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watchez said:
What did he get banned for? I didn't see anything out of line in his posts. It seems he was responding to John S.
John Schmidt BANNED from Viking Tour
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What did he get banned for? I didn't see anything out of line in his posts. It seems he was responding to John S.
George said:
We were sitting in the lounge at the Derby City and my buddy was chatting with another fellow who staked Parica to play in the 10ball Ring game. My buddy asked him why he didnt stake Efren. The replay was that Parica was the only Filipino that he trusted since all the others had done some business against his interests in the past. It seems that as long as pool players struggle to make money, even the best are subject to cutting up their backers, dumping matches or otherwise acting in a manner with questionable ethics. This is unfortunate but people just need to be aware of this so that they can make better choices when they lay their money on the line in the pool room.
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George said:
Oh, ok. thanks. I wish they would have left his post up though. I'm curious about the entire John Schmidt trials and tribulations.
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Rude Dog said:
Didn't seem he was too worried about getting caught since he used his real name in the post. lol
George said:
This has been my point all along. Many players I can think of I've seen do some horrible things (much worse than not showing up for a match!). Yet I rarely see these other players indiscretions being posted on this forum. John, despite how good a guy he is, seems to be constantly bombarded on this forum for whatever reason. I think its because there are a few people on here that don't like him and they fuel these threads.
MikeJanis said:
is that really true? let's see. 400 in the calcutta - er player's auction. you take 10%. the rest gets paid out I guess? then it's the player's responsibility to cover the 360. oh wait, that's 400. where did the rest go again? just out of curiosity, did you pay the guy who bought him back? or is that between john and him? makes a lot of sense to me. personally, I think the rule is bullsht. but your tour, your rules.
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watchez said:
Thanks watchez, I got the posts. I've read over them a couple of times now and I still don't get why this guy was banned. He said almost the exact same things that I've heard, but he quoted right from the horses mouth. I personally haven't met John, so I'll refrain from passing judgement, but I should be able to post anything I've heard as this is a public forum open to peoples opinions.
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If gotmilf was an alias that belonged to the person that was originally TheBabysArm, that's why they were banned. TheBabysArm was banned prior to this thread for something totally different than anything to do with this thread. Regardless of what good or bad things gotmilf said, if it's the same ip as TheBabysArm, that's grounds for being banned because that person was already banned.
ScottR said:David, I truly can't believe that you are defending this position. You. The person who is always advocating positive change to elevate the status of the pool world. I don't get it.
Yep. Johnny plays golf. But, he didn't forfeit a match to do it in this case, did he? C'mon.
I know you don't owe me or anyone else an explanation. However, this post sure appears to be 180 degrees from your previous communications.
Scott,
First off, my stance is this: From here on out I'm just another player, no different than you or anybody else. My involvement in "elevating the status of pool" is non-existent at this time. Some of my posts you will agree with, some you won't agree with. I can't promise you that you will like everything I will post, but I can promise you that I will express myself honestly.
I consider John a friend. That will make my perspective slanted in this situation. Some of the recent threads that have questioned his character are ridiculous if you ask me. Much like John (and many other players) I fail to see where I am committed to a person that buys me in a calcutta or 'player auction". Historically, players have been screwed by these "auctions" for years. Personally, I don't feel as if I "have to" trust anybody I have never met before just because they bought me in a calcutta - I don't care who it is. I don't owe them anything. Even if you buy half of yourself back from some of these guys, they are insulted that you took away some of their earning potential. You may not like hearing me say that, but that's reality. It is no secret that the TD's take a percentage of the player auction. That's life. Unless I participate in the auction, what good is it for me? I've already paid my entry, travel, hotel, food, etc, etc, etc... Now I have to worry about being whored out? As a player, I just ignore it most of the time. Its just a distraction.
I don't have much pity for the guy that lost $400 because that was a deal between him and The Viking Tour, not between him and John Schmidt. The guy gave his $400 and things didn't work out for him. That's the risk you take when you bet on horse. Sometimes it wins, sometimes it loses, sometimes it trots in the wrong direction. That is what makes gambling so exciting - the unexpected might happen. John missing his match was unexpected. It happens. Mike's hands were tied because this happened after the tournament started and he was committed to the Auction payout. John was wrong for missing his match, but then again I know how much John loves to golf, so I'm really not surprised at how he missed his match. He went golfing with Corey and Johnny and I know he probably had a blast. Welcome to wonderful world of pool. Never a dull moment.
A cut of the calcutta
David, the only tour (that I know of in the NE) that takes a cut of the calctta is the Joss Tour. All the "opens" or "ABCD's" I've been to leave all the calcutta for the players. Another thing I've seen at these tournaments is the Buyers ability to get his money back if the player doesn't take 1/2. In the wonderous world of pool, if a player doesn't want a piece of the action you need that option. And the player must buy 1/2 or he is barred from future calcuttas. Is this a NY thing?
Having said this, do you know if the Viking tour takes a piece of the calcutta? Are players offered 1/2?
David, the only tour (that I know of in the NE) that takes a cut of the calctta is the Joss Tour. All the "opens" or "ABCD's" I've been to leave all the calcutta for the players. Another thing I've seen at these tournaments is the Buyers ability to get his money back if the player doesn't take 1/2. In the wonderous world of pool, if a player doesn't want a piece of the action you need that option. And the player must buy 1/2 or he is barred from future calcuttas. Is this a NY thing?
Having said this, do you know if the Viking tour takes a piece of the calcutta? Are players offered 1/2?
Please note that Mike Janis offers to all players, that if a player does not want to participate in the calcutta, that player can take his or her name off that list. john Schmidt should have taken that option when he signed up for the calcutta. As I recall, if a player participates in the calcutta, he has to pay a minimum of $10 on himself if no one bids on them. Mike has made the rules clear for this.
John and any other top player knows, that people will bid on them in a calcutta and most of the time its for a good chunk of change. If John had played and did not want to buy half himself is one thing, to just let the TD, players and bidders, waste a good amount of time bidding, an absentee player without notice, he should be penalized! So I do not blame Mike for his decision, regardless of my thoughts on pool calcuttas.
John and any other top player knows, that people will bid on them in a calcutta and most of the time its for a good chunk of change. If John had played and did not want to buy half himself is one thing, to just let the TD, players and bidders, waste a good amount of time bidding, an absentee player without notice, he should be penalized! So I do not blame Mike for his decision, regardless of my thoughts on pool calcuttas.
Bill O said:
Some tours do and some tours don't. It has been stated in this thread that Mike Janis does (none of my business really) but he has every right to take a piece if that is the case. I'm sure that Mike can answer those questions in regards to the Viking Tour. The Viking Tour is the best tour out there because he does a great job.
