Leather or Linen?
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MilwShooter said:
I've always played my best with a wrapless cue. I have tried linen wraps a handful of times over the years and they are too slick for me. I have a Tasc that will be delivered next week with a smooth leather wrap. I will report back with how I like the wrap.
Ian
wraps
I straddle the fence on the linen v. leather question. I have a leather-wrapped Allers and a linen-wrapped Jacoby.
I play equally poorly with either (sigh). I will say that I really don't notice the grip material when I'm playing well, stroking straight and gripping lightly.
At least three of the new Lucasi Hybrids have turned up in my little corner of the world (Skagit County WA). Two owners in my age cohort (midsixties), and one youngster (twenties). I have hit balls with all three of these, and tho the rubber grip is different feeling, it's not distracting.
These cues hit stiff like the Jacoby, but have small diameter butts like the Allers (sixty inch length).
Two of the Lucasi buyers have changed out the tips.
All three of these new Lucasi buyers regularly podium in our local tournaments, for what that's worth.
pete
I straddle the fence on the linen v. leather question. I have a leather-wrapped Allers and a linen-wrapped Jacoby.
I play equally poorly with either (sigh). I will say that I really don't notice the grip material when I'm playing well, stroking straight and gripping lightly.
At least three of the new Lucasi Hybrids have turned up in my little corner of the world (Skagit County WA). Two owners in my age cohort (midsixties), and one youngster (twenties). I have hit balls with all three of these, and tho the rubber grip is different feeling, it's not distracting.
These cues hit stiff like the Jacoby, but have small diameter butts like the Allers (sixty inch length).
Two of the Lucasi buyers have changed out the tips.
All three of these new Lucasi buyers regularly podium in our local tournaments, for what that's worth.
pete
Cuaba said:
Leather or exotic skins probably need to be applied with a different adhesive. Next time you order a cue tell the c/m your experience and see if he can come up with something. I have played with linen most of my life, but have switched to leather. Guess I wanted to try out some of the wraps I have been installing on customs. The geniune lizard and elephant ear are really rich looking. The pigskins feel good to the touch. The stacked wraps and corks all have a good feel. And of course the looks on a wrapless are only limited to the wood choice.
Another alternative -- rubber grip (tube)
Folks:
Just remembered that a past thread discussed installing a rubber grip (tube) on cues, just like the 3-cushion players commonly use.
(EDIT: rhyming wordplay unintended, but fun!)
Here's the thread:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=120319
See post #13 for a 3-part video that shows how to install it.
Rubber grips (tubes) are a good alternative, because they're not affected by sweat nor is traction lost by sweat.
They are inexpensive and can be obtained from a number of reputable pool/billiards supply houses, such as Mueller, Seyberts, and others:
http://poolndarts.com/index.cfm?CFID=15738002&CFTOKEN=74b5a5c4fabdbaad-391B7A93-D61C-4F06-B511FFFA48E4C73A&Fuseaction=Catalog.Product&productID=4965
http://seyberts.com/products/Rubber_Pool_Cue_Grip-142-0.html
Hope this is helpful!
-Sean
Folks:
Just remembered that a past thread discussed installing a rubber grip (tube) on cues, just like the 3-cushion players commonly use.
(EDIT: rhyming wordplay unintended, but fun!)
Here's the thread:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=120319
See post #13 for a 3-part video that shows how to install it.
Rubber grips (tubes) are a good alternative, because they're not affected by sweat nor is traction lost by sweat.
They are inexpensive and can be obtained from a number of reputable pool/billiards supply houses, such as Mueller, Seyberts, and others:
http://poolndarts.com/index.cfm?CFID=15738002&CFTOKEN=74b5a5c4fabdbaad-391B7A93-D61C-4F06-B511FFFA48E4C73A&Fuseaction=Catalog.Product&productID=4965
http://seyberts.com/products/Rubber_Pool_Cue_Grip-142-0.html
Hope this is helpful!
-Sean
sfleinen said:
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Durable...........
Very good advice for traveling with cues.:thumbup:Cuaba said:
Would Love To
I played with exotic wraps for years, and I always had problems. Here in the midwest it's cold & dry. I fly back & forth to SE Asia where it's hot & humid. And I break with my playing cue which puts a little extra torque on the wrap.
I had different cuemakers try different adhesives and finally gave up. I would love to find something that works because linen is a little boring on a $10K+ cue.
But it holds up, so that's what I'm stickin with for now.
Jack Madden said:
I played with exotic wraps for years, and I always had problems. Here in the midwest it's cold & dry. I fly back & forth to SE Asia where it's hot & humid. And I break with my playing cue which puts a little extra torque on the wrap.
I had different cuemakers try different adhesives and finally gave up. I would love to find something that works because linen is a little boring on a $10K+ cue.
But it holds up, so that's what I'm stickin with for now.
Cuaba said:
I'm in the midwest-ish as well. But I never really travel anywhere, other than out to Buffalo, NY. Considering how hot the summer can get (in Milwaukee...upper 90's?) should I even bother taking that into consideration?
anyone have a good link for how "stacked leather" is achieved? Starting to interest me a bit....
hate linen, leather is ok imo, wrapless is better than both
always thought suede would be good
however, the new sport type grips we're seeing now are by far the best, the evolution of our sport truly moves at snail's pace, we're finally taking a page from golf and all the millions that sport has spent on r&d as well as catching up to the carom guys who have been experimenting with hybrid type rubber wraps for decades
always thought suede would be good
however, the new sport type grips we're seeing now are by far the best, the evolution of our sport truly moves at snail's pace, we're finally taking a page from golf and all the millions that sport has spent on r&d as well as catching up to the carom guys who have been experimenting with hybrid type rubber wraps for decades
Wrapless... My hands are always dry and wrap less gives me the best feel of being connected to the cue. Low maintenance, looks great, costs less (sometimes) I do use a roll on rubber grip on my carom cue. This was suggested to me by Mazin Shooni, a national champion 3 cushion player. I still prefer my wrap less Ray Schuler without the rubber grip.
Jay
Jay
Sounds to me like a hybrid cue is the way to go. Or would I be better off just purchasing a roll-on wrap. (I'd feel so dirty putting that on at the pool hall, it just wouldn't look right). I have a viking 2x2 case, would my cue still fit inside if I rolled on a wrap over my linen wrap?
cork for me
Seneca Steve said:
Interesting statement. Maybe this is why so many people nowadays say that linen is too slippery/slick feeling? I've tried leather a couple of times, always went back to pressed Irish linen. Production cues and many custom cue makers today do not press their linen wraps. Linen not pressed has an entirely different feel. Palmer used to make a bunch of cues with nylon wraps and I couldn't stand them.
