I thought to myself, "self, you can make that" (6.5% percent of the time)
no. i can draw just as good with a rock hard worn-in LePro as with any soft tip.Do soft Elkmaster tips really get more draw? I thought it was because the cue balls of that era weighed less due to over use.
Most people don't know that Keith was actually a good rider. Good enough to be an exercise boy at Hollywood Park race track when he was a teenager.
Most people don't know that Keith was actually a good rider. Good enough to be an exercise boy at Hollywood Park race track when he was a teenager.
I would be very happy hitting that shot 6.5% of the time, I didn't even bother trying, it's outta my skill range.I thought to myself, "self, you can make that" (6.5% percent of the time)
You people get ass hurt to much. He didn’t say he could beat him he said he didn’t play smart lol I would have said he played to aggressive when he should play safe but that doesn’t mean I think I can beat him.Play him his golf game one time !! See if he’s not a smart player !!! Probably still can bet what you want
Sometimes there is distortion in the camera but Keith's shot looks like pretty much straight in. If you watch carefully he cheats the pocket so that the ob just brushes the right facing. The cb gets more angle off that straight in shot than it has a right to, but it seems that cheating was enough to create it. Light speed off the rail to brush the right facing!I thought to myself, "self, you can make that" (6.5% percent of the time)
Transcribed by JAM.
Keith's words: It wasn't an easy shot. I sort of made it look easy than it really was. I had to hit the ball in the right-hand side of the pocket with top right, digging into the cueball a little bit, stunning the cueball, and force-following with the right-hand english. I was sort of lucky to get as much english on the ball as I did. Being on the rail and straight in is what makes the shot tough.
When you have slower cloth, it makes the shot a lot harder than when you have fast cloth. That shot is a little easier with bigger pockets, but those pockets weren't buckets. Me personally, I've played with both wood and carbon shafts, but all my cue-tip high spins and cutting balls when using the spin, I seem to do it a lot better with the wooden shafts than the carbon fiber shafts.
Thanks for the above! Nothing like hearing it from the man himself. I actually made the shot several times after reading his description of it. Nothing like making it , with one chance, in a match like that.
My man Keithly! I really like the way you described the shot. Being able to stun the cue ball may be the most important part, other than hitting a narrow pocket. The stun makes the cue ball hop slightly to the side, thus avoiding following the object ball into the pocket. Being able to do all that on a straight in shot with the cue ball on the rail, plus being under match pressure is what made Keith such a devastating player. He never took the easy way out and always went for the right shot no matter how difficult it was. What was just as amazing is how he did it, almost like he was practicing and having a little fun with the shot. I think Keith really enjoyed most these moments where he could just let it all out and swing for the fences. I can't forget how he would laugh and make a little wisecrack after shooting a shot like this. Maybe something like, "That was harder than it looked," or better yet, he would glance at his opponent and say, "How'd you like it!"Transcribed by JAM.
Keith's words: It wasn't an easy shot. I sort of made it look easy than it really was. I had to hit the ball in the right-hand side of the pocket with top right, digging into the cueball a little bit, stunning the cueball, and force-following with the right-hand english. I was sort of lucky to get as much english on the ball as I did. Being on the rail and straight in is what makes the shot tough.
When you have slower cloth, it makes the shot a lot harder than when you have fast cloth. That shot is a little easier with bigger pockets, but those pockets weren't buckets. Me personally, I've played with both wood and carbon shafts, but all my cue-tip high spins and cutting balls when using the spin, I seem to do it a lot better with the wooden shafts than the carbon fiber shafts.
Hu, you nailed it with your last paragraph. To come with a shot like that at a critical point in a match is a rare skill, even among champion players. Keith probably did that better than anyone else I ever saw. There were other players who could make shots like this but could they do it under pressure, playing perhaps the greatest player of that generation, Jose Parica. I think not. Keith was never intimidated by anyone, and when he was on, he could beat the world! And the world all knew it too.Absolutely great to be talking about a shot and have the person weigh in that made the shot! Watching video things can seem far different than they were in the moment. I was watching some extreme cut shots in another match and thinking how much easier they looked when somebody else was making them!
Jennie, always great to see you posting and very nice to channel Keith in this thread. Keith, fantastic to have you posting with your own personal "word to text machine!"(grin)
That is the thing. Not too hard to make most shots after you are able to try it over and over and dope out how to make it work. Making it the first time for all of the marbles, that is a different story! My percentage should be pretty high on most any shot after fooling around with it ten minutes or so. One time, first time, with the game pressure and the eyes of the crowd and camera on you, that is a different story. We used to call it a hero move circle tracking. Making a high risk move with a big reward. If it works you look like a hero, if it doesn't work there is going to be a lot of bent steel and you will look like a moron!
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No not really ??Keith was a gunslinger big wins and big losses .. not like the nits you see today who always need a lockYou people get ass hurt to much. He didn’t say he could beat him he said he didn’t play smart lol I would have said he played to aggressive when he should play safe but that doesn’t mean I think I can beat him.
So what about MAX FOLLOW on shag carpet.Agree about pocket size of course, but I think soft tip and shag cloth made draw harder, not easier - soft tips transfer less power and shag cloth rubs off more CB backspin before hitting the OB.
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Follow’s different, alright. You can’t get overspin even on slick cloth, so I imagine it plays the same as shag.So what about MAX FOLLOW on shag carpet.
You think the same holds true?
Im thinking there's a difference.
Thanks for the link. I was there live and am in the video. Great memories.Thought the people might like this.
Was that next to the old Great Slates in Cambridge, MD?