Kamui's just the best tip TODAY period.

Personly I think it is hard to beat a Le Pro tip ... (when and if you can find a good one).
 
I got a few Kamui's and put one on my shaft a few months ago. I loved it! It didn't flatten, mushroom, miscue or anything. After about a month and a half or so I noticed that it still played well but was more prone to miscues. I've always used the same chalk, chalk between every shot, stay down, take my time etc but I was now miscueing on shots that I was never miscueing on before. All in all I do like Kamui's a lot but I my initial impression of them is different that how I feel about them now. The first one I used was a medium and now I am trying a Soft to see how I like that one. I think the soft is better suited to my play style.
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from my experiences,Kamuis need a little maintenence.you can't just put them on and chalk for 12 months.every couple of weeks or once a month ow whenever you see fit,you need to scuff them just a little.don't really remove any material,just scuff them abit.your problems will be solved.


i agree Talismans are bad.
 
Agreed

masonh said:
i've been using them for 4-5 years too.they used to cost like $20 and you could only get them in one place.

you can't even compare them to Mooris.it is like apples and oranges.
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I have the Kamui Hard on all of my cues, and it is the best tip available in my opinion. And now you can get them for $11-$13 bucks.

Can't be beat.
 
DJKeys said:
I have the Kamui Hard on all of my cues, and it is the best tip available in my opinion. And now you can get them for $11-$13 bucks.

Can't be beat.
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SOLD!
I'll get more. :)
 
I like the Kamui tips but most people around here haven't heard of them yet unless they are on AZ. I have installed several of them so far and they do cut nice and play well IMO. Has everyone seen a wide range on "dealer" pricing on the Kamui tips? Chris.
 
I have not tried the Kamui tips. I was a diehard Moori Med fan for years...but only the originals...which are pretty much long gone by now. Back in June of '07, I received a cue that had a different layered tip on it, that was sligtly harder than the Moori M's I was used to, but felt fantastic to me right from the get go, but also had about 3 months prior play on it from the previous owner.

So, I emailed the cuemaker and asked him what the tip was, and he told me...for everyone else, the answer is 'special'...LoL. Well, let me tell you, after 10 months of play, I just needed to reshape it a tad a few weeks ago. It holds chalk extremely well, and runs about $6.00 each on the retail level. Can't hardly beat that with a stick, for a layered tip.

Recently got another cue from the same maker, and requested the same tips. I have to admit, brand new, I do not like them so much...but they're breaking in now, and getting better and better everyday...so I am a happy camper! :)

Lisa
 
The miscue thing was also my experience with Kamui tips when they were introduced here in the USA about 4 years ago. A few months ago I bought a few of each of the new generation in all hardnesses but haven't tried them yet. I want to see if perhaps I got a lousy batch of Kamui tips initially. I love a good Moori Medium III from the tin series. Nothing else like it for me. I have had a lousy Moori or two, but when they are right, they require almost zero maintenance after they are played in and re-trimmed. They hold chalk and have just the right amount of bite, IMO. One of the best things I did was to save a half tin of them for my own playing cues. I'm glad there are lots of different tips available. Not everyone is going to like the same thing and its okay. Years ago there were only a few choices for a decent tip.

Martin



DiamondDave said:
I'll agree with Paul on what he just said.

I got a few Kamui's and put one on my shaft a few months ago. I loved it! It didn't flatten, mushroom, miscue or anything. After about a month and a half or so I noticed that it still played well but was more prone to miscues. I've always used the same chalk, chalk between every shot, stay down, take my time etc but I was now miscueing on shots that I was never miscueing on before. All in all I do like Kamui's a lot but I my initial impression of them is different that how I feel about them now. The first one I used was a medium and now I am trying a Soft to see how I like that one. I think the soft is better suited to my play style.

Dave
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start with the softest ,then harder.

