Is it possible to throw an object ball? Nope

Bob Jewett said:
Just as an update to this classic thread, the rules have changed so that tapping is not used for 14.1 in Europe and the break shot shown in the video is no longer practical because the "standard triangle" racks are slightly loose.
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Thanks for dredging this up, Bob. It was a fun thread about a controversial technical topic that went on for a couple of years with lots of ideas and debate - that never got derailed or even very contentious (well, until right at the end when ENGLISH! showed up).

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JC said:
This thread has been silly from day one. I don't have any idea who Ron is but if he really said this he's wrong unless I'm misunderstanding the statement.
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It turned out he was misinterpreted - he said throw but really meant OB swerve. He was right that can't be done with a normal shot (I think it theoretically can if the CB is jumped onto the OB, but I don't know if that's practical).

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Patrick Johnson said:
Thanks for dredging this up, Bob. It was a fun thread about a controversial technical topic that went on for a couple of years with lots of ideas and debate - that never got derailed or even very contentious (well, until right at the end when ENGLISH! showed up).

pj
chgo
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I enjoyed it also. PJ....I reread it all.
..and I was reminded about not spinning whitey too much when trying to turn the object ball.
...that was from you...I could never explain certain misses before...:wave:
 
Anyone who thinks you can not throw the object ball is crazy

I once saw a guy pick up a cue stick and threaten to brain another guy
The second guy picked up a couple of balls and threw them at the first guy

I would love to tell the rest of the story but the view was not so good from where I ducked into
 
deanoc said:
Anyone who thinks you can not throw the object ball is crazy

I once saw a guy pick up a cue stick and threaten to brain another guy
The second guy picked up a couple of balls and threw them at the first guy

I would love to tell the rest of the story but the view was not so good from where I ducked into
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There is a definite distinction, in the sound of the hit when it is on the chest or back, vs the head.
 
book collector said:
There is a definite distinction, in the sound of the hit when it is on the chest or back, vs the head.
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Yep, completely different sounds. There is a very loud scream that accompanies getting hit in the chest or back with a pool ball. Getting hit in the head just sounds like any other unconscious body or corpse that hits the floor. :lmao:

I have been waiting for the perfect thread to make #5000. Youre welcome! :thumbup:
 
RiverCity said:
Yep, completely different sounds. There is a very loud scream that accompanies getting hit in the chest or back with a pool ball. Getting hit in the head just sounds like any other unconscious body or corpse that hits the floor. :lmao:

I have been waiting for the perfect thread to make #5000. Youre welcome! :thumbup:
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That Bridge City you’re from....is the bridge open or closed?
 
RiverCity said:
Yep, completely different sounds. There is a very loud scream that accompanies getting hit in the chest or back with a pool ball. Getting hit in the head just sounds like any other unconscious body or corpse that hits the floor. :lmao:

I have been waiting for the perfect thread to make #5000. Youre welcome! :thumbup:
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Chuck - There is almost an eerieness to your posting number in conjunction with the other numeric representations on your profile listings. 5000 posts. 500 vcash. 32 and 100% ( 3+2=5, 5x100%=500% ) on your iTrader comes out to 500. Also, In Bridge City, B is # 2 in the alphabet, C is # 3. 2+3=5. And, finally, you joined April 06. April is the 4th month. The number 5 is between 04 and 06. So it's 5000 500 500 5 and 5. I think I hear Rod Serling's voice...

I'm going to church this Sunday. Don't you ever change a THING, brother.


Somewhere far off in the night... a dog howls.

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Check it out,
Dave
 
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Patrick Johnson said:
(I think it theoretically can if the CB is jumped onto the OB, but I don't know if that's practical).

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Most definitely can be done this way particularly we're only talking about say a 1/16 of a ball is in the way and you're dead straight in. In this case the cue isn't jacked up very much. 6-8"??
Not all that hard to do. Just a little extra concentration.
 
3kushn said:
Most definitely can be done this way particularly we're only talking about say a 1/16 of a ball is in the way and you're dead straight in. In this case the cue isn't jacked up very much. 6-8"??
Not all that hard to do. Just a little extra concentration.
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Can you get enough object ball curve to do the following challenge shot?

If not, how much of an object ball frozen to the side rail down by the pocket (near B) do you think you can hit consistently with the one ball?
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Didn't read much of the many post in this thread but, in short yes, "a ball" can be thrown. Depending on felt, ball, chalk, climate, player etc..... the throw may be almost impossible to detect or be obvious to anyone.
 
Bob Jewett said:
Can you get enough object ball curve to do the following challenge shot?

If not, how much of an object ball frozen to the side rail down by the pocket (near B) do you think you can hit consistently with the one ball?
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NO, I won't commit to that one. If the CB was moved over for a straight in shot is what I thought Patrick was talking about. That shot can be made even if the other ball is slightly more of an obstruction by jumping the OB over.
 
it depends largely on the playing conditions and the speed of the cue-ball. on a humid day with no AC the balls will look like they defy the law of physics they throw so much. if it's dry and the balls highly polished they may not throw at all. that's why english is so dicey and generally eschewed.
 
3kushn said:
NO, I won't commit to that one. If the CB was moved over for a straight in shot is what I thought Patrick was talking about. That shot can be made even if the other ball is slightly more of an obstruction by jumping the OB over.
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I was talking about jumping the CB onto the OB to create masse spin on the OB, not to make the OB jump. The OB jumping a little would be an irrelevant side effect to me.

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chgo
 
I'm guessing between 2011 and now the op figured out how to throw a ball since he hasn't posted in the revival of his thread.
 
I was re-reading some of this thread & remembered Robert Byrne showing how to throw ball around a ball... man , that is magic. I gotta dig that Video out & re-watch it.
 
Thanks Dr Dave. I've been throwing balls since I was 14, that is 62 years ago. The instructional video I bought some years ago, by Robert Byrne had this particular science demonstrated & I was amazed, so I learned it, even after playing Pool for 50 years. You never quit learning. Before the internet & Pool Videos, player wouldn't show you anything but how good they played & where the door is...
 
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