John Schmidt's and Corey Deuel's comments on aiming systems

AtLarge said:
This thread is now the longest ever on the Aiming Conversation forum.

Its length is exceeded only by
  • 8 threads on the Main Forum;
  • 5 threads on NPR;
  • 1 Sticky thread in W/FS; and
  • 1 thread in the Gallery.

[and possibly a thread or two removed from the current listings]

But I think it has been a good lesson in the valuable (and some not so valuable) twists and turns that a thread can take. It was started to highlight a couple pros off-the-cuff comments that seemed to be anti-aiming-systems, but has led to even greater awareness of the intricacies of aiming techniques.
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I agree. It's amazing how a thread can be posted with a particular intent, but yet that thread takes on a life of its own, completely blowing away the original intent.

Lots of twists and turns in this one, but man -- the data and knowledge that was shared!

Good job, folks. This is one of my favorite threads to read in a while!
-Sean
 
Congratulations.

You got the thread closed.



SpiderWebComm said:
Would you like to meet up and bet on that Mr. PJ Yes Man?

Hopefully you pay bets better than PJ does. I recall he still owes a me a few G's that the bridge doesn't have to be THE pivot point (as his pal Dr. Dave later found out made made up a new term called effective-pivot-point). I think he owes me his cue too.

Funny, I've been waiting on my cash/cue to arrive for like 3 years now.

I'll probably get paid when Dr. Dave does Ekkes's shot test.
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Mr. Wilson said:
Congratulations.

You got the thread closed.
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My apologies, Mr. Wilson. I won't post anymore in this thread. This thread is too important-- I hope it continues to provide players with great info. I just want others to know they can post. Won't happen again - sorry.
 
cjssecrets4u2 said:
Does this mean Neil and Pj ARE BACK???
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Nah, go ahead and post whatever you want CJ. You've made it clear that you want what you say to be the be-all-end-all and can't take constructive criticism. I thought you were here to actually help people and only wanted to post correct information. Silly me. I guess you really are here to build up a fan base to sell more DVD's.
 
Starting a New Discussion called Aiming Systems - The End Justifies the Means

Joe T said:
Yeaaaa, good job :wink: glad its back up.
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That's what "she said" Joe.:wink:..LoL it's interesting for me to go back and read how I initially got into this aiming system forum....I had no idea that is would lead to me divulging a secret....one that I had kept to myself all these years....one that's IMPOSSIBLE to understand unless you DO IT...., even for me...my DVD was completed last night, so now I have time to teach "the rest of the Story" of how the "Three Part Pocket System" makes ball pocketing More Effective and how the "Touch of Inside" opens up a whole new Game....you see the Game is already Perfect, it's just up to us to "Uncover IT".....

I AM starting a NEW THREAD in the AIMING SYSTEM called
AIMING SYSTEMS - THE END JUSTIFIES THE MEANS .....and posting the original thread that I posted about John S. and Corey D.'s discussion about the aiming system.....FEEL FREE TO ENTER YOUR OPINIONS AND I WILL START TO RESPOND AT 10 PM TONIGHT......Start your "Aiming System Engines" .......I've Dreamed About This Game Fats I Own IT
 
EvERYONE GET's BETTER....Even If I Have To Drag You Kicking And Screaming

Neil said:
Nah, go ahead and post whatever you want CJ. You've made it clear that you want what you say to be the be-all-end-all and can't take constructive criticism. I thought you were here to actually help people and only wanted to post correct information. Silly me. I guess you really are here to build up a fan base to sell more DVD's.
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Oh, but Neil,:smash: you are wrong, very, very wrong..:eek:...we have just scratched the surface.....and please I command you....NEVER BUY MY DVD....YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND IT.....but there's many on this forum that want to LEARN....and it's absolutely FREE.....I DON'T WORK FOR ANYONE.....I WORK ONLY FOR THE GAME OF POCKET BILLIARDS......so let's all get in "Dead Stroke".....I Will Continue Until EvERYONE GET's BETTER....Even If I Have To Drag You Kicking And Screaming .....LoL :welcome:
See Everyone Tonight at AIMING SYSTEMS -
THE END JUSTIFIES THE MEANS
 
