Jasmin Suspended
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She did state 'according to their rules'. I can't see why anyone would knowingly play another event with suspension waiting their return. Being seeded makes a huge difference in WPBA events. To choose a mens event over her tour must have been a hard decision. Knowing she would miss 3 events for that choice... I'm sure she would have picked differently.
If the filing of a required waiver was not made clear or delayed too late by the WPBA, a ruling correction should be made. If Jasmin knowingly went to the event before requesting WPBA waiver, then I agree with Black Jack 100%. Guess I will wait and see who wronged themself.
If the filing of a required waiver was not made clear or delayed too late by the WPBA, a ruling correction should be made. If Jasmin knowingly went to the event before requesting WPBA waiver, then I agree with Black Jack 100%. Guess I will wait and see who wronged themself.
Blackjack said:
I haven't looked at who's on the board, but if any of em are in the top tier or realistically playing on the tour full time...and voting on this matter, I see it as a conflict of interest.
Strange but when a female pool player appears on the WPBA capable of shooting successfully against male players the WPBA will as soon as the opportunity arises will come down on them - Balukas "sharking incident" blown out of proportion - Ouschan - fined not one but TWO tournaments.
I think the players that are unhappy with the way the WPBA is run should take their contract to a good labor lawyer and see if there are holes in it. If that contract is over five years old a new one needs to be written anyway. The players should vote two or more players to work with lawyer and then present the new contract to the board. W/O the players there is no WPBA. Johnnyt
PROG8R said:
This is the current Board of Directors
Linda Chen - President
Belinda Calhoun - Vice President
Michael Howerton (replaces Anthony Gebbia - Treasurer)
Melissa Herndon - Secretary
Kristi Carter - At Large
Dawn Hopkins - At Large
Barden Winstead - At Large
It is doubtful that any board elected would be able to pass any decision based on an agenda or a personal vendetta. FWIW, Jasmin is well liked and doesn't have any enemies within the WPBA.
IMO, this situation has to do with a violation of the rules, not personal issues.
Blackjack said:
I understand where they are comming from (they have to protect their tour), but I still think it sucks the big one. I think that if they want to punish her it should be from her wallet not the tour. I understand that the ban is a ding on her wallet, but doing it like that it is also a ding on the GATE. She is a draw and not having her can hurt that.
IMO, this situation also has to do with which rule(s) were violated and most important the serverity of the punishment. I would like to know.
We are only guessing if it was Jasmin playing in a conflicting event or not having a waiver or 'Both'
Only the board members and Jasmin know for sure what the violation(s) was ... the rest of us are just guessing.
We are only guessing if it was Jasmin playing in a conflicting event or not having a waiver or 'Both'
Only the board members and Jasmin know for sure what the violation(s) was ... the rest of us are just guessing.
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Tom In Cincy said:
Here are the rules from the WPBA Player handbook.
Tournament Waiver Criteria
As a WPBA member with WPBA benefits and the right to participate in WPBA events, appear in WPBA broadcasts, etc., a player signs her participation rights over to the WPBA when she signs her player contract. This includes professional competition eligibility as well as media rights. Therefore, if you wish to play in a non-WPBA event and need a release of rights, the following waiver rules apply:
Tournament Waivers Granted
Tournament waivers are granted for the following:
1. WPBA-recognized regional tour events (both domestic and international).
2. Non-competitive exhibitions, trick shot shows, or instructional efforts with one or more WPBA players.
3. Competitive exhibition matches involving up to four players in which each player receives only an appearance fee. No title or prize money is offered.
No event may be televised or taped for video distribution in whole or in part, other than for news media without the prior consent of the WPBA.
Tournament Waivers Requested
A tournament waiver must be requested for the following:
1. Any non-sanctioned or non-recognized event, in the U.S. or abroad, where you are engaging in professional competition.
2. Any competitive event televised, taped for video distribution, or for media (prize money or not).
3. Five or more players playing in a competitive exhibition event.
4. Any event within a hundred mile radius of a WPBA tour stop city within 15 days prior to or following a WPBA tour stop.
5. Any competitive event where the player can win $1,000.00 or more.
(Source, WPBA Player Handbook 3.06.08)
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Island Drive said:
I agree. Anyone who must play matches against Jasmin should have abstained from voting on this one. Of course we know that isn't what happened and isn't going to happen. Yes they have every right to make whatever decision they want. That doesn't make it right though. There have been many unjust decisions made in sports for a long time. I can think of several prizefights that looked like outright robbery. This one has all the look and smell of impropriety to it.
O.J. Simpson was found not guilty in a court of law, but in the court of public opinion he was guilty as sin. Jasmin has been found guilty by her peers but in the eyes of the pool public she is a hero. Jasmin won't have the black eye here, but the WPBA will.
I see at least four members of the board that should have abstained from voting on this matter, in the interest of fairness. I wonder if any of them did.
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Blackjack said:
My point was that this "board" as so construed cannot render an impartial decision. Fine her yes, suspend her NO!
jay helfert said:
History shows that the board (by design) has been able to sustain this tour longer than anything that any of us men could put together - so maybe we should look into it.
LOL
I get what you're saying, Jay - but I can assure you that jealousy/agendas/other issues are not factors in this situation. Its just a player agreement violation.
Unfortunate situation? Yes.
Is the punshment too severe? Definitely seems like overkill to me. You don't use a steamroller when a flyswatter'll do the trick.
vagabond said:Yeah right, like what late president Ronald regan did to the air traffic controllers.
I am NOT in favor of suspending her.Imposing Fine is fine with me.
If you think that that Jasmin missing 2 tournaments can be equated to what Reagan did do the air traffic controllers, than you better re-align your priorities.
Blackjack said:
David, the point that I'm making has nothing to do with jealousy. These are women (and their significant others) who must play matches against Jasmin in future WPBT events. If she cannot play in that event, it puts them at an advantage, doesn't it? They don't have to beat her to win, because she's not there to compete. That is my point!
Once again in fairness they should have abstained from voting on her suspension, due to the obvious conflict of interest they have.
