paid per person did it say that was what Earl charged?
What is Mikes rate today with expenses or Jeanettes or Varner etc.
These are the top players in the world that have spent their lives devoted to doing this for a living.You got a great deal with what you paid Mike as he is a champion at what he does and what a show all of these guys and woman perform.The dedication the desire the dreams and the downfalls that they experience is worth every bit of what they charge.The one on one experience alone is a pleasure for them as well as the fans as this is what they are dedicated to.
 
Rick S. said:
Here's a good story...

Earl and I used to be neighbors. I knew as soon as I moved to Greensboro, I'd run into him. Sure enough...Played golf together a couple times, and was just barely getting to know him.

My son comes into town for the week from Tennessee. I called Earl and asked if he'd come over and meet my son. (BIG fan) Earl told me to go to Breakers, (poolroom) he'd meet us there.

We jumped in the car and headed over to Breakers. Walk in, rent some balls. Look up, and here he comes. You should have seen the smile on the kids face!! (mine too, I'm sure)

I introduce the two, and Earl takes over. He screws his stick together, and proceeds to give the kid what he came to see!! I think he must have gone through his whole exhibition routine. Wing shots, trickshots. masse, jumps, 14 balls with one shot, you name it. It went on for what seems like a couple hours.

Let me tell you...all I heard from the kid was "How'd he do that..?? How did he make that ball? How did he get SO good?" ...never ending questions for the remainder of the weekend.

It was something neither of us will ever forget. He made a couple life long fans that day, for sure!

Rick S.
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That's a great story. Thanks for sharing it.
 
rayjay said:
That's a great story. Thanks for sharing it.
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No problem, my pleasure.

You never hear the about the good side of Earl. Believe me, there are a lot more stories out there. He's a hell of a guy. Don't always believe all the negative stuff you hear about him.


Rick S.
 
I think you have to take into consideration that Earl charges $75/hour for personal instruction. $100 to watch with a bunch of other people seems pretty steep when you take that into consideration.
 
Lisa,
Yes Mike was passing through and didn't have anything on his agenda. I think his normal rate was about $1200 at the time. Of course the customers bought food and beverages while they were there. We didn't get to advertise Mike's appearance cause it was a spur of the moment thing. Grady has been by a number of times and ends up giving what amounts to an exhibition when he is there. No charge, he just starts talking to the players and the next thing you know he is on the table setting up a shot. I could say much the same about a few other name players. There are quite a few good ones out there. My point really was that 99% of my customers would not pay a $100 to see an exhibition by Earl or anybody.
BTW I think we met in 1989-90? You and Earl lived off of Old Battleground Ave.? Earl used to come to my house (Summerfield area) to play. Hope you are doing well.

elizabeth said:
4-5 years ago you paid Mike 600.00 did that include his expenses? Was he already to be in the area? Did your customers pay for anything while at the exhibition food,drinks etc.?
The 100.00 that is being paid per person did it say that was what Earl charged?
What is Mikes rate today with expenses or Jeanettes or Varner etc.
These are the top players in the world that have spent their lives devoted to doing this for a living.You got a great deal with what you paid Mike as he is a champion at what he does and what a show all of these guys and woman perform.The dedication the desire the dreams and the downfalls that they experience is worth every bit of what they charge.The one on one experience alone is a pleasure for them as well as the fans as this is what they are dedicated to.
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Fatboy said:
The trick shot guys are better showman that their only game, I cant remeber the last time anyone played 10 ahead for $5000 on a trick shot, can you? but the are just "showmen"
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WOW. Just showmen? What a shame you don't do your research. You should check out some of our tournament records... I believe Massey has a pretty impressive 9 ball record. Also, we shoot trick shots not because we can't shoot pool, but rather we LOVE to be challanged with trick shots. I think the other thing that most trick shot artists (Artistic Pool Players) have in common, is that most of us love to teach. I mean LOVE. We love to get new players involved and teach them shots. When I shot in the US Open this year, Nick Nikolaidis leaned down and told me I was setting up a shot slightly wrong.. and he was in my flight. How many 9 ballers you know tell you the four is on the table while you're shooting the 5 for $2500?

... then again... Massey was a table judge for that round and after Nick said that to me, Mike just looked over at me and with that sweet southern drawl said... Breathe... lol... I'm pretty sure I wasn't fooling anyone about the nerves...!

Anyway, when you figure in all the costs that a player incurs getting to the venue, place to stay, eat, etc... it ends up being a lot of cash. 25 people is pretty small, more would bring the cost down. But it will be intimate, probably something you'd only experience once in your life.
 
thanks for all the replies.

Earl's wingshots are indeed something to behold. You can get a taste here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJkpjqy7GcI

I agree that for 75/hr I'd rather pay for the lesson than pay for the exhibition, but for people who aren't serious shooters, they'd probably feel more like they got their money's worth out of an exhibition.

I'm surprised at mike's price, but it makes sense we got away with 800 bucks now that I think about it. The room owner is a religious man (the pool hall is actually in what used to be a church!) and so is Mike and I think they must have hit it off.

Jeanette's cost is pretty shocking :o I knew she charged 10k for public speaking, so I guess it makes sense an exhibition is along the same lines. But damn, how does ANY pool hall afford that? I don't know a single pool hall owner with 10,000 bucks to spare even if he's successful and expects to get a few bucks back in beer sales, cover charge, etc.
 
CreeDo said:
thanks for all the replies.

Earl's wingshots are indeed something to behold. You can get a taste here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJkpjqy7GcI

I agree that for 75/hr I'd rather pay for the lesson than pay for the exhibition, but for people who aren't serious shooters, they'd probably feel more like they got their money's worth out of an exhibition.

I'm surprised at mike's price, but it makes sense we got away with 800 bucks now that I think about it. The room owner is a religious man (the pool hall is actually in what used to be a church!) and so is Mike and I think they must have hit it off.

Jeanette's cost is pretty shocking :o I knew she charged 10k for public speaking, so I guess it makes sense an exhibition is along the same lines. But damn, how does ANY pool hall afford that? I don't know a single pool hall owner with 10,000 bucks to spare even if he's successful and expects to get a few bucks back in beer sales, cover charge, etc.
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Charging 10K is also a way to not get too mucked up with speaking. This way she can say no thanks and not be bothered with incessant requests that are not worthwhile to her.

I know one public speaker who charges $30K, but who will waive the fee on occasion.

The high cost for appearing also basically guarantees there'll be a decent sized audience.

Flex
 
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