cjssecrets4u2 said:
Oh, but Neil,:smash: you are wrong, very, very wrong..:eek:...we have just scratched the surface.....and please I command you....NEVER BUY MY DVD....YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND IT.....but there's many on this forum that want to LEARN....and it's absolutely FREE.....I DON'T WORK FOR ANYONE.....I WORK ONLY FOR THE GAME OF POCKET BILLIARDS......so let's all get in "Dead Stroke".....I Will Continue Until EvERYONE GET's BETTER....Even If I Have To Drag You Kicking And Screaming .....LoL :welcome:
See Everyone Tonight at AIMING SYSTEMS -
THE END JUSTIFIES THE MEANS
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Don't worry, I won't. I made that mistake once before. :rolleyes: You go ahead and reveal your secrets that no one else knows. (except for half the players out there, you just don't know they know it) And I wish you the best in your quest to prove that squirt doesn't exist.:rolleyes:

I was nice to you, even sent you some p.m.'s to explain things on here. And your response it to insult me. Scratch you. I'm sure you will get plenty of people on here to buy your DVD's. That should make you happy. Those really interested in learning how to play will get the VEPP series instead. On there, they will actually learn things. Good luck with your ego, champ. I'm done with responding to anything you post. You have proven to me that you have very little to nothing to actually offer anyone really serious about the game. Your knowledge is way too lacking about the game. You play great, but obviously, like many pros, don't really know much to be able to pass on worthwhile info. Count me out.
 
Neil said:
Don't worry, I won't. I made that mistake once before. :rolleyes: You go ahead and reveal your secrets that no one else knows. (except for half the players out there, you just don't know they know it) And I wish you the best in your quest to prove that squirt doesn't exist.:rolleyes:

I was nice to you, even sent you some p.m.'s to explain things on here. And your response it to insult me. Scratch you. I'm sure you will get plenty of people on here to buy your DVD's. That should make you happy. Those really interested in learning how to play will get the VEPP series instead. On there, they will actually learn things. Good luck with your ego, champ. I'm done with responding to anything you post. You have proven to me that you have very little to nothing to actually offer anyone really serious about the game. Your knowledge is way too lacking about the game. You play great, but obviously, like many pros, don't really know much to be able to pass on worthwhile info. Count me out.
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poor little spoiled baby....I'll tell you what...I'll challenge you to a game...I'll use a Touch of Inside on EVERY SHOT and you can use the whole Cue Ball .....if you're going to act like a spoiled brat then PROVE YOURSELF....take me up on my Challenge....I'll use a TOUCH OF INSIDE on ALL MY SHOTS and you can use THE REST OF THE CUE BALL.....you see I'm not selling any aiming systems, MY SYSTEM COMPLIMENTS ALL AIMING SYSTEMS...that includes PRO ONE.....Ghost Ball....CTE....CONTACT POINT AIMING and ALL THE REST.....My System is about CONNECTING to the POCKET and creating a ZONE PERCEPTION and MORE MARGIN FOR ERROR.......THIS IS CLEARLY NOT AN AIMING SYSTEM......SO Come on MR JOHNSON, LET'S PLAY POOL...IT
's IN THE WAY THAT YOU USE IT
 
cjssecrets4u2 said:
poor little spoiled baby....I'll tell you what...I'll challenge you to a game...I'll use a Touch of Inside on EVERY SHOT and you can use the whole Cue Ball .....if you're going to act like a spoiled brat then PROVE YOURSELF....take me up on my Challenge....I'll use a TOUCH OF INSIDE on ALL MY SHOTS and you can use THE REST OF THE CUE BALL.....you see I'm not selling any aiming systems, MY SYSTEM COMPLIMENTS ALL AIMING SYSTEMS...that includes PRO ONE.....Ghost Ball....CTE....CONTACT POINT AIMING and ALL THE REST.....My System is about CONNECTING to the POCKET and creating a ZONE PERCEPTION and MORE MARGIN FOR ERROR.......THIS IS CLEARLY NOT AN AIMING SYSTEM......SO Come on MR JOHNSON, LET'S PLAY POOL...IT
's IN THE WAY THAT YOU USE IT
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Name calling, and challenging me to a game. WOW! Sorry if I spoke the truth on here and you felt insulted by your lack of actual knowledge about how things actually work on a table and why. Just because you can play, doesn't mean you know what you are doing. And vice-versa. My intention was to help you, and others. You take that as insults, that's on you. As I said earlier, good luck with your DVD sales, and your "sales talk" on here. Leave me alone, I'll leave you alone. I want to help people, you want to sell DVD's. So be it.
 
