Jerry Breisath talking about aiming
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Think this is the Second TIME for this U-TUBE!
He says it's pretty much the same as Ghost Ball.
But riddle me this: at one point (around 2:00) he says something like: your job is not to make the ball, but to stroke straight.
Did anyone see the video someone posted a while back of Greenleef with the big swarp in his stroke? Or how about Efren using BHE? Where does that leave stroking perfectly straight, with your shaft and tip traveling perfectly forward?
Lou Figueroa
BHE should still have a straight stroke...
Lou, BHE shouldn't be a swiping motion, it's still important to stroke straight... and there are always exceptions. For the vast majority their best pool will be gotten to by concentrating on stroking straight last...
Jaden
Lou, BHE shouldn't be a swiping motion, it's still important to stroke straight... and there are always exceptions. For the vast majority their best pool will be gotten to by concentrating on stroking straight last...
Jaden
I am confoosed. I thought BHE was a sideways motion. OK, maybe straight, sideways, but still sideways, and that would not allow you to make you cue track straight as he teaches.
Lou Figueroa
agreed. I used alot of BHE intil I watched that video 15 years ago. And I took lessons from him. Today I try to line up all my shots with the cue following straight through. but I sometimes still use a touch of BHE to fine tune my aim/position.
Jerry says "Most of your aiming is done before and while you're bending over the shot." A classic quote from one of the world's greatest instructors.
Second, I agree 100% that your entire job is to deliver the cue ball with a straight stroke. It, essentially, amounts to the idea that you must assume that you are properly aligned and that all that remains is to deliver a straight stroke. If you are still finding your aim once you are over the cue ball, Jerry implies, you have a problem, and you must stand up and correct your alignment.
Worth noting what this superstar of pool instruction has to say.
Second, I agree 100% that your entire job is to deliver the cue ball with a straight stroke. It, essentially, amounts to the idea that you must assume that you are properly aligned and that all that remains is to deliver a straight stroke. If you are still finding your aim once you are over the cue ball, Jerry implies, you have a problem, and you must stand up and correct your alignment.
Worth noting what this superstar of pool instruction has to say.
There are at least two ways to apply the principle of BHE. In one style, you do your aim with center ball, then pivot over to the amount of english you want and maybe even take some warmup strokes along that new line and then you come straight back and straight through the ball. I suppose you could call that "static" BHE.
In the other style, all of your warmups are with center ball and then on the final backstroke and forward stroke, you pivot the stick over to get the amount of side spin you want. This could be called "dynamic" BHE.
Other phrases for these two are "aim and pivot" and "aim and swoop." I don't think there is any universally accepted terminology at this point.
Jerry's job in the video is not to get you to shoot better, it's to get relative beginners to form a solid foundation. A consistent (pre and post) shot routine (I would not use the word "system" in this context) and the development of a straight stroke are two of the most important things a beginner can learn.I lost respect to his coaching style after I heard him making statements like - " Chin Lock " , "your job is not to make the ball, but to stroke straight".:frown::frown:
As for the chin lock stuff, I remember watching Corey Deuel ten years or so ago at the Reno Sands tournament and at that time before he stepped up to the shot, his chin, nose and cue stick were all on the line that the cue ball would be sent along. He started with his cue vertical, like "present arms" with it exactly in the plane of the cue ball's travel. It remained in that plane as he brought it down, took his warmup strokes and shot. His head also remained in that plane. It was a time when he was winning a lot of tournaments. Here's "present arms":
Jerry had it right..............
Hi there Bob,
Jerry had it right I think. One of the greatest all time teachers of our era.
He was getting it there, keeping it there and still keeping it there throughout the shot.
That's what it's all about. getting it right.
I respect you as a teacher from the thoughts you have shared with everyone. I can tell you know what you are talking about. As teachers we need to earn each others respect and you have mine.
Jerry had it right. It just needed to be taken to another level.
He was way ahead of anyones time. It was so brilliant and I don't think even Jerry knew how brilliant his teaching here was.
Like I said it just needed to be taken to another level. Many players didn't understand then and now they don't get it. But there are a few missing pieces to the aiming puzzle here and without them it might seem not to work for many players.
A tribute to one of the greatest teachers of the game.
Jerry B
Hi there Bob,
Jerry had it right I think. One of the greatest all time teachers of our era.
He was getting it there, keeping it there and still keeping it there throughout the shot.
That's what it's all about. getting it right.
I respect you as a teacher from the thoughts you have shared with everyone. I can tell you know what you are talking about. As teachers we need to earn each others respect and you have mine.
Jerry had it right. It just needed to be taken to another level.
He was way ahead of anyones time. It was so brilliant and I don't think even Jerry knew how brilliant his teaching here was.
Like I said it just needed to be taken to another level. Many players didn't understand then and now they don't get it. But there are a few missing pieces to the aiming puzzle here and without them it might seem not to work for many players.
A tribute to one of the greatest teachers of the game.
Jerry B
Jerry Has always been a great Teacher-
For some 25 yrs Jerry Brieseth -teaching, Coaching, whatever in the local states for yrs. I've never hear someone-who took lessons- Complain about his teaching methods or what he was teaching. He has a good solid voice and is understandable to me- we all want to see the meat-(magic,rightaway- he starts at the beginning and works his way up as you get better. Pool takes quite a few yrs to become good- to be great means continually ,practicing, doing routines- Basically continuinging the school forever!! Thanks Joey for reminding people and pointing out aspects of the game!! mark
For some 25 yrs Jerry Brieseth -teaching, Coaching, whatever in the local states for yrs. I've never hear someone-who took lessons- Complain about his teaching methods or what he was teaching. He has a good solid voice and is understandable to me- we all want to see the meat-(magic,rightaway- he starts at the beginning and works his way up as you get better. Pool takes quite a few yrs to become good- to be great means continually ,practicing, doing routines- Basically continuinging the school forever!! Thanks Joey for reminding people and pointing out aspects of the game!! mark