is bobby pickle out

[ShootingArts]

always hard to tell . . .

What do you mean "burn them"? Two people's word about what?

Some people genuinely are moronic jackasses and some just work real hard pretending to be. It is always hard to tell which are which and I don't waste my time trying to sort them out.

Hu

 

[ShootingArts]

they arrested one of the guys working for me for the same reason

They arrested one of the guys working for me for the same reason, they wanted him to roll over on a customer of mine. I didn't know anything but rumors about my customer's dealings so I made sure he got a head's up and forgot about it. It was hilarious in that small community anyway. All of the drug dealers and police knew each other. Six months before that the customer had went on a diving trip to Cancun, him, another guy, and four state troopers from the area all traveling together and having a good time. Things like that happened fairly often. For the most part cops and robbers was just a game they played.

Hu

One quick story - I was hanging out in a poolroom a long time ago, playing pool every day with drug dealers, pimps, bookies etc. The cops bust me INSIDE the joint and take me outside and cuff me. Now a cop searches me and pulls a small bag out of my jacket pocket. He looks at it and says it's heroin. I NEVER IN MY LIFE USED THE STUFF! I ask him where he got that. He says it came out of my jacket pocket. I told him he must have put it there then. They put me in a patrol car and take me to the police station.

I'm booked on "suspicion of sales" and put in a holding cell. After a couple of hours someone comes and gets me and tells me the detectives want to talk to me. They take me to an interrogation room and two cops are waiting for me. They first tell me how serious the charges are against me. I could go to state prison. I told them the cop planted the bag on me, that I did not use the stuff, let alone sell it. I said look at my arms.

Now the detective starts asking me if I know certain people, all of whom come to the poolroom, and many who I have gambled with. I said yeah I know them, but I don't know anything about their business. I told the cop that I play pool for a living and I gambled with these guys. I don't ask them about their business. He says that he knows that already, there have been undercover guys in there for weeks now. He nows tells me he only wants information from me and I'm free to go. All I have to do is co-operate with them.

Now the cop slides a $50 bill across the table to me. A lot of money in 1968, when my rent was $25 a week. He tells me that I will get paid $50 a week to help them out. I think about it for maybe five seconds. Tempting but no deal. I told him I can't help them, it could get me killed. A few minutes later, I get taken back to the holding cell. After another hour or so they let me go. It was all a rouse to try to get me on their "team". I never heard from them again, or got arrested.

This story is not in my book. :smile:

 

[chevybob20]

I don't do drugs or condone them, but I wish the people close to Bobby would come out with the story of what happened. It was a set up. Bobby did his time and I can't wait to see him in action again. By the way, why wasn't the statements of those that rented the room part of the court record?

 

[Craig]

If only guilt meant guilt. I pled to an itty bitty charge I WAS NOT guilty of, because I faced 7 days and 1500 dollars fine for what I was accused of. THING IS, there was a swat sting operation, and I refused their offer, I refused their services, and made it clear that I was not interested in what they offered me.

However, the 1500 dollar guilty fine, was took to 0 dollars. The only thing I had 2 pay was court cost, and THE ONLY REASON THEY LET ME PLEA DOWN WAS BECAUSE THEY HAD INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE IN THE FIRST PLACE. But It did cost me a stack in lawyer fees....

This taught me that the legal system is not a very accurate method to determine one's GUILT, and noone on here, myself included, is able to judge.

Oh, and one other thing...If Bobby Pickle's criminal record was our business, it would be public record, and we could all go view it. GO WATCH A SOAP OPERA DRAMA QUEENS.........

THANK YOU
VERY WELL SAID



Who cares what/who he has done, has nothing to do with the person Bobby Pickle or the poolplayer.
so to some I would concentrate more on how he plays pool than what his personal life is about you might learn something.

 

[JimS]

It is entirely possible to finish a tournament, check out of your room, stop by another room to talk to friends and the cops bust in. You don't know anything about anything but the cops don't believe you so your probation is violated and you go down. There's nothing that I know of to imply that Bobby Pickle is a bad guy so why try to hurt him. I just don't understand reaching out to hurt a guy.

