Just for fun...How many rails can you hit???

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how many rails can you hit on a standard 9' table? i was playing around with some fun kick shots and i could get the cue ball to travel 9 rails on my GCIII with simonis 860. how many can you get it to hit? show a diagram of how your ball traveled....
 
I've seen the video of FL hitting 11 rails. Some people claim that he used Vaseline or something like that.
 
Hal said:
I've seen the video of FL hitting 11 rails. Some people claim that he used Vaseline or something like that.
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yea but how many can you do without using vasoline???


for some reason that just sounds wrong....:D
 
9.

Ive seen 10 when you hit nine rails "of a short rail" but have never made it myself.
 
Fixer said:
9.

Ive seen 10 when you hit nine rails "of a short rail" but have never made it myself.
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go to cuetable.com and use "cuetable" and show the diagram of this 10 rail shot and post it here.....
 
Oh, sorry you said 10.

Well its just like the niner only hits the 9-ball-rail first. Impossible to me even on a fast 760, but im no David Howard.

Btw I got the lines worked up now, must be a genius, but how to post a picture instead of the data?
 
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I remember seeing a video on this and I think the record is 26 rails. I think it started out with the cue ball close to the first diamond a few inches away from the rail. The ball was than shot using running english into that rail about a inch from the corner pocket. You want the ball to hit every adjacent rail at a shallow angle so it keeps picking up running english.

After seeing that and trying it I think that I could only get 11 rails max. I gave as it seemed pointless and I didn't want to keep putting burn marks in my cloth.
 
I can do 7/8 consistently - 9/10 if i plan on chasing the cueball down as it flies off the table every other attempt.

I don't believe it's possible on a normally configured table to get much more than 12 (three trips around the table)
 
I saw that too. Those Marx brothers are fun. :rolleyes: But really 26! Even 11. You are great!
 
John Barton said:
I can do 7/8 consistently - 9/10 if i plan on chasing the cueball down as it flies off the table every other attempt.

I don't believe it's possible on a normally configured table to get much more than 12 (three trips around the table)
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i think 9 is the realistic "most". 10 may be able to be done and even 11 semi possible but for 10 you'd have to have very fast cloth and 11 fast cloth and perfect rails, and both would have to be hit perfectly. that said i don't think you'll ever see 11. anyone who thinks they can do more than 9 i'd love to see a video of it. one piece of advise as i build on what John eluded to, don't have anything that you don't want damaged any where's near the table if you want to try and do beyond 9. :)
 
skins said:
how many rails can you hit on a standard 9' table? i was playing around with some fun kick shots and i...
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when i'm shooting,,,,,one too many.
 
skins said:
how many rails can you hit on a standard 9' table? i was playing around with some fun kick shots and i could get the cue ball to travel 9 rails on my GCIII with simonis 860. how many can you get it to hit? show a diagram of how your ball traveled....
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9 is pretty easy with new cloth. The pattern is very well known, and is part of the artistic pool competition. I think at the end of the shot, the cue ball has to end on a dollar bill.

On carom tables (10-foot), 9 cushions is fairly easy even with old cloth and rails. On a carom table with new cloth, I was trying the standard 11-cushion shot. That's like the 9-cushion, but the 8th-9th rails are "natural" or "running" because the cue ball goes so long off the 7th rail. Mike Massey happened to be in the room, and he made the shot on his third try without looking like he was really trying. At the recent 3-cushion challenge-shot competition in Las Vegas, Mike was practicing his "M-M" shot, in which he hits 10 cushions in a very strange order to draw an "M" on the table before the final two balls. He made the shot on 11 cushions once. Here are the rails -- I don't have the Wei table handy:

Stand at the foot of the table to watch. The cue ball starts in the lower-right corner. Then: middle of left side, head rail, right rail, left rail near middle, right rail near foot rail, foot rail, left rail near middle, head rail near right end, right rail, left rail about 1/3 away from your end, balls. That's 10. He also made it by hitting the foot rail and then the balls for 11 rails.

I think that 12 on a normal table is impossible without a masse shot. Sayginer has a 12-cushion masse shot on one of his videos. If someone claimed to be able to get 12 without some kind of trick or masse, I think they could get a lot of bets.