I would like to ad something. no proporsity means accuraccy, they allow more engish with less effort. easyier to draw, easier to follow. They give you 12 shots to take to the table and practice. Some of these are super-stroke larry nevel shots. from every where on the table. not one tip company has ever made the claims that they make. First were just kamui med. Kamui II's are 5 hardness, they also make other products from the leather cases, They sell world wide- 11mm and 13mm tips. I know of a few thousand that have been put on, the cue repair guys like them because they are not oily and do not delaminate and loose 10-from a hundred. They are graded but a real cue guy uses a tool and can tell you the exact hardness of each tip. ( if the cue repair man plays 5 bucks,and these cost 10, how much does he make,these last 2-3times longer ,so you need retiping less often. Which do you think most not all will sell? That means your cue has less deflection,and you don't need the supershafts,use the shaft that has been made ,balanced for your cue. key word no proporsity. they are dependable-time will tell us more. thanks mark
 
i like the tin mooris also. after the mushroom stage they play very well. seems like the hardness went up with the new ones. softs play like meduims and mediums play like hards.

still hard to beat everests for me. i just heard one from 2 tables away and knew they were the sh1t. i havent switched since. my new skip weston built in 2004 has mooris i think. they play very well also. when i need new it gets everests though!!!
 
dave sutton said:
i like the tin mooris also. after the mushroom stage they play very well. seems like the hardness went up with the new ones. softs play like meduims and mediums play like hards.

still hard to beat everests for me. i just heard one from 2 tables away and knew they were the sh1t. i havent switched since. my new skip weston built in 2004 has mooris i think. they play very well also. when i need new it gets everests though!!!
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Actually Dave....I believe that Skip builds his cues with Triangles in mind...they are his personal favorite tip.

Lisa
 
HollyWood said:
I would like to ad something. no proporsity means accuraccy, they allow more engish with less effort. easyier to draw, easier to follow. They give you 12 shots to take to the table and practice. Some of these are super-stroke larry nevel shots. from every where on the table. not one tip company has ever made the claims that they make. First were just kamui med. Kamui II's are 5 hardness, they also make other products from the leather cases, They sell world wide- 11mm and 13mm tips. I know of a few thousand that have been put on, the cue repair guys like them because they are not oily and do not delaminate and loose 10-from a hundred. They are graded but a real cue guy uses a tool and can tell you the exact hardness of each tip. ( if the cue repair man plays 5 bucks,and these cost 10, how much does he make,these last 2-3times longer ,so you need retiping less often. Which do you think most not all will sell? That means your cue has less deflection,and you don't need the supershafts,use the shaft that has been made ,balanced for your cue. key word no proporsity. they are dependable-time will tell us more. thanks mark
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No offense but....WHAT?
 
HollyWood said:
I would like to ad something. no proporsity means accuraccy, they allow more engish with less effort. easyier to draw, easier to follow. They give you 12 shots to take to the table and practice. Some of these are super-stroke larry nevel shots. from every where on the table. not one tip company has ever made the claims that they make. First were just kamui med. Kamui II's are 5 hardness, they also make other products from the leather cases, They sell world wide- 11mm and 13mm tips. I know of a few thousand that have been put on, the cue repair guys like them because they are not oily and do not delaminate and loose 10-from a hundred. They are graded but a real cue guy uses a tool and can tell you the exact hardness of each tip. ( if the cue repair man plays 5 bucks,and these cost 10, how much does he make,these last 2-3times longer ,so you need retiping less often. Which do you think most not all will sell? That means your cue has less deflection,and you don't need the supershafts,use the shaft that has been made ,balanced for your cue. key word no proporsity. they are dependable-time will tell us more. thanks mark
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Time will tell everything, Thanks Mark.
 
I've migrated to Everest for myself, and all of my custom cues get them. They play good, and last well.
I like the fact that they are made here in the US, and the people at Tiger Products are a pleasure to do business with. Most of my repair customers either want cheap single layer tips, or Everest and Sniper tips. Once in a great while I get a Moori fan.
 
I have used the Kamuis for a couple of years.
In the beginning I had problems installing them where I use a sharp cut tool
in my lathe (with those interchangeable tips on the cut tool) to get them rounded even.
It seems some times to cause the trimmed sides to expand in extreme cases where the layers is not equally in height. I had to cut off several tips related to this.
I guess the lath tool is not sharp enough and cause to high temperature and damage the tip (using 650Rpms), so I'm looking for another tool I could sharp (in stead of changing the tip) for this.
The knife trick has not worked out for me (fresh carpet knife blade) but then I have not tried wetting the sides with wather.

