Is it possible to throw an object ball? Nope

mohrt said:
It’s in the original post
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The shot seems something of a red herring. If you hit a ball straight and it threw the object ball in, due to conservation of momentum, the cue ball would also necessarily throw in the opposite direction a slight amount even if you hit it perfectly straight.
 
mohrt said:
It’s in the original post
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And the second post points to the example that I have used for many years to demonstrate throw. I find it very remarkable that you did not bother to try that test as written. In addition, there is now at least one video on-line that demonstrates the shot.

Not only is it possible to stop the cue ball dead and make the object ball go to the left of their line with right side spin, it is possible to make the object ball go to the left and the cue ball also go to the left with right side spin and the correct fullness of hit.

But it seems Ron was not talking about throw. He was talking about making the object ball curve.
 
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Patrick Johnson said:
Yes, static friction (frozen balls) is stronger than kinetic friction (moving balls), so frozen balls throw more, but that doesn't mean moving balls don't throw - the difference is only fractional. It may also be that the force of the collision adds enough friction to make up the difference (I'm not sure about this).
As far as being fractional, specify your fraction. Not to be argumentative but if anyone here wants to have a solid foundation in this area of physics then we can look up a graph of static vs kinetic friction. The difference is striking. So I almost never come to an absolute stop in vehicles...it is like a game to try to avoid the final static brake grab...which is not possible.
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I’m not sure why this old thread was revived, but newer info on this topic can be found here:

Balls with a small gap can throw very close to the same amount as frozen balls. The key is slow speed. Demos can be found in the videos at the link above.
 
14oneman said:
I completely disagree... you can absolutely throw the object ball...basic physics...
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If there is anybody out there who still believes throw is not possible, lots of proof can be found here with countless demonstrations:

If you just want to watch one video, I recommend this one:

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tournament directors would do more for pool if they gave invites to celebrities with entry, and free room and board or at least something.

then a chance for some video or tv coverage then or in the future.

and companies like predator. imagine getting a celeb playing on video of some kind with your cue brand and maybe shirt.

like a sports figure. or movie star.

and have a celebrity tournament. just them.
 
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In trying to picture the mechanics of a thin cut, I see that in passing the object ball, the cue ball bites in and starts its own friction and gearing effect. Because of this hold zone the cue ball may actually put that 5 degree spread on the original cut - before nonchalantly rolling away.

BELIEVE IT OR NOT
 
So you’re saying when I apply spin to the cue ball it doesn’t change the natural line of the object ball? hahahahaahaha You can’t see with your own eyes and actions that that is ridiculous lol I bet you also believe the liberals who tell you their is no difference between men and women in sports .. even though watching the nba and wnba it should take you about 30 seconds to know thats insane 😂 maybe the worst thread I’ve read in all my time on az.. 😂
 
dr_dave said:
If there is anybody out there who still believes throw is not possible, lots of proof can be found here with countless demonstrations:

If you just want to watch one video, I recommend this one:

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Here are some good videos showing everything a good player needs to know about throw:


 
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