The 9-cushion shot is fairly easy on a 6x12 snooker table depending on the cloth and rails. The table where I play has the standard fuzzy snooker cloth and good cushions. On humid days you can stand at one end and send the cue ball straight up and down the table and hit the rail you are standing by three times. There is a report of a trick table on which you could hit the far rail 5 times -- on many pool tables, it is hard to hit the far rail 3 times.
 
I know 11 is possible cuz I watched a guy who builds tables do it. I dunno if it's intentional but he let the CB go a little airborne (or it got that way from smacking the first rail) and I think that helps cut a little bit of the friction down. Prolly mostly it's choosing the correct starting angle. I want to see a diagram of the ideal start for trying this.
 
Bob Jewett said:
9 is pretty easy with new cloth. The pattern is very well known, and is part of the artistic pool competition. I think at the end of the shot, the cue ball has to end on a dollar bill.

On carom tables (10-foot), 9 cushions is fairly easy even with old cloth and rails. On a carom table with new cloth, I was trying the standard 11-cushion shot. That's like the 9-cushion, but the 8th-9th rails are "natural" or "running" because the cue ball goes so long off the 7th rail. Mike Massey happened to be in the room, and he made the shot on his third try without looking like he was really trying. At the recent 3-cushion challenge-shot competition in Las Vegas, Mike was practicing his "M-M" shot, in which he hits 10 cushions in a very strange order to draw an "M" on the table before the final two balls. He made the shot on 11 cushions once. Here are the rails -- I don't have the Wei table handy:

Stand at the foot of the table to watch. The cue ball starts in the lower-right corner. Then: middle of left side, head rail, right rail, left rail near middle, right rail near foot rail, foot rail, left rail near middle, head rail near right end, right rail, left rail about 1/3 away from your end, balls. That's 10. He also made it by hitting the foot rail and then the balls for 11 rails.

I think that 12 on a normal table is impossible without a masse shot. Sayginer has a 12-cushion masse shot on one of his videos. If someone claimed to be able to get 12 without some kind of trick or masse, I think they could get a lot of bets.

The 9-cushion shot is fairly easy on a 6x12 snooker table depending on the cloth and rails. The table where I play has the standard fuzzy snooker cloth and good cushions. On humid days you can stand at one end and send the cue ball straight up and down the table and hit the rail you are standing by three times. There is a report of a trick table on which you could hit the far rail 5 times -- on many pool tables, it is hard to hit the far rail 3 times.
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THE DOLLAR BILL SHOT
(March Issue 2004)

This months Artistic Shot is from the stroke discipline and has a Degree of Difficulty (DOD) of 8. There are no object balls in this challenge, just a dollar bill. To set up the dollar bill, place its edge even with the head cushions nose. The bill is centered halfway between pocket D and the first diamond over from pocket D, as diagrammed.

The cue ball is in hand behind the centerline, (B-E). The objective of this challenge is to shoot the cue ball 8 or 9 cushions in diagram pattern to the dollar bill. The cue ball must stop on or over the dollar bill. The vertical edge of the cue ball closest to the dollar bill will determine success of the shot.

Here are a few helpful hints on how to execute this shot. I place my cue ball in the 1 x 1 diagram quadrant where the number 8 is in the diagram. If you place the cue ball as diagram you risk the chance of hitting your hand on the table as you follow through, You'll need to use at least a 10 inch bridge length so you can execute a long fast warm up stroke. I cue the cue ball with a touch of left English and a touch of draw. The closer the cue ball hits the fifth rail by pocket E, close to scratching, the better your chances of making the shot. If your head is low on the cue when you shoot pool, stand up more so your upper body doesn't get in the way as you follow through with this powerful stroke. Next months Artistic Shot will be from the jump Discipline and have a DOD of 7.

http://www.onthebreaknews.com/Sarge1.htm
 
ccn7 said:
THE DOLLAR BILL SHOT
(March Issue 2004) ... http://www.onthebreaknews.com/Sarge1.htm
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I think the contact locations on the cushions are drawn slightly off, so that for the third and fourth cushions you want to hit much closer to the corner pocket. As Sarge said, if you put the cue ball where diagrammed, you have a good chance to break your hand if you use a stick level enough to keep the cue ball on the table.

I agree with the earlier poster who pointed out that if the cue ball is airborne between cushions, it keeps its speed better. Sometimes you can get the cue ball to go over the third cushion, which can excite the audience.
 
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