For me the tips is more value for money. Putting on a new tip on a customers shaft results sometimes in "Wow, that's a big tip..." comment where I have to take of some additional layers to make them happy. The most popular ones are soft and Medium-soft since Kamuis seems to be harder than Moori.

I like'em and is my current "weapon of choice" since the Moories seems to go down in quality.

N
 
LoGiC said:
I think what Paul means is you haven't given fair time to try until you've used the tip for a while. People in general aren't prone to like change. When I first tried a Kamui, I hated it. I was like this plays like shit. But that was a combination of a crap cue and an amateur tip job. I put one of one of my cues and couldn't believe it.

Of course with the size and hardness of a Kamui, wearing it down is gonna take a long time...
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LoGiC said:
When I first tried a Kamui, I hated it. I was like this plays like shit. But that was a combination of a crap cue and an amateur tip job.
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My Lucasi ain't a "crap cue". And although my tip was put on by an amateur, it was an excellent job. Need I remind you, I said Kamui's were great and you told me they were shit. A month later, you came back with Kamui's on all your cues, repping them like you got paid to do it.
 
Sheldon said:
I've migrated to Everest for myself, and all of my custom cues get them. They play good, and last well.
I like the fact that they are made here in the US, and the people at Tiger Products are a pleasure to do business with. Most of my repair customers either want cheap single layer tips, or Everest and Sniper tips. Once in a great while I get a Moori fan.
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Sheldon took the words right out of my mouth....I agree 100% with his statement. I've also installed & used a large amount of Kamui's and they are indeed a superior tip & I'll purchase more. I would like to share something though....the new Molavia II's are the absolute equal....except they are less expensive and seem to actually hold chalk a bit better. They install like a dream too. The Molavia II SOFT....is the closest thing to the hit of the good old soft/med Moori's before they became too hard hitting & glassy. I also have very reliable inside info that a new Moori is about to be released....its been improved with less layers that are fatter. This is suppose to allow them to have the softer hit that everyone searches for. With all that being said....my personal cue sports a Sniper...and I wouldn't swap it for anything...but thats just my personal preferance on that particular cue.:)
 
I think this converation on the "Best Tip" is funny.

The best tip is the tip that feels and plays the best for "yourself" which includes the the cue you are playing with. Cues and shafts all have a different feel and I use different tips on different cues. Overall I prefer Medium Moori......but I have some cues with Le Pro they hit awesome and some with Triangle etc.

World Champions and guys in the local gin mills that have used Elk Master for years.

World Champions and guys in the local gin mills that have played with Le Pro for years.

World Champions and the guys in the local gin mills that have played with Triangle for years. Etc.

There is no one in this world that can tell you what the best tip for you is....it's all empirical.


Bottom line use the tip that works best for you. There is absolutely no specific best tip.....except maybe for you in your mind.
 
I tried a Kamui med/soft, freeking thing was so hard it would not hold chalk and miscued all over, horrible tip. Back to the Moori
 
Man..you guys are really missing out by not trying a Molavia. I think the Molavia Hard is probably the best MH tips out on the market today. Been using it for over 4-5 years and it's the most consistent tip for me...before that it was the original MH Moori. The other tip that I really liked is the Original Kamui with one hardness. I used to have 1 Molavia Hard on one of my shaft and the original Kamui on the other...playing for one year with both tips, I ended up choosing the Molavia and have stuck with it ever since because I prefered how the hit of the Molavia feel to me. I found that the molavia allowed me to draw the ball better any other hard tip on the market which were quality that you normally find in a soft tip. Don't get me wrong, the original Kamui was a killer tip and I think it was consider to be the best among the three by many in Japan.

The hit of the tips is very subject and personal to the players...so really if ou want to find the best tips for yourself....just try one! If you haven't try one for at least 3 month plus...than you'll never know what you're missing.

I have guys that swear by Molavia and guys that try it and it wasn't for them. I think that's probably the same with every tips whether is everest, talisman, sniper, etc. etc. Only you know what tips will work for you based on your style of play and how often you play.

Regards,
Duc.
 
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