Hell man... I've been clean and sober for 27 years but still know people from back in the day and could easily get busted for standing talking with them on shooting the sh!t in my car. Surely nobody believes that the man is really doing things with integrity??

 

[poolsucker]

heres the real and accurate story about why bobby went back to the tank. he was at a pool tournament in memphis and needed to have a motel room to take a friend to for an hour or two. so two of his so called friends gave their keys to him for their room. meanwhile the police were watching this friend that bobby was taking to the motel room. after they get inside the police bust in and arrest the friend and search the room and find drugs that bobby took the blame for and never narked out the two guys that rented the room. unfortuntely his friends really did'nt financially stand up to their bargen. now i won't mention their names either. this proves why kind of great person bobby is for not narking out his friend that have clean records. not many people out there anymore that would do this. I know all this for fact because I was there in memphis when this went down.

 

[eyesjr]

Integrity???????

It is entirely impossible for people to talk about pool without knocking or draggin on other folks. To say Bobby has lack of integrity...Hmm...Did YOU practice hour after hour and perfect your stroke? Doubt it. Would you put up your own and play a 5,000 dollar set? Doubt it. But if you played good enough you had the nuts, you would. THAT gives you LACK OF INTEGRITY. But since pool tournaments dont pay off, and the backed entried player usually has to split payoff also, guess what? POOL PLAYERS GAMBLE.

Furthermore, an illegal narcotic does not reduce the integrity of a player. Case in point - you get backed for a 10,000 dollar set. Your opponent is Jacked up on ****. He never misses. So, your backer, in an attempt to get some fundage back, wants you to play another set, another day, but guess what? YOU JUST POURED YOUR HEART INTO A TOURNAMENT GOT A LITTLE BAD ROLL AND PUT OUT. 2-3 hard days work(10 am to 3-4 am) and now, your only shot at payin your rent is to play in action. I say the man that poured his HEART into the game, lost, came back to try again, HAS INTEGRITY. I also say that there is nearly no other choice after sleepin in motels and living off fast food for a month to an occaional use(NOT ABUSE) of a substance to assist you in physically being able to compete ESPECISALY WHEN YOU KNOW YOU HAVE THE PHYSIOLOGICAL WORST OF IT. So, in integrity, you step away from the backer, go do WHAT YOU HAVE TO, and step up to the plate and FIRE YOUR HEART at someone, while your stakie fires the bankroll.

Maybe that is what happened to pickle. Surely it is not MY business, and most importantly, if it was yours, he would have called you up personally to tell you. Or at least had his lawyer call you.


Two notorious backers of his frequent the establishment I run, and they are well aware of the facts, and so am I. However, I have INTEGRITY and dont go blabbing about it. I have INTEGRITY to approach this thread in a non agressive manner. I have integrity for standing up for a hero to many who is getting Bashed, who's practice, play, dedication, and heart, ALL HAVE INTEGRITY.

How about we show our INTEGRITY and RESPECT in a manner consistent with a grown adult. Did our mothers and fathers not ever tell us not to talk about people? IN THEIR ABSENCE.....IN A NEGATIVE MANNER????

He has a stroke that he EARNED. He has a heart in competition that others FEAR. He has patience and determination and personality that are all revered. And last not least, a character that is peaceful, passionate, respectful, and good-willed. Please do this man a favor and cease the hear-say, the promotion of a bad rep, and altogether inaccurate description of his character. Can you do that?

It is entirely possible to finish a tournament, check out of your room, stop by another room to talk to friends and the cops bust in. You don't know anything about anything but the cops don't believe you so your probation is violated and you go down. There's nothing that I know of to imply that Bobby Pickle is a bad guy so why try to hurt him. I just don't understand reaching out to hurt a guy.

Hell man... I've been clean and sober for 27 years but still know people from back in the day and could easily get busted for standing talking with them on shooting the sh!t in my car. Surely nobody believes that the man is really doing things with integrity??