Are you protecting all the poor, helpless pool players from the Professionals?

Neil said:
Name calling, and challenging me to a game. WOW! Sorry if I spoke the truth on here and you felt insulted by your lack of actual knowledge about how things actually work on a table and why. Just because you can play, doesn't mean you know what you are doing. And vice-versa. My intention was to help you, and others. You take that as insults, that's on you. As I said earlier, good luck with your DVD sales, and your "sales talk" on here. Leave me alone, I'll leave you alone. I want to help people, you want to sell DVD's. So be it.
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Let me get this straight...you send me a private messages trying to buddy up to me:nono: and give me credit for some stupid story about you and a homeless guy fighting over a pipe....you then try to tell me you told the police and they said you could have been put in jail for hurting the homeless guy:clapping: (you really want to hurt homeless guys?) .....man, you need to change medications.:rotflmao1:

What made you think I would stand by and let you decieve people Mr Johnson? Pathetic positions like yours represent a jealously and childishness that screams "no one can play with my toys" :crying:

You want to help people? DO what may I ask....you won't play me if I use "A Touch of Inside" on every shot??? Are you serious, do you know how big a handicap that is? How can you "help people" if you can't play yourself?
Are you protecting all the poor, helpless pool players from the Professionals? (while you're out beating up homeless people with a pipe?) You do realize I'm not the only one don't you? You do know I know all the rest personally? We have been pushed around and kicked by people like you long enough Mr. Johnson and at some point you have to be revealed how you really are. :barf:
 
cjssecrets4u2 said:
Let me get this straight...you send me a private messages trying to buddy up to me:nono: and give me credit for some stupid story about you and a homeless guy fighting over a pipe....you then try to tell me you told the police and they said you could have been put in jail for hurting the homeless guy:clapping: (you really want to hurt homeless guys?) .....man, you need to change medications.:rotflmao1:

What made you think I would stand by and let you decieve people Mr Johnson? Pathetic positions like yours represent a jealously and childishness that screams "no one can play with my toys" :crying:

You want to help people? DO what may I ask....you won't play me if I use "A Touch of Inside" on every shot??? Are you serious, do you know how big a handicap that is? How can you "help people" if you can't play yourself?
Are you protecting all the poor, helpless pool players from the Professionals? (while you're out beating up homeless people with a pipe?) You do realize I'm not the only one don't you? You do know I know all the rest personally? We have been pushed around and kicked by people like you long enough Mr. Johnson and at some point you have to be revealed how you really are. :barf:
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So sorry to see about your reading comprehension problems. And, my name is not Johnson. Please grow up and leave me alone. You twisting things to make me look bad only makes you look like a doofus. Just quit. Just curious, are you drinking right now??? I sent you a pm to thank you, and you have the class to twist that around and insult me. You are really something! And, sorry the pm went right over your head, most would have "got it" and felt real good. Guess it's time to put you on ignore.
 
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Living Legend said:
easy guys, you should let this go now :smile:
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CJ, I want to thank you for posting this earlier today. Sometimes it is amazing how the most mundane thing said can have such a profound impact on someones life.

Believe it or not, at least partially because of your statement, and others statements about it, I am not sitting in jail right now for felonious assault!

I was sitting here reading the forums and saw someone go into the back yard next door. (it's an empty house) I figured he might be going to take a leak or something because he looked like he might be homeless. After a little while, when he didn't come back, I went and checked on him. Just in time to grab his ankles as he was going through the window!

He was there to steal the piping in the house. He dove out the window and tried to come at me, which I blocked and took him down. That's when your statement came into play... my martial arts training consists soley of knowing how to disable and really hurt someone real quick. When I had him down, due to my health reasons, I knew a prolonged struggle was out of the question. So, I knew that if I wanted to keep him there until the cops arrived, I would have to disable him, and quickly, or let him go.

That's where thinking about your post, and then thinking about my past, and what I would have to do to him to detain him, made me think that that wasn't something I wanted to do. I kept feeling that I would be charged with something. After talking to the cops, I found out I would have been charged with felonious assault because it was not my house.

So, the guy got away on his bicycle, and I'm free to tell the story. Hate to think what might have happened if I hadn't been thinking about fighting and board breaking a little before that and just acted on instinct instead!

Now that the thread is totally derailed, what thickness of boards would you equate 1" of plywood to??
 
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