John Schmidt BANNED from Viking Tour
- Thread starter Southpaw
- Start date
9ballhustla
Banned
i dont understand why not take the 400 from the calcutta pot and just pay the guy back, no big deal.
Hustla
Hustla
chefjeff said:
Gee whiz, now I'm quoting my own post.
It came to my attention that someone thought that I was advocating using violence, in my post, above. I wasn't advocating the literal (see English thread
) breaking of thumbs; I was using that pool term for expressing what my disappointment would've been had I bet on John and how I would've let him know in no uncertain terms how I felt about his leaving and the future negative consequences of his (non)actions. Sorry for any confusion.I've seen this crap happen before...that's why my money stays in my pocket and would never go anymore to "professional" men's pool as gate receipts, or amateur calcuttas, or anywhere else pool (non)players want some of it....
hint hint. May the IPT change all of this soon. 
And, again, that bet didn't start the problem, did it?
Jeff Livingston
Questions answered. Case close.
3 Questions on this thread already answered:
1) Did JS acted Professionally?
Answer: No (As per above.)
2) Was the penalty from Viking Tour (MJ's) harsh?
Answer: No (As per above.)
3) Can the $400 be returned?
Answer: No (As per above.)
Case close. Back to lurk mode.
-----------------
I love pool. I love this board. It's like watching a soap.
MikeJanis said:
3 Questions on this thread already answered:
1) Did JS acted Professionally?
Answer: No (As per above.)
2) Was the penalty from Viking Tour (MJ's) harsh?
Answer: No (As per above.)
3) Can the $400 be returned?
Answer: No (As per above.)
Case close. Back to lurk mode.
-----------------
I love pool. I love this board. It's like watching a soap.
Last edited:
9ballhustla said:
1) Its not fair to the winners of the calcutta.
2) The calcutta is gambling, everyone should take their lumps if their horse is a quitter. Thats the risk you take when you buy a player.
3) To do a payback would set a bad precedent where someone could just quit if they got to the one loss side and their calcutta bettors could argue that they deserve their money back. Imagine how many would do this if their next match was Efren.
hey milf
im saying this to babys arm i understand you hate me and your smarter ,better looking,better golfer and richer more endowed get girlfriends easier and all that and maybe if im lucky you will sign a tshirt for me or something.but as far as you making up these lies about i dont appreciate it and i have even seen people get sued for slander but im sure you know that already because your smarter than me.
im saying this to babys arm i understand you hate me and your smarter ,better looking,better golfer and richer more endowed get girlfriends easier and all that and maybe if im lucky you will sign a tshirt for me or something.but as far as you making up these lies about i dont appreciate it and i have even seen people get sued for slander but im sure you know that already because your smarter than me.
Very simple solution, all players insist their names not be in the calcutta. Why should they let themselves be prostituted by gamblers and Mr. Janis for nothing, and on top of that they could be penalized, screw that, they came, paid their entry to play pool for themselves and no one else plain and simple. Do they have an obligation to the spectators and fans, yes to a degree but not to the degree Mr. Janis seems to think. They are not a bunch of whores of monkeys for his amusement and profit.
By the way, I hope Mr Janis at least gave the guy back his 10% ($40.00) or does he want to keep that as well and have John have to also pay him?
Screw the calcuttas, the players can stop this themselves real quick and stop their ass's from being sold like a bunch of whores. That is my opinion and I hope they take it.
By the way, I hope Mr Janis at least gave the guy back his 10% ($40.00) or does he want to keep that as well and have John have to also pay him?
Screw the calcuttas, the players can stop this themselves real quick and stop their ass's from being sold like a bunch of whores. That is my opinion and I hope they take it.
Better read fast! Soon it'll be back to threads on tip diameter and shaft composition. But hell, that's in here, too.