 

[JB Cases]

I don`t personally know him, but if he such a nice guys why has he been incarcerated ?

Wrong place at the wrong time.

 

[JimS]

It is entirely impossible for people to talk about pool without knocking or draggin on other folks. To say Bobby has lack of integrity...Hmm...Did YOU practice hour after hour and perfect your stroke? Doubt it. Would you put up your own and play a 5,000 dollar set? Doubt it. But if you played good enough you had the nuts, you would. THAT gives you LACK OF INTEGRITY. But since pool tournaments dont pay off, and the backed entried player usually has to split payoff also, guess what? POOL PLAYERS GAMBLE.

Furthermore, an illegal narcotic does not reduce the integrity of a player. Case in point - you get backed for a 10,000 dollar set. Your opponent is Jacked up on ****. He never misses. So, your backer, in an attempt to get some fundage back, wants you to play another set, another day, but guess what? YOU JUST POURED YOUR HEART INTO A TOURNAMENT GOT A LITTLE BAD ROLL AND PUT OUT. 2-3 hard days work(10 am to 3-4 am) and now, your only shot at payin your rent is to play in action. I say the man that poured his HEART into the game, lost, came back to try again, HAS INTEGRITY. I also say that there is nearly no other choice after sleepin in motels and living off fast food for a month to an occaional use(NOT ABUSE) of a substance to assist you in physically being able to compete ESPECISALY WHEN YOU KNOW YOU HAVE THE PHYSIOLOGICAL WORST OF IT. So, in integrity, you step away from the backer, go do WHAT YOU HAVE TO, and step up to the plate and FIRE YOUR HEART at someone, while your stakie fires the bankroll.

Maybe that is what happened to pickle. Surely it is not MY business, and most importantly, if it was yours, he would have called you up personally to tell you. Or at least had his lawyer call you.


Two notorious backers of his frequent the establishment I run, and they are well aware of the facts, and so am I. However, I have INTEGRITY and dont go blabbing about it. I have INTEGRITY to approach this thread in a non agressive manner. I have integrity for standing up for a hero to many who is getting Bashed, who's practice, play, dedication, and heart, ALL HAVE INTEGRITY.

How about we show our INTEGRITY and RESPECT in a manner consistent with a grown adult. Did our mothers and fathers not ever tell us not to talk about people? IN THEIR ABSENCE.....IN A NEGATIVE MANNER????

He has a stroke that he EARNED. He has a heart in competition that others FEAR. He has patience and determination and personality that are all revered. And last not least, a character that is peaceful, passionate, respectful, and good-willed. Please do this man a favor and cease the hear-say, the promotion of a bad rep, and altogether inaccurate description of his character. Can you do that?

Geez. You completely misunderstood my post. I said that "the man" lacks integrity. You know... "the man" ... as in the authorities. Read the post and see what makes sense.

 

[easy-e]

It is entirely impossible for people to talk about pool without knocking or draggin on other folks. To say Bobby has lack of integrity...Hmm...Did YOU practice hour after hour and perfect your stroke? Doubt it. Would you put up your own and play a 5,000 dollar set? Doubt it. But if you played good enough you had the nuts, you would. THAT gives you LACK OF INTEGRITY. But since pool tournaments dont pay off, and the backed entried player usually has to split payoff also, guess what? POOL PLAYERS GAMBLE.

Furthermore, an illegal narcotic does not reduce the integrity of a player. Case in point - you get backed for a 10,000 dollar set. Your opponent is Jacked up on ****. He never misses. So, your backer, in an attempt to get some fundage back, wants you to play another set, another day, but guess what? YOU JUST POURED YOUR HEART INTO A TOURNAMENT GOT A LITTLE BAD ROLL AND PUT OUT. 2-3 hard days work(10 am to 3-4 am) and now, your only shot at payin your rent is to play in action. I say the man that poured his HEART into the game, lost, came back to try again, HAS INTEGRITY. I also say that there is nearly no other choice after sleepin in motels and living off fast food for a month to an occaional use(NOT ABUSE) of a substance to assist you in physically being able to compete ESPECISALY WHEN YOU KNOW YOU HAVE THE PHYSIOLOGICAL WORST OF IT. So, in integrity, you step away from the backer, go do WHAT YOU HAVE TO, and step up to the plate and FIRE YOUR HEART at someone, while your stakie fires the bankroll.

