I've set my snip at $10.00......................
Looking for Brazilain rosewood
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This is a huge red flag for me if you bought Brazilian Rosewood from him. It is illegal to ship the wood out of the country, and one of the reasons why I believe it is not Dalbergia Nigra.
I've emailed him several times with ?'s and have not gotten any responses I was happy with. No refunds...no guarantees...waxed wood...endless supply....has shipped many pieces over seas......if he was selling the real deal he would stand behind it till the end of time. He's an eBay shyster that is doing all he can to lead people to believe he is selling the real deal without saying it. Because if he doesn't admit it.......in his mind he is doing no wrong.
He quit answering any more questions I had for him.....great CS!
You be your own judge and jury.
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I understand your love for dalbergia nigra. Gorgeous wood. Here comes the however part. A full splice blank made from brazilian rosewood would IMO be naturally heavy. I understand that there are ways of achieving proper weight, and balance, with Braz. Rosewood, and with woods much heavier. I think you would have an easier time getting an acceptable finished product, if you chose East Indian Rosewood, or something along those lines. Definitely easier to locate, and much more cost effective. Again, just my opinion. Hope this helps.
I certainly mean no disrespect sir. I would never, and have never, said you were looking to take advantage of someone. I was "generically" expressing the fact that I understand this is a rare wood and can be pretty expensive. Based on the previous statements, I just didn't want to be offered (by anybody) BR that would be severely overpriced due to it's rarity. Everybody's definition of "reasonable" will vary from one individual to the next.
I can certainly understand that using this would may generate a $1000-$1500 cue sale. The intrinsic value of the wood, in raw form, is much greater to a cuemaker. Therefore, when I expressed "reasonable" I certainly was not expecting it to be misconstrued as "cheap" or a "great deal". I was merely requesting a cumakers assistance with obtaining a piece. If it was not feasible then so be it.
The title of this particular section of the forum is "Ask the cuemaker". That is why I proposed my question here and I came here only with the best of intents. I truly respect EVERY cuemaker within this forum and understand that you are reputable individuals pertaining to your craft and experiences. I'm not sure exactly what you meant when you said "somebody's got to say it" but I would have to infer it had a negative connotation in reference to my first post. Again, I reiterate that I believe I have been misconstrued and I apologize if I hadn't been clear.
Thank you to all who have responded with information both in posts and in pm's. This was a response to clarify my intent and amend my first post. There are no hard feelings what so ever so please do not consider this a slam of any kind. Thanks. Rob.
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No Hangem, it wasn't rosewood. I got a few pieces of ebony.
You are correct. Brunswick did this for over 100 years with no weight bolts. IMO, a BR into "quality" maple front will be a natural 16-18oz raw at finish size. The weight won't be exact because no piece will weigh the same. Like any other wood, it varies in weight.
Mason, thank you for the apology. I may owe you one back so I am sorry also. I do not like to post links to ebay due to harsh feelings as I have seen with other posters. If I had known it was anybody from the forum bidding on the piece I certainly would have refrained.
In one way there is positive to this situation. Now that I know it is you we can avoid a bidding war. I was going to put a snipe bid in within the last moments of the aution. We can now avoid that situation all together. I truly hope you win the bidding on the piece. I would certainly be willing to take a piece off your hands if you do win. Again, sorry for the links. I felt compelled to defend my position pertaining to price and felt those were excellent examples of "reasonable" pricing.
If the case was that using the BR would make it butt heavy, I have already spoken with a cuemaker about options for partially coring the butt end of a blank (with heavier woods such as Ebony) to obtain desired weight and balance properties.
I do thank you for your input. I originally was going to have prather use East Indian Rosewood, and might even still yet, if I can't obtain a piece of BR .
thanks and we have a deal,if i win you got a piece coming your way.
i think you are right on the reasonable pricing.good Brazilian really shouldn't cost an arm and a leg.i think $100 bd/ft is fair for the seller unless it is something spectacular.i have on occasion found very good Brazilain at the local Woodcrafter store,but it is always in 14" sizes so i can only use it for handles.
BRW on E-Bay
Looks like $100 for a 1.5" X 1.5" X 24" STICK, AFTER SHIPPING.
I think a stick that size is worth twice that if it is the real deal, and straight grained, not stump wood.
Looks like $100 for a 1.5" X 1.5" X 24" STICK, AFTER SHIPPING.
I think a stick that size is worth twice that if it is the real deal, and straight grained, not stump wood.
I've been monitoring this guy for a while. It seemed he had waaay to much BR to be the real deal. I'm glad I didn't jump.
I was considering making a post something like mason's - I realize I may have
come off as a bit flip in my response - and I did not think that your remark about
being taken advantage of was aimed specifically at me.
It was more trying to get across a point you just didn't seem willing to deal with.
You say you don't want to be offered wood that is severly
overpriced due to its rarity - Yet the price is exactly due to the rarity.
BR is not unlike ivory in that respect - when I first started whittling on
cues, you could buy ivory all day, any day, for $20 per pound.
Dick just told me he is getting some point stock from the most
reputable supplier - it is now priced $1 per gram, for all you non-Europeans
out there, that's a cool $454 per pound.
I understand that we all want what we want - but trying to
set a "reasonable" price based on the fleabay guy is a fantasy.
FWIW - hangem and esp MR Barenbrugge, have probably made more money
from Brazilian Rosewood cues than I will make from all cues for the rest of my life.
If neither of them will touch his stuff with a 10 foot break shaft,
there is probably a reason why.
Dale
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If you go the E Indian route...tell Jeff that Lisa said that you want the nicest, darkest piece of E Indian he's got in the appropriate length for that FS blank. It will have a slightly purpleish hue to it...that's the good stuff!
He so hooked me up with an amazing piece of tulip and BEM for the last blank he did for me...and that sucker was built TIGHT. I will be truly shocked if you are not just delighted with the quality of the blank...seriously. And the potential maker completing that blank will love you...LoL!
The next best rosewood alternative to Brazilian, IMHO, is the Bois de Rose...a sub-species of Madagascar rosewood. Very much like Tulipwood, it's takes a very long time to dry and cure properly...but if you have the patience...boy howdy! Downside to BdR, is finding a maker who will actually work with it....stuff bleeds like a stuck pig...and will stain everything around it if you do not know what you are doing. Stuff literally sings. I know that I will never part with my non-veneered BdR FS...ever.
I wish you all the best...this is part of the 'journey, have fun with it, and get what you want...just make sure that you know what you're getting.
Lisa
That piece on the left is EXACTLY what I would want.....
I just know you won't part with it. It's a very nice piece Joey. Thanks for the tease LOL.