Last edited:
My .002
I am afraid I am quite slanted toward the tournament director and player auctions side. Like anything else, player auctions have their downsides. But until there is sufficient money for pool players to make a good living, auctions and gambling will still play a big part of the game. I personally love that aspect of the game and always will. Also how many players have you seen that take part in the auctions? A very high percentage from my experience. Most players are gamblers, whether it be cards, dice, golf,sports betting, etc.
It also brings in a lot of people who love to participate, that for one reason or another can't play. They often times put players in the tournament, stake matches and generally spend money freely. This helps the bottom line of the poolroom/tournament.
I have tremendous respect for someone like Jay Helfert who has devoted his whole life to the game. He certainly hasn't done it for the money(Matt Janis either). I know where he is comming from(although on a much smaller scale). I have supported tournaments, the pool industry, ran smaller tourneys, had a couple of pool rooms and put a few players in action. If this is the game you love and choose make the most of it - or make a career change.
** Remember if you want to be treated as a professional, you must act the part. Actions speak louder than words**
I am afraid I am quite slanted toward the tournament director and player auctions side. Like anything else, player auctions have their downsides. But until there is sufficient money for pool players to make a good living, auctions and gambling will still play a big part of the game. I personally love that aspect of the game and always will. Also how many players have you seen that take part in the auctions? A very high percentage from my experience. Most players are gamblers, whether it be cards, dice, golf,sports betting, etc.
It also brings in a lot of people who love to participate, that for one reason or another can't play. They often times put players in the tournament, stake matches and generally spend money freely. This helps the bottom line of the poolroom/tournament.
I have tremendous respect for someone like Jay Helfert who has devoted his whole life to the game. He certainly hasn't done it for the money(Matt Janis either). I know where he is comming from(although on a much smaller scale). I have supported tournaments, the pool industry, ran smaller tourneys, had a couple of pool rooms and put a few players in action. If this is the game you love and choose make the most of it - or make a career change.
** Remember if you want to be treated as a professional, you must act the part. Actions speak louder than words**
macguy said:
We don't have a stack of calcuttas around here in pool, but over the years I've seen my fair share of them at the the golf course and this is my opinion of them. Calcuttas are run by the "Old Boys Club" for the "Old Boys Club", and the "Old Boys Club" has always padded it's pockets on the sweat and labor of others. why make money doing something when you can make money from someone else doing something.
Calcuttas have an uncanny way of effecting the outcome of any event, and are bad for the sport.
Blackjack said:
David, I truly can't believe that you are defending this position. You. The person who is always advocating positive change to elevate the status of the pool world. I don't get it.
Yep. Johnny plays golf. But, he didn't forfeit a match to do it in this case, did he? C'mon.
I know you don't owe me or anyone else an explanation. However, this post sure appears to be 180 degrees from your previous communications.
pokerhammer
Banned
seems funny
seems funny that the dump incident in Miss. , the Josh Arieh episode, and now this all involve John Schmidt. There was also talk of a dump to Tony Watson? Where did that post go? Its not on here anymore.
seems funny that the dump incident in Miss. , the Josh Arieh episode, and now this all involve John Schmidt. There was also talk of a dump to Tony Watson? Where did that post go? Its not on here anymore.
jay helfert said:
I hate to burst people's bubble about Efren but I personally witnessed him dump 2 matches at a Joss event at Snookers in Providence a few years ago. It was the first time I ever saw him play and he dumped twice, both times to Bustamante. I knew who had what in the calcutta and suspected this would be the case(made some nice beans betting on Bustamante, everyone wanted to take Efren). To make things worse they were extremely obvious dumps. Efren missing multiple very easy shots at crucial times in the match. I mean he literally played like a "B" player, it was bad.
Unfortunately it`s all about how to end up with the biggest slice of the money. Bustamante had half of himself in the calcutta(which was HUGE) and Efren didn`t have any of himself. I guess he figured it was to expensive. He went for almost double what Bustamante went for. If I had bought Efren I wouldn't have been a happy camper.
George