John Schmidt's 626

lfigueroa

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That post is 9 months old and those names were out on the forum an additional 5 months before that in another thread...let's not act like you just uncovered something that wasn't beaten to death already the last time you brought it up. I knew the names because I searched back 5 months and found them here.. Search a little deeper. Every point you are bringing up now was hashed out when you brought them up 9 months ago. Note I'm not suggesting anything was resolved...thats never happening.

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I didn't post that as any sort of a "reveal."

Your post was the first time I recalled seeing the BCA guys ID'd, so when I searched I was looking for your post. Maybe it was somewhere else but I don't remember. As to BD, I stopped subscribing to it a few years back.

Lou Figueroa
 

Get_A_Grip

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At the BCA: the PR guy and a race track guy.

And in recent years the BCA has been more about selling hot tubs than anything pool. I have not heard about Predator paying out anything. Do you have knowledge to share?

Lou Figueroa
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in learning new stuff
I thought that it was widely known through John's interviews after the 626 run that John had a stipulation in his contract with Predator, where they would pay him a lot of extra cash if he broke Mosconi's record. (I recall that the amount was 50k -- but don't quote me on that. I'm too lazy to go back and re-listen to all of his post-run interviews to try to find where this was discussed). But please see attached for a facebook post that John had made in the past indicating that yes indeed, he had been paid well for breaking the record.
 

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lfigueroa

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I thought that it was widely known through John's interviews after the 626 run that John had a stipulation in his contract with Predator, where they would pay him a lot of extra cash if he broke Mosconi's record. (I recall that the amount was 50k -- but don't quote me on that. I'm too lazy to go back and re-listen to all of his post-run interviews to try to find where this was discussed). But please see attached for a facebook post that John had made in the past indicating that yes indeed, he had been paid well for breaking the record.


What would you expect the guy to say?

In any case it's not exactly the most compelling of financial disclosure statements, IMO.

Lou Figueroa
 

haystj

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What would you expect the guy to say?

In any case it's not exactly the most compelling of financial disclosure statements, IMO.

Lou Figueroa

Are you thinking he should release a 1099?


All of the energy placed in the "Never 626" camps leads me to believe that no matter what is produced at this point it won't be enough.

Honestly, if I were JS, I wouldn't release the video now if for no other reason than to remain under the skin of the small minority of "Never 626".
 

lfigueroa

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Are you thinking he should release a 1099?


All of the energy placed in the "Never 626" camps leads me to believe that no matter what is produced at this point it won't be enough.

Honestly, if I were JS, I wouldn't release the video now if for no other reason than to remain under the skin of the small minority of "Never 626".


Of course not.

But let me ask you, because I actually don’t know: was there ever one of those oversized check presentations for the run? You know, such and such company congratulates JS for his historic accomplishment etc with a check for $X? A photo perhaps?

Lou Figueroa
 

alstl

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Are you thinking he should release a 1099?


All of the energy placed in the "Never 626" camps leads me to believe that no matter what is produced at this point it won't be enough.

Honestly, if I were JS, I wouldn't release the video now if for no other reason than to remain under the skin of the small minority of "Never 626".

If he would release it at a reasonable price I'd buy the DVD. There is a profit motive for him to release it unedited. Doesn't cost much to make a DVD. Accustats does it all the time.
 

logical

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I didn't post that as any sort of a "reveal."

Your post was the first time I recalled seeing the BCA guys ID'd, so when I searched I was looking for your post. Maybe it was somewhere else but I don't remember. As to BD, I stopped subscribing to it a few years back.

Lou Figueroa

Fair enough. I didn't even know there was such a thing as Billiard Digest and only knew the names because I searched and found that post from 12 months ago. I have no opinion about the qualifications, integrity or anything else regarding those two men, the BCA, Billiard Digest, John Schmidt, The Billiards Hall of fame, Predator, the Chinese Government, The New York Post (or is it the Times?), or Facebook.
 

haystj

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Of course not.

But let me ask you, because I actually don’t know: was there ever one of those oversized check presentations for the run? You know, such and such company congratulates JS for his historic accomplishment etc with a check for $X? A photo perhaps?

Lou Figueroa

Ah,, I see where you are going with this,,, got it,,,, good question, actually.

I would think if they did pay 50k there would be some kind of documentation on the web site.

They did do a really nice job documenting his accomplishment,, but no pics of a check presentation.

https://www.predatorcues.com/usa/pro-team/john-schmidt.html


Maybe they don't want to set a precedent if someone breaks 626???

Seems highly unlikely it will be broken anytime soon (or ever) but that could be a legal perspective. IDK
 

Black-Balled

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I don't think 1000 would sell @$100 was very quickly, fyi.

