Kamui tips, or it is just me??

ctran

ctran

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last night I played with a shaft with Kamui black M tip installed last year. I haven't played with it in 7-8 months. It played like a monster last year when I just installed the tip, but not last night.

before play I scuffed the tip using the Kamui gator grip, it looked nice and ready to rock. but I was surprised how it performed. I use Cosmo chalk and the tip did not hold chalk well. I miscued often and to me honest the tip felt horrible to me. I felt it did not "hold" the cue ball long enough at the contact moment, it felt dead. I miscued even after chalking, after just 1 hour of play I looked at it and saw that it needed scuffing again.

I admit that I played awful last night and everything was off, stroke, feel, bridge hand. I played whole 2weeks of football prior to last night (2 games every 3 days) without any pool session, and my physical is not as normal. but the tip was there to show for, it was not the same it had been right after installation.

I have another shaft with same kamui black m, and it showed the same, holds chalked poorer over time, more miscue, and the top layer nearly popped out.

so is it time for a new tip? I must say my tip looks like newly installed bcoz I haven't played with it for long.

do you guys have the same prob with Kamui tips? and what tip would you recommend instead of Kamui?

thanks,
Cuong.
 
Yep. That's why they came out with $27 dollar chalk so you don't miscue with there shit tips.
 
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ctran said:
last night I played with a shaft with Kamui black M tip installed last year. I haven't played with it in 7-8 months. It played like a monster last year when I just installed the tip, but not last night.

before play I scuffed the tip using the Kamui gator grip, it looked nice and ready to rock. but I was surprised how it performed. I use Cosmo chalk and the tip did not hold chalk well. I miscued often and to me honest the tip felt horrible to me. I felt it did not "hold" the cue ball long enough at the contact moment, it felt dead. I miscued even after chalking, after just 1 hour of play I looked at it and saw that it needed scuffing again.

I admit that I played awful last night and everything was off, stroke, feel, bridge hand. I played whole 2weeks of football prior to last night (2 games every 3 days) without any pool session, and my physical is not as normal. but the tip was there to show for, it was not the same it had been right after installation.

I have another shaft with same kamui black m, and it showed the same, holds chalked poorer over time, more miscue, and the top layer nearly popped out.

so is it time for a new tip? I must say my tip looks like newly installed bcoz I haven't played with it for long.

do you guys have the same prob with Kamui tips? and what tip would you recommend instead of Kamui?

thanks,
Cuong.
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I got a Kamui med. blk , and the only time I shape/scuff it is when it gets really hard and starts to glaze. At that point, it won't hold chaulk. Probably no tips do come to think of it. Even on a hard miscue,my tip never looked really bad from it, and at most took a minor scuff to reshape the edge of the tip.

I have yet to see a layer of tip "pop-off" , or about to "pop-off."

Take really good care of your tip, and it will take care of your shot.

There is a good chance you may have gotten a "counterfeit" tip. I know while back there were many out on the market.

I'll still (highly) recommend Kamui
 
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Kamui black is shit, i installed the S on my shaft, i have got totally disappointed. It doesn't feels like multi layer of skins but paper. I still prefer Kamui 8 which has no more stock.
 
trob said:
Yep. That's why they came out with $27 dollar chalk so you don't miscue with there shit tips.
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Lol, I cant use that chalk either :thumbup:

Dunnn51 said:
I got a Kamui med. blk , and the only time I shape/scuff it is when it gets really hard and starts to glaze. At that point, it won't hold chaulk. Probably no tips do come to think of it. Even on a hard miscue,my tip never looked really bad from it, and at most took a minor scuff to reshape the edge of the tip.

I have yet to see a layer of tip "pop-off" , or about to "pop-off."

Take really good care of your tip, and it will take care of your shot.

There is a good chance you may have gotten a "counterfeit" tip. I know while back there were many out on the market.

I'll still (highly) recommend Kamui
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Thanks, but have you tried to leave the tip unplayed for a few months? as I said before playing with it I scuffed it already.

the tip I got was 100% genuine, I am sure no counterfeit.

to be honest Kamui tips are the only "quality" product I can have direct access to that is genuine here in Vietnam. previously there was Moori also but not now. I played with Kamui Original S, SS and Black S, M and honestly I don't feel 100% satisfied of them.

maybe I should try another.
 
Just a Tip for you guys.

Ultra Skin tips. They have Kamui running scared right now.
You don't need special chalk or scuffers to make them work either.

Check out the tips in the Machinery Forum on AZ.
Tome Hays runs specials on his tips frequently and any AZ member is entitled
To special discounts and pricing.

They are considerably cheaper than a single Kamui tip.

I am at the point now where I only stock Ultra Skins and a couple of other brands.

I don't have to. People are coming up to me and asking for the same tip that I installed on
their friends cue. Word of mouth and I no longer have to sell them. They sell themselves for the most
part.

Do yourselves a favour and you will see why many people are trying and switching over to the Ultra Skins.
 
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I'm on my second Kamui Black Soft in two years...I misscue maybe once every 200 racks, and only because I cue'd it wrong. I don't shape it, the chalk (Masters or Blue Diamond) is enough to keep it in shape. I tip pick it (straight, no twisting) maybe once every 50 or so racks. I have zero problems with it...I'm always surprised when I hear others have a problem with glazing or misscues...My tips hold chalk perfectly fine, even when "glazed"...?
 
It depends on your style of play.