Maybe that is what happened to pickle. Surely it is not MY business, and most importantly, if it was yours, he would have called you up personally to tell you. Or at least had his lawyer call you.


Two notorious backers of his frequent the establishment I run, and they are well aware of the facts, and so am I. However, I have INTEGRITY and dont go blabbing about it. I have INTEGRITY to approach this thread in a non agressive manner. I have integrity for standing up for a hero to many who is getting Bashed, who's practice, play, dedication, and heart, ALL HAVE INTEGRITY.

How about we show our INTEGRITY and RESPECT in a manner consistent with a grown adult. Did our mothers and fathers not ever tell us not to talk about people? IN THEIR ABSENCE.....IN A NEGATIVE MANNER????

He has a stroke that he EARNED. He has a heart in competition that others FEAR. He has patience and determination and personality that are all revered. And last not least, a character that is peaceful, passionate, respectful, and good-willed. Please do this man a favor and cease the hear-say, the promotion of a bad rep, and altogether inaccurate description of his character. Can you do that?

Do you know what "integrity" means?

 

[JB Cases]

So I just want to be sure that I have this straight. It is very important to me in my never ending quest to be a cool guy in the pool room. If I happen to get pulled over or arrested with a couple drug dealing buddies I am supposed to tell the police that the drugs that they found are mine even if they're not because I don't want to be a snitch? I hope I have this right. My life, time, interests, work, family, girlfriend, wife, etc. are not as important as the fear of being called a snitch by a couple of drug dealers? I learn something new everyday. Would Efren or any other top pro have taken the same blame to avoid being called a snitch?
What is "rolling" anyway. I guess if the drug dealers had just killed someone and Pickle took the blame it would have made him pretty much the coolest guy in the pool world.... On the level of "THE ANTI-SNITCH". You guys are funny.

I think that the appraoach works where you simply say, "those aren't mine, I didn't know they were here, and I don't know whose they are."

This way you aren't "rolling over" on anyone and the burden of proof is on the prosecution. I would bet that this is probably how it went down more or less.

To me "possession" should mean ONLY that you are caught with it in your hands. Otherwise there is no reasonable way to know how the drugs, etc... got into a room, a gym bag, a car, a house, etc.....

What if I rented a car and the previous people had left drugs hidden in it and a drug dog sniffs out the drugs? Am I really to be held accountable for possession?

There was a movie once called Legal Eagles or something like that where a man was accused of murder on the basis that the murdr weapon, a bloody knife, was found in his car under the driver's seat while he was in the car.

The DA argued that the defendant should know what is in his car. The defense atttorney asked the DA if he always was aware of what was under his seat and he said yes. Then the defense attorney asked him if he was sure and walked over and pulled a rabbit from under the DA's chair.

This is what's called reasonable doubt. Prosecutor's have to prove guilt beyond reasonable doubt. This is why they prefer NOT to have trials go to jury because often they only have circumstantial evidence to go on. So they lean on the accused and try to get them to plea to something rather than have to go to court.

But whatever, good people do go to jail and guilty people do go free. I think we all know that our justice system is broken in many ways and often it grinds people for no offenses or even for really minor offenses while allowing those who harm far more people to go free.

 

[easy-e]

Good post John. I used to be a cop before joining the military, and have seen circumstances like you described. A friend loans his car to a buddy and there is some weed in the glove box. The borrower had no idea it was there and when he was pulled over the weed fell out when he searched for the registration. We usually went on the "totality of the circumstances" when establishing guilt.

There is a huge difference between the letter of the law and the spirit of the law. Technically, the borrower was guilty of posession, however, in the spirit of the law I knew better. The justice system sucks.

Why anybody would ever claim posession of something illegal instead of making the DA prove their posession is beyond me. I really don't think anybody but Bobby knows what went down. All of his "friends" who claim they know the real story and are sharing little pieces of it are doing more harm than good.

Edited to add: I really don't give a f**k what happened and really have no idea why I even bothe posting my opinion.

 

[Ktown D]

I really don't give a f**k what happened and really have no idea why I even bothe posting my opinion.

Because you are a drama queen.:grin: :lmao:

 

[AL-Slouch]

Let me start by saying I don't have any knowledge of the situation with BP...but one reason someone might plead guilty to say a lesser charge is because if they have had problems in the past that can be used against them now...and also when you make the DA prove something they like to BBQ your a$$.

So, do you take 1 yr in jail, or do you gamble and go for an acquittal or possbly get 10 years? People who haven't been in any kind of trouble are naive in thinking that the justice system doesn't railroad people.

 

[Tommy-D]

"heres the real and accurate story about why bobby went back to the tank."

I have no doubt at all that it went down like just like that. The info I posted was slightly "veiled",in that some of the particulars were bad info,and for that I apologize. The part I know for a fact is correct is that he did get a pretty sweet deal for what was presented evidence-wise,and that he is a stand-up guy for not doing what they surely tried to make easy for him.

Anyone notice I never slagged anyone here people? Please join me,if you haven't already :thumbup:. Tommy D

 

[SpiderWebComm]

Who cares what Bobby did or didn't do. If every pool player was arrested for what they didn't get caught for....

THERE'D BE NO ONE ON THIS BLOODY FRICKIN' FORUM!!!!!!!!!!!

I met Bobby one time and he was the coolest guy. He can shoot aight too

 

[ribdoner]

So I just want to be sure that I have this straight. It is very important to me in my never ending quest to be a cool guy in the pool room. If I happen to get pulled over or arrested with a couple drug dealing buddies I am supposed to tell the police that the drugs that they found are mine even if they're not because I don't want to be a snitch? I hope I have this right. My life, time, interests, work, family, girlfriend, wife, etc. are not as important as the fear of being called a snitch by a couple of drug dealers? I learn something new everyday. Would Efren or any other top pro have taken the same blame to avoid being called a snitch?
What is "rolling" anyway. I guess if the drug dealers had just killed someone and Pickle took the blame it would have made him pretty much the coolest guy in the pool world.... On the level of "THE ANTI-SNITCH". You guys are funny.

keep in mind that gerkins are for ferkin and not jerkin

 

[SpiderWebComm]

FROM A VERY RELIABLE SOURCE:

1. His parole has been approved.

2. There has been no particular release date given to bobby. He is hopeful of being released prior to the DCC but there is no way to know.

3. I will provide the release date for forum publication as soon as it has been determined.

 

[Pii]

While I agree with this statement, wasn't the guy (have no idea who he is) being discussed here a bit beyond just accused? I mean, there had to be a trial and conviction to be jailed/imprisoned, right? Like I said, don't know the guy or situation, but guilt by accusation alone doesn't seem to fit here. ???

You could be re jailed if you violate your probation or parole. These things usually state you aren't supposed to hangout in bad places with people that have records.

with that said though I no nothing abut his case

 

[Pii]

What is "rolling" anyway. I guess if the drug dealers had just killed someone and Pickle took the blame it would have made him pretty much the coolest guy in the pool world.... On the level of "THE ANTI-SNITCH". You guys are funny.

No he would be the coolest guy in prison but he would also be a stupid ass IMO. The whole anti-snitch thing that is going around these days is part of the reason we have raising crime with young people IMO.

Teaching kids to let crimes go unpunished/reported and to act like it's not their problem or business is silly and stupid. When crime shows up at their doorstep they will have no one to blame but themselves and I bet they have no problem snitching then.

Whatever happened to looking out for one another?