If he would release it at a reasonable price I'd buy the DVD. There is a profit motive for him to release it unedited. Doesn't cost much to make a DVD. Accustats does it all the time.

What is your thought on pricing ($)?

And how many do you think would sell?
50?
500?
1000?
 
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Black-Balled

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I don't think there could possibly be any sort of ongoing obligation to provide additional reward/s to subsequent record breaker/s.

They could just say it was from budget that no longer exists.
Ah,, I see where you are going with this,,, got it,,,, good question, actually.

I would think if they did pay 50k there would be some kind of documentation on the web site.

They did do a really nice job documenting his accomplishment,, but no pics of a check presentation.

https://www.predatorcues.com/usa/pro-team/john-schmidt.html


Maybe they don't want to set a precedent if someone breaks 626???

Seems highly unlikely it will be broken anytime soon (or ever) but that could be a legal perspective. IDK
 

arnaldo

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Fair enough. I didn't even know there was such a thing as Billiard Digest and only knew the names because I searched and found that post from 12 months ago. I have no opinion about the qualifications, integrity or anything else regarding those two men, the BCA, Billiard Digest, John Schmidt, The Billiards Hall of fame, Predator, the Chinese Government, The New York Post (or is it the Times?), or Facebook.[/QUOTE
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CONGRATULATIONS TO "LOGICAL" WHOSE REPLY REACHES THE 627 MARK

Arnaldo ~ Certified witness :clapping:
 
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Get_A_Grip

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Ah,, I see where you are going with this,,, got it,,,, good question, actually.

I would think if they did pay 50k there would be some kind of documentation on the web site.

They did do a really nice job documenting his accomplishment,, but no pics of a check presentation.

https://www.predatorcues.com/usa/pro-team/john-schmidt.html


Maybe they don't want to set a precedent if someone breaks 626???

Seems highly unlikely it will be broken anytime soon (or ever) but that could be a legal perspective. IDK
They only paid JS for breaking the record because JS knew that he was going to attempt the record and JS specifically negotiated with Predator to put that clause and amount in his sponsorship contract with Predator.

I highly doubt that any other players that Predator sponsors plays 14.1 at a high enough level to break the record, or if they do play at that level, they would need to decide before they finalize their contract to put it into the contract and actually make a go at it.
 

lfigueroa

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Ah,, I see where you are going with this,,, got it,,,, good question, actually.

I would think if they did pay 50k there would be some kind of documentation on the web site.

They did do a really nice job documenting his accomplishment,, but no pics of a check presentation.

https://www.predatorcues.com/usa/pro-team/john-schmidt.html


Maybe they don't want to set a precedent if someone breaks 626???

Seems highly unlikely it will be broken anytime soon (or ever) but that could be a legal perspective. IDK


It is kinda interesting that they didn't wring every possible bit of PR out this historic accomplishment.

I would have thought there would have been a big ballyhoo giving him the dough. Who knows... maybe it's out there locked up with the unedited tape.

Lou Figueroa
showing great restraint
not hitting the quote key
 

justadub

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It is kinda interesting that they didn't wring every possible bit of PR out this historic accomplishment.

I would have thought there would have been a big ballyhoo giving him the dough. Who knows... maybe it's out there locked up with the unedited tape.

Lou Figueroa
showing great restraint
not hitting the quote key

They seem to be using it on their company website. From Predators website:

"JOHN "MR. 600" SCHMIDT
Began playing with Predator in: 2018

Born: April 12, 1973

Resides: Hesperia, CA

Hometown: Keokuk, IA

{snipped tournaments and titles for brevity}

Special Accomplishments:
Highest 14.1 Run captured on film, 626 balls
Played on 2 Mosconi Cup Teams
Highest run on Diamond, 294 balls
Currently only living player with 7 runs of 400+ and 131 runs over 200 at straight pool"

https://www.predatorcues.com/usa/pro-team/john-schmidt.html

No photo ops or such, regarding the run. There is a video there, looking like an interview, which I cannot watch as I'm at work. But they are out there in the public, standing behind him, on their official company site.
 

xradarx

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Old/New(s)

Off topic:
I have to say this one liner is one of the best I've ever heard

It's from the 2001 movie "The Brothers".

I wouldn't...you already have the only highlight.

Sent from the future.
Wake up and pee, the whole world is on fire. This old saying comes from the fifties, as in 1950s.
Try this one on for a laugh...
If you aren't going to use your head for anything, you just as well have two a$$holes.
back to the future, now.. as JG would say "And Away We Go"! fare-the-well while tripping back to your home table
 
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