Kamui Tan should last on term of performance.

Kamui Black, not so much. Stopped playing one for around 2 months, it became so hard that I kept miscuing even with Kamui chalk. I scuffed using the Gator tool, still didn't perform as well as it did, so I took off 2 layers, reshaped, rescuffed. It turned to be a bit better than before, however, a few days later, this same tip got hardened again.
 
climate related ?

alanvo said:
It depends on your style of play.

Kamui Tan should last on term of performance.

Kamui Black, not so much. Stopped playing one for around 2 months, it became so hard that I kept miscuing even with Kamui chalk. I scuffed using the Gator tool, still didn't perform as well as it did, so I took off 2 layers, reshaped, rescuffed. It turned to be a bit better than before, however, a few days later, this same tip got hardened again.
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To the OP:
Sorry if my post seemed arrogant (no coffee this morning). :sorry:

From where Alvano lives/travels perhaps it is weather related. I replaced mine last Autumn. My other is about 18 m0nths old.(its due end of this session) . My cues/tips never get a long rest as I play/practice 6/wk. Every 6 weeks or so, my Kamui blk's will close-up, stop holding chaulk,&get shiny. (Glazing). The miscues/missed shots for an unknown reason occur more often toward the end of this period, prompting reshaping/scuffing.

I've been told by many and believe myself that Kamui blk mediums are actually more like med.-hard.
The browns do seem to fare better for occasional play. I know of a few older players that don't play often; they like the browns.

All this having been said; Last year there was quite a bit of concern about counterfeit Kamui tips. (I know I was concerned).

Have coffee: will travel (so to speak) :)
 
They do play one level harder than you expect...Two things I noticed that helped me.

1. use a flatter bevel...I use a nickel bevel, a dime shape is too much, I tended not to get as much action with the smaller bevel. Nickel shape is perfect. The flatter shape may help you with the misscue problem. I know it doesn't sound logical, but I get insane action on the cue ball with the flatter Kamui Black, more so than with a smaller more rounded bevel.

2. the tip "settles" into a hardness based on your type of play. If you tend to hit the CB firm, your tip may get a little harder than if you baby your shots as a rule. I even break with my Kamui from time to time, no problem. My tip is about half it's original thickness (about 8 months old) and it's absolutely perfect. You may want to give it a little more time to adjust.

If you don't like it, you don't. I prefer it to Kamui Brown (I have that on my other shaft); the Kamui Brown is too thick and mushrooms a tiny wee bit; plus it's just a little too soft for my taste...but that's a personal preference thing. I play in a rather hot/humid environment, so my Kamui Black Soft seems to thrive in this condition. I'm a big fan of milkduds, by the way, so if I can't find a Kamui Black Soft, I go with a milkdud. They feel the same to me.
 
Of course you will have problems with your tip. You need to buy their chalk. its only $25 or so and grips the tip superbly, brilliantly and excellently :thumbup:

I just don't know why all these world champions insist on using Master Chalk when they have this option... :thumbup:
 
i've had similar problems with kamui tips. i'll still use them because i can't 'find anything better. right now i'm using a triangle. a guy i know has a line on some real good ones. you know how f'n hard those are to find. i bought a box of triangles and only had 2 good ones in the whole f'n box. the ones i get from my guy now are all good. i've bought maybe 6 so far and every one has been a keeper
 
I have tried a few of the Kamui tips and found them to be of good quality, as good as any other layered tip. There are many different flavors out there so I really think it just comes down to individual preference. Usually if I miscue, it due to a poor stroke, or not being chalked up well on the tip. One thing for sure, with the amount of folks making tips now days, the options are endless.
 
It could be the tip, but honestly it sounds like you just shot bad. Maybe you just got a bad piece of chalk. Even if cosmo chalk works fine, sometimes you get a dud.
 
I recently made a switch from Kamui to G2 and I am in love with my G2 tip. I honestly dont think I have miscued yet. I think the G2 grips the cue balls so much better than kamui. To me all around, it just "feels" better compared to the Kamui.
 
@Dunnn51: I fully understand your doubts about counterfeit, it has always been a concern here in my region, but I am sure I get the genuine product because by friend is a local distributor of Kamui lol. however I heard different feedback from players in my region also and maybe it is down to inconsistent quality of different batches.

@poolplayer2093: yes at the moment I have not found a better tip than Kamui, it's just because i am not satisfied with the tip, so I think I will try another

@Bella Don't Cry: I have kamui chalk and really cant get on with it, maybe I have prob with expensive chalk lol

@alanvo + DamienLuu: I tried and like the milk dud, I have some in stock here and will put it on soon. but I also realized some shortcoming compared to layered tip also

@Maik + Jive + lukemindish: G2 M tips just arrived this afternoon, cant wait to put it on one of my shaft

@CreeDo: yes I played dogshit last night, but I was shocked i did not recognize how good my cue was last year, I completely lost feeling of cue, but the hit was most strange to me, I usually play with another shaft with Kamui black M also, but it doesn't like the shaft I used last night.

I recently bought a cue that came with Hirano M, I haven't tried it before but the seller said the tip was installed 2 years ago and unplayed. I hit with it and it brought the feel and the hit I like, and holds chalk much better than Kamui, I will shoot with that shaft for the time being and also try G2, ultra skin tips on other shafts. honestly I think the opportunity of choosing from different tips these days comes together with an agony choosing from them.
 
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