Average age is 50 plus, maybe every now and then a younger player almost all HispanicOff the top of your head, any idea of the average age of the players?
Also, how old do you think the 5 youngest are?
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Jayson owns two world records: one is for cue ball only fouls, the lower number is for all ball fouls.I believe the “BCA adjusted figure” was 669 but never heard anything more about it. Anyone have more info?
OK Stu. Not sure "How do you think Jayson stacked up against the field in 2015- 2017?" warranted such a forceful response, but it makes sense to me.I'm pretty sure Jayson never attained the #1 ranking. Do you really think there was ever a time when he was considered a stronger player than Shane? When Jayson won the 2017 US Open 9-ball, Shane had won three of the last four (2013, 2014, and 2016) at that event. In both 2015 and 2016, Shane won a silver medal at the World 9-ball Championships.
Jayson had his best run in the 2015-17 period you mention, but even in that stretch, he wasn't the best player. Did he dominate? Surely you jest. I'll add that in that period, Dennis Orcullo was easily Jayson's equal, and perhaps Darren Appleton, too. Jayson has been a superstar in pool for a long time and I'm a big fan of his, but he was never the best and any suggestion that he ever dominated pool is, quite simply, misinformed.
The ‘problems’ (and solutions) in both games are typically fairly obvious. In 9-ball, the ball #s direct you. In 14.1, it’s the multitude of ‘choices’ that usually gets my head spinning.Sometimes in 9 ball you break a ball in and have an easy out.
There is never an easy rack of 14.1 after the break shot,there are always little problems you have to solve.
Sorry, I may have overdone it with my response, but it may be because of your wording. If you say you'd take a player against the field, that means you think that player has at least a 50% chance of winning an event and must, therefore, be the best by quite a bit. Hence, if you're asking whether Jayson was ever a good bet against the field, the answer is "no". If you were, instead, asking "where was Jayson in the pecking order during his best period of competition?" then I didn't read it that way.OK Stu. Not sure "How do you think Jayson stacked up against the field in 2015- 2017?" warranted such a forceful response, but it makes sense to me.
Average age is 50 plus, maybe every now and then a younger player almost all Hispanic
Off the top of your head, any idea of the average age of the players?
Also, how old do you think the 5 youngest are?
Thanks
In Detroit the money was big in golf and every game had a couple of guys trying to chop everyone up.Any time I have found golf games they were filled with a regular group that played the game together all of the time. Outsiders weren't made to feel welcome especially if they were more than donating.
Benchrest rifle shooting used to bang their heads against the wall trying to attract young shooters. Benchrest requires a fair amount of money and is time intensive. Rewards were generally small other than the acknowledgement of your peers. Few people were inclined to get seriously involved until their children were grown and gone. "Young" shooters in benchrest were in their fifties and early sixties for the most part which still gave them a chance to participate for twenty years or more. Organized benchrest's biggest issue was chasing shooters in their twenties and thirties who generally didn't have time or money to be involved.
Golf seems to be much like benchrest. Usually a morning group that met to talk and drink coffee as much as shoot pool. Not a whole lot of money in golf for the places I saw the game being played but it was played four to six hours a day unless the weather was really foul. That steady reliable drip of cash all of the time can be very welcome to owners.
Hu
Arnaldo you should sit down with Hu over a bowl of Red Beans and Rice someday, it gets better.ShootingArts (Hu) said in post #387:
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While Shaw with his love of massaging the balls just so with lots of nudging doesn't have the same elegance as Mosconi he does have that same air from immediately after the break shot that everything is copacetic and he'll be shooting his next break shot in a minute or two. It is kinda hypnotic to watch him hitting 14.1 racks.
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Hu, There are so many writerly gems and perfect images conjured in those two vividly alive sentences of yours, I can't imagine anyone ever again capturing more precisely and completely the totally unique visual (and emotional) experience of watching prime Mosconi and prime Jayson beautifully running endless 14.1 racks with such rare and bewildering ease.
Kudos and appreciation for giftedly nailing in two sentences what so many fortunate spectators feel.
Arnaldo ~ Huge fan of exceptional writing and exceptional 14.1
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I thought the same. He had the whole rack to try to bump out that ball again.Jayson still had many balls on the table after failing to knock the 10-ball off the rail with the leave on the 8-ball. Why not set up another attempt at knocking the 10-ball off the rail? I think Jayson has so much confidence in his shot making that he just went for the difficult shot without too much hesitation. After he missed the 10-ball, he set up the shot again...this time hitting the 10-ball towards the opposite corner pocket. He slow rolled the 10-ball along the rail, and although it too drifted wide, it dropped into the pocket.
Sorry then - I meant general pecking order at the time in question.Sorry, I may have overdone it with my response, but it may be because of your wording. If you say you'd take a player against the field, that means you think that player has at least a 50% chance of winning an event and must, therefore, be the best by quite a bit. Hence, if you're asking whether Jayson was ever a good bet against the field, the answer is "no". If you were, instead, asking "where was Jayson in the pecking order during his best period of competition?" then I didn't read it that way.
i seen it the same way but he could not play the stripe off the 10 in the side even if he got position on it. the whole rack was open but didnt have any other balls close to the 10 ball. It was such a small margin to pocket the 10 that direction. If he would have shot it the other way he would have made it and extended the run. He made his decision and I asked him and he said it was the right time to shoot it so we didnt talk about it anymore.I thought the same. He had the whole rack to try to bump out that ball again.
So scarily eerie that you said that! Just yesterday I bought my frequent family-size box of Zatarain's New Orleans-flavored Red Beans & Rice at Walmart.Arnaldo you should sit down with Hu over a bowl of Red Beans and Rice someday, it gets better.
My sense of it is that he was top five, along with Shane, JL Chang, Darren Appleton and Dennis Orcullo.Sorry then - I meant general pecking order at the time in question.
So scarily eerie that you said that! Just yesterday I bought my frequent family-size box of Zatarain's New Orleans-flavored Red Beans & Rice at Walmart.
I cook the entire box at one shot, with the result that I routinely have a bowlful as the main item during four consecutive nights' suppers! I go at it about five times a year.
So easy and so tasty and nutritious with (for me) pieces of vegetarian sausage chopped-in. Maybe I should Zoom-meet Hu while he simultaneously enjoys his choice of his ideal RB&R.
Hell, that just inspired a thought in me that 25 to 50 or so, of us AZBers could periodically and collectively Zoom-meet -- screen-to-screen -- that way often. Assembling from all states and countries worldwide, with live visual and audio!
Arnaldo ~ Now I'm suddenly interested in reading reactions to this mutual-interest socializing idea (Zooming). Let's hear from you!
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Brilliant post.ShootingArts (Hu) said in post #387:
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While Shaw with his love of massaging the balls just so with lots of nudging doesn't have the same elegance as Mosconi he does have that same air from immediately after the break shot that everything is copacetic and he'll be shooting his next break shot in a minute or two. It is kinda hypnotic to watch him hitting 14.1 racks.
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Hu, There are so many writerly gems and perfect images conjured in those two vividly alive sentences of yours, I can't imagine anyone ever again capturing more precisely and completely the totally unique visual (and emotional) experience of watching prime Mosconi and prime Jayson beautifully running endless 14.1 racks with such rare and bewildering ease.
Kudos and appreciation for giftedly nailing in two sentences what so many fortunate spectators feel.
Arnaldo ~ Huge fan of exceptional writing and exceptional 14.1
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