Joint material that hits like SS

JMD in VA

JMD in VA

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Hi guys!

I have played with a SS 5/16 14 for years and like the way it plays. I am about to get a cue built and was wondering what material can be used for the joint that plays like SS but is not SS.

To me, the SS plays solid and I would like to hear your opinions on what material I could go with that plays like it.

Thanks ahead of time for your knowledgeable responses.
 
Maybe you would like to try Damascus steel. :D

I think I have seen one on a PFD, five to six years ago.
 
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JMD in VA said:
Hi guys!

I have played with a SS 5/16 14 for years and like the way it plays. I am about to get a cue built and was wondering what material can be used for the joint that plays like SS but is not SS.

To me, the SS plays solid and I would like to hear your opinions on what material I could go with that plays like it.

Thanks ahead of time for your knowledgeable responses.
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Brass is probably as close as you can come.

Back in the day German Silver/Nickel Silver which is a form of Brass
was popular with some cuemakers. It is shinny and 'silvery', like SS.

Dale
 
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Let me be more specific. Should have done this before. Sorry.

I am looking for a material that looks like ivory; white or cream colored, that hits like SS or close to it.

Does it exist?

Juma?
Animal Horn?


Thanks again!
 
white SS

Think you will go with a ivory or faux ivory sleeved ss-joint.

If you like a one material full joint I would go with aegis.
Have a fullsplice cue with aegis joint and 5x16/14 piloted.
Plays real stiff and solid.
 
JMD in VA said:
Let me be more specific. Should have done this before. Sorry.

I am looking for a material that looks like ivory; white or cream colored, that hits like SS or close to it.

Does it exist?

Juma?
Animal Horn?


Thanks again!
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No.

You could try white plastic sleeved over SS. This could be done with
Ivory or Staghorn/buckhorn. But...

The thinner the sleve - the more like SS the performence - I personally would not trust Ivory to hold up, as in,
not crack. Stag is much 'tougher' than ivory, but still has limits.

HTH
Dale
 
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Hmmm... Interesting question. While I'm not a cue maker, the last 10 years I've tried a bunch of different configurations including a joss (ss 5/16-14 piloted) and the recently bought another joss (AV03 brown phenolic 5/16-14 piloted) they are different. It's not huge, but blindfolded I could definitely tell it was a different cue. Of course, it changes balance point, vibration transfer and other things. I should mention the SS joint cue has a wrap, the other one doesn't.

Somebody else mentioned German nickel, to me a slightly softer hit than stainless.

Recently picked up a durning, antler sleeve over wood 3/8-10. I can't pry it out of my wife's hands.

Any cue is a product of a multitude of different decisions, tip, ferrule, shaft taper, pin, joint material, construction techniques, and we can't forget the wood. Each element contributes a bit... For me, trying different things was the way to go.

When you like the SS hit, recognize other parts played a role and if you are ordering a cue where everything is as close to identical except the joint material, it might be close, but won't probably be the same.

I'm not a cue maker, so take my $0.02 for what they are worth.

YMMV

Joe
 
moose

you might want to hit a few balls with a cue that has a moose antler joint. not the same as ss, but you might like the hit, its very firm but not harsh
 
desi2960 said:
you might want to hit a few balls with a cue that has a moose antler joint. not the same as ss, but you might like the hit, its very firm but not harsh
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Not to hijack this thread, but does moose antler play similar to deer antler? Ive made a couple cues with solid deer antler joints and i love em. I might have to get some moose antler if you think its better though.

Joe
 
JMD in VA said:
Hi guys!

I have played with a SS 5/16 14 for years and like the way it plays. I am about to get a cue built and was wondering what material can be used for the joint that plays like SS but is not SS.

To me, the SS plays solid and I would like to hear your opinions on what material I could go with that plays like it.

Thanks ahead of time for your knowledgeable responses.
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I think a SS joint makes a cue play with a dead feel....... There are many other materials that play much crisper.

Kim
 
whammo57 said:
I think a SS joint makes a cue play with a dead feel....... There are many other materials that play much crisper.

Kim
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Can of worms.
Some SS are thin-wall and sleeved over phenolic.
They're not all heavy and thick mounted on